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Episode 56 · 1 year ago

Black Fandom In Anime || Episode 56

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Its Black History Month and the team are celebrating with their first recording session in the studio! We discuss all things from Gaming and Anime news, to cultural difference between how people view anime.

On this episode:

@tudzdotexe @toomannyman @Estrella8_ @Chrinkster

So, hello and welcome back to another episode of was academia. You're joined today in the studio myself, to style, Chris and Manny. Yeah, hello, hey guys, very exciting. So at the time that you'll be watching this or listening to this, it will be black history month in the UK and we've been planning to be in the studio for a while. So what better occasion to kick that off, because your lovely faces. And Yeah, just before we get into it, we do, as always, have some recent news to get into. So first of all, who actually know who that is? But if it to ball, they're the ones that produced bud ETA, isn't it? Oh yeah, and mid mid Etail, beautiful gowns, if you missed little. I hope I'm saying it right. If it's a ball founder, hikaru Kondo admits to reading one hundred and thirty million yen in taxes. So the Animal Studios Founder, representative, representative, director and president admitted to the charge in the preliminary hearing, but it took your district court on Friday the seventeen of September. So what does that mean for in terms of yeah, possible sensences, but are we that's around what one million pounds are really. Yeah, just the woman just like million yen. I was like, okay, it's a large number, but how much is that? In sterling should like so much on the million pounds. As team I have no idea what it means for him in big, big trouble. Nigga going Jill, because like they like produce that really high quality like animals. Yeah, but I'm not being enemies, like notable from that studio or pop and Guadito, where that was like so highly anticipated. It look like at a really decent budget. Codat, it looked really like I had a budget and it looked great. It was very boring. Yeah, okay, so he he resigned from his role right step one. There's often here about consequences. Where's the steps where you put the IPHONE notes? Apology? Really do that INJOPAN TV public pologies and they have to bow and they bow. Yeah, about them more since cologetic they are. Yes, really, that's remember who the politician was. Remember from a while ago. I think there's actually like Um, when I took like a module for Japanese at Uni and the tutor was basically talking about like how like the customs and stuff. So there's a politician who got exposed for like basically misappropriating public funds. You a press conference and he was bowing in apology and people said that you to do it again because his bowers not deep enough really listen to you. Sounds Very Nigerian, but what if your back problems? That's the should have made a mistake. But yeah, so that's Efortable, I think. Yeah, good for him. I'm sure nobody cares about him. Yeah, so the verge tweeted and the ten of September Breaking Court issues permanent injunction in epic versus Apple Case. I don't know if anyone knew anything about epic. You know, I know quite a bit about it. They've been fighting essentially epic have been using around about way of allowing people to purchase services from them through apple but circumventing the APP store, meaning that they're getting none of the money from you know, and you know how big fortnight, for example, is, so from all of the business that they bring it in. And it's not just apple they're fighting. They also fighting Google and think there might be another store that they're fighting as well. But essentially, I'm not sure so it looks like there isn't really a proper resolution. I'm just looking at this. It says, in short, IOS APPs must be allowed to direct users to payment options beyond those offered by Apple. The injunction is schedule to take effect in ninety days, in December, unless it is and joined by a higher court. Yeah, so I guess in in short terms it could mean that they pull fortnight from the apple store. It's possibility. I don't think it's going to happen, but it is very possible because there's not much of benefit for them from a financial standpoint in having fortnight on on the apple. I've all you consistem yeah, I guess. I guess from like my sand points. I'm just finding out about it now. I guess the real consequences of that is in the domino effect. Yeah, they will take it to against Google...

...as well. And Yeah, HMM. And the final bit of news is tender director was yesterday. was yesterday. It was your said a Friday. It was yesterday, it feels right, yesterday, Saturday. That wasn't first. It is on first as those first or the director was on Thursday. So I actually missed it because, no, I'm back in the office four times. I got grandma bedtime scheduled out, but I woke up and our scenes between three by and that's a three like. May You guys just me? Okay, so I think the main takeaways I got from it where we've got a smashing house, the final smash Bros announcement, which is going to be a final, final ever for smash ultimate, which is on the fifth of October, I think. So they're going to show the final character and they're going to show how he, he or she plays or it plays, smash Bros. But yeah, people obviously trying to come to terms of who they think it might be. This predictions. You know, smash predictions have been happiness since the DAW enough time. I don't personally have any clue who it could be. I hope it's not Goku. I just I don't think they could. They could let down the public with Wiluigi. It has to be someone massive. I don't know. I could see it. They would you put flipping cloud and Separal the smash father. It's up. Yes, I think. I think it could be a Disney representative really, because I'm just thinking like it has to be something. It has to be something big. Who was the last DALC? You'll see you a lost character in the lost lost the last year. See character before this one, not in ultimate smash. was on the Wu was the last conacter? Was it one of the fire and blown characters? Was it? No, no, it was one of the funny ones, Robin. No, the other one. Oh, that transforms in to to an animal. The Dragon. Dragon is a norman. No, it's not. Robin Robins with the book, with the books and force file. Oh from mum, I didn't play that fandom. Yeah, I don't know. It might have been, but they're attacking the scenes, but I remember. No, wait, actually it was BAYONETTA. It was BAYONETTA. Yes, so Smash Smash Bros for we you and free Ds. I think the last character announces BAYONETTA. Okay, yeahs also be somebody on at that level. Will be bigger than that, because summer smash ultimate is a lot. is a much, much bigger game than Smash Bros for we you, ever, was okay and it never had this much in terms of fair party. I know because you know Nintendo kind of that they own platinum games. I think something something like that. Anyway, yeah, exactly. Yea back of Wolfe just been intended voice. But yeah, but, yeah, that's why Benet is like switch exclusive now. And so that one you could see coming, but with the recent ones, you could have told you that Steve from minecraft and being how was such a weird one. Yeah, I knew it's gonna Happen. Had to happen. Yeah, if you're pulling out the biggest mascots in gaming, minecraft is one of the biggest games around. I'm just a grandma. was kind. Yeah, I mean I have no idea about anything to do with my worlds. I just see. Yeah, minecraft, Steve. Do you know the math cost character had names for dinners as well, just blocks. Yeah, yeah, it has. It has to be something big. I'm just hoping it's not go cut. I don't want to see go cut. I don't I don't think why. I don't want to speak. Yeah, it has to be big. It has to be big. I think they kind of shut down the whole Goku thing anyway. But it has to be big and we just don't know how big is going to be because sepher off, come on, myselves, there's no animey coding. Smash it other not take well, well, no, no, flat out anime characters that start off as anime characters. Okay, yeah, it's it's meant to be a celebration of gaming. So, yeah, I don't know, maybe they'll put your garing me a moo in it. Yeah, but yeah, that was one thing. SPLITTUN three, he's not here. That were complete. That's the only pot because I missed...

...the direct because I was watching one piece food videos and then I see the good chat. I was Maddie, where are you, because we're still alive. So just rewinder the bottles. Betting three. Yeah, and always. There's nothing like major those happening. Just it's just one gameplay and one of the old maps from the first beuteen my regardless. Nintendo taking my money. No, it looks really good. Any does not anymore, not with the with the stuff I'm viying. See Money Manger, formally known as any money. All the money is going to mango. Yeah, I like the esthetic of petting three of those little good they're basically saying. I don't know if this is like a fan and or like a spect confirmed or implied. They said that the setting force between three. Is that a kind of like post apocalyptic? Yeah, return of the mammals. Yeah, I said, if in the final SPLATFEST, if all the had one, we might have gotten the more like futuristic kind of setting. But because chaos one, maybe this is why we have the same we have in no way. Yeah, so I didn't know. That's like Fan fan like theory. Surely that's gonna be found. But what was called? You can't build. You can't build a game based on the last flat first. Surely, I think, because it was it was a while ago. It wasn't. It was a while ago. So the would I had time to may not be done much of a change. You might just be more esthetics and anything else. So the timeline, where it's like they weren't of the chronology. When you're making the game right, the game's out there. Oh my gosh, chronology. Those talk to me about Zola Chronology. It was a weird there's that. There's different time lizes, timelines for if Gannon is successful, if Gannon is defeated, yea. If link dies at the end offortioning time, it's a different time. It's different timeline. He skins of different timeline. May if he goes back in time, is different time. I but if he stays is different this May, I think. I think the one thing that we know is that the earliest game is sky. Would sort that's that's the only thing that we bethod is the most recent. Breath words must like definitely whenever those everything else is VI. Okay, time is where it splits. Scours is the earliest brethis most recent. Anything else. Yeah, it's like and I guess the other thing, and touching on our creating the time, and sixty four online. Yeah, well, and sixty four nine on switch. You didn't see it. You see any of it? Oh my God, Oh my God. Well, okay. So now there's going to be an increased membership. All, sorry, not an addition money, but basically Nintendo have an additional membership option. I'm not sure what the price is currently, but if you pay for this, you sent, you get and sixty four games that you can play. I'm pretty sure they said that some of the classic titles with Multipler can be played online. So Games like Marykot sixty four. I know our careen of times there. I saw Majus masque. Yes, I'm Joel's mosque. I saw. I don't know if that's going to be that launch, but I did see it. And then they also announced Saya Genesis Online. What. Yes, so there's also a bunch of games that the we add into from the Genesis Library and to coincide with the launch of these, there's controllers as well. So you get a wireless sense people controller, okay, and a wireless say you justis control you can buy, obviously four hundred and fifty pounds, obviously for fifty pounds, but it is pretty cool, man, it's pretty cool. I want to controlers. You were saying for ages, like Oh, it doesn't intend. They like money. Why don't you just bring with the old games on to the new console? Someone's and yeah, I've been listening, man, of course. Yeah, I'm just hoping that most of these review makes a point. Well, yeah, because sometimes the ports are really like showy, Lazy. And what difference is that meant experience? The experience is different, like the frame rates can be a bit dodgy and but I mean, if it doesn't work out well, there's always alternatives. Yeah, call me Eric, Yea Eric, because I think, I don't I think it wasn't tender, but there was a game that was supported and then, like when some Mac fan developers like looked into like the code, they could see that was actually the same code as like an Emi mini version. That was super and to shut down. That was Super Mario Sixty four, on the say, fifth anniversary game, and it was quite it's quite a shutty poor. Well, yeah, quite, shoot. Yeah, you can get better experiences on with other methods. But Eric...

Information, yeah, it was anything else. By being kind of touched on that, which is really good. One of the few games that was announced in two thousand and seventeen we never got any information about. Hopefully, metroid we'll get some news. Man, I feel like I have to put metroid and FCO in the same I mean to be fair, to be fair to the METROID team. How, laboratories and things? How? How? Yeah, still, how do how do change? I don't know. Is How Labat? I don't know. But how, whoever they are that does the the prime series to be faster than they've been built out by METROID. Dread, which is out not? Is that the one that no one gets? Well, dread, what was a was a metro game that all gether o the M no, those one, those a nice one, and three. I goes two hundred and fifteen, two thousand and fifteen, a Samus returns thousand three ys could have been that one. I don't know this, I anyway, but yeah, judge it is the one that was had been. It was the one with the conspiracy series. Okay, people saw existed, people for it didn't exist. It was meant to come out on the Nintendo DS. So this is going back to that. Two Thousand and six these rumors have started from so for it to actually be coming out in a couple days time it's quite, quite a big deal. But yeah, I think also from Nintendo. He's just like after this with those. Are those a bunch of a bunch of the bunch of, you know, Nintendo Shovel. We're in there, as you'd expect. Chocobo, GP, Chocobo, Yep, chocolate were racing. Yes, Oh, I might be fair. Actually, Oh God, of course you are probably done with my background. That's like and they showed that project try, no, triangle strategy game, the one that looks like octopus traveler. I got the octopas traveler demo and I never played it. surprised. Yeah, shocking backlog anyway. Yeah, that's it. A intender anyway. Really excited we can have a whole podcast episode and Nintendo, anyone you know is for as we would be able to tell you another point the con book. Yeah, when bunny, when he goes back, and Nintendo, which trips, is complete. Okay, boys episode. But yes, as you will know well, by the time you watch this episode it will be black history month in the UK. So before as an it's a special episode. We're in the studio for the first time and we just want to visit, no, certain topics. Think last year for black history month, we spoke about our first encounters with black characters and anime and video games. So basically our first like chilhood experiences with like nerdy stuff and black characters in those mediums, and I just thought the conversation can just go in any direction by just will be interesting to talk about black people in anime fandom and like the things we create and the stuff we're doing and like our placing at the mainstream now and like just compare things now to how they were like when we were like in school and our childhood. A game too, certain anime and Manga and stuff like that. So yeah, I think we actually prompted me to think about this was like does an article I wrote for funimation about black history month and those around the time. Megan the stallion had that paper cover, think was paper magazine, where she was in the Todaroki Cosp and all the net bids came out in four force on twitter off because they were so irate that magaing would cause pay as total rookie, because you like anime, was gocise. Middle me literally could not believe that she would not only be into my heir academia but also like no dother rikiars, or that even being into anime period, like it was just, Oh, she's just faking it, which always used to boggle my mind, because if maybe wants to appeal to any group of men, why would it be like basement, I mean criminal spelling like anymy fans like smelling the Stadion, like what what proples is kind of like disbelief and certain people who don't fit like, I guess, the mainstream kind of like perception of a nerd. It just kind of can't believe that it could be intellect anime Mang or anything like we becose. I think there's more people are in general even just a side of animal gay keeping that people are unnecessarily over protective of the medium they enjoy, especially when you're in a space where you don't see people, other people doing the medium. For example, you might be really into, I don't know, football, for example, and you see people that are not necessarily within your core group of football fans enjoying football to certain degree, and somebody,...

...and somebody outside of that group, comes out says, or I really enjoy football. To them they can't fathom the fact that our individuals that are not within that group enjoy their medim as much as them, and then that's what they're necessarily unnecessary level of gatekeeping comes in. Well, I believe that that's what I see a lot, is when you see somebody that's not like you or let enjoy the things that you like, comes out and says they enjoy it. Yeah, it's just weird, essentially, to at the bottom of it, especially if there's something that you enjoy, you should be happy that other people are enjoying it to you, instead of coming out to question them that get to know exactly what the like, so then you might be able to be brought into new things. For example, like me, I enjoy Manga Animy, obviously, but it's obviously sections in general demographics of Mangan and made that having really consumed or interacted with and is a bunch of people that may not necessarily look at me that enjoy Manga Animi enjoy different aspects of it and it's nice to get to know their understanding Danenjoyment of these different aspects of Manga enemy, just so I can get about understanding and perhaps enjoy those expects to you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think. Well, I think what makes it weird for me as well. I think we can all relate because, like a lot of US started watching anime or your mango from like younger age and it was never like a thing. Know, we're growing up, so getting older and being more like online and like like officer, fandoms appear online and we find out that actually gatekeeping, like when I think there's a time that gate can means always been around, but it was wasn't for a long time, at least in my experience that I did. It was like a word for it, just we are people would be like really protective and like the things that they enjoy. I think that was a real to me because growing up, everyone around me was into the thing. We don't read and go watch animes just fine. Yeah, well, happened to be black because of the proximity and stuff. So it realizes, until I've got more online and go a bit older, that like there's like an mainstream like image of what like an anime fan is, and it's like usually a white dude. Is that antisocial and making longer into that? So obviously, yeah, I think it's cool to see like there's like content creators within like any end of your work, putting our work. They're like we spoke about o DC world. Yeah, and people like all these people making a course stuff. Who's the guy that did them? What's his name? Caleb City, yeah, King Vada, or usually cooking for and then they getting like recognition from companies that country roll if annimation, yes, were cool. Yeah, I think there's. I think it will boils down to people wanting a sense of belonging. A lot of people they want to be part of a group and they want to feel that group is exclusive and it takes a lot of effort to to try and get into that group or or you can't get him at all, essentially. So a lot of people will find something, will find something very, very niche and, you know, ride it to the to the heavens as soon as it gets a bit more popularity. And it's so funny because a lot of these same people are clamoring for these things to be more popular. They want more events, they want more content. So in order to do that you're going to have to get a wider audience. But as soon as I get the audience, they start judging the audience and this start testing your audience and they make people feel they make people associate like, for example, anime. People Associate anime with the neck birds, with the glasses who, you know, don't shower for six months. Okay, because these are the guys, the showered elks, and want to do the show with the dogs, because these are the people that are speaking up and, you know, standing up and trying to be the front runners for for anime and Manga, when in reality, most of us just enjoy the content, want to see more of it and want to share it with with others. So that's one positive to any becoming more mainstream. Now, I think, I guess to us I'd be like yeah, animes mainstream now, but I think generally is still kind of a niche interest, but is become more mainstream. And obviously a positive to that is it's so easy to watch anime now. The young guns nowadays don't have to go on Youtube and watch some legally fan something in part one, part two, part and then pastories. Put the reason Espaniel and you find the last part in its just an MV. Is Not Natural. I'm it. have to struggle like needed. So that's the one positive to a may become a mainstream. But also, like I used to always talk about, like how we need to celebrate Black Majocity, you know, everything like excellences, to talk about like think...

...like anyway, like this might be controversial. I don't know, anime like a HMM, neo, neo yokio, MMM, near, is that what it's called? Prose near Yokio is a the one that I yea made new Yorkio. Like I peted. It was fine. They had to funny moments. I was like a lot. Did your store? Has any watched the whole thing? I was just wasn't interested. But it's like I still have to really like celebrate this, that the fact it exists, because it's like yeah, we should be able to just like he's. I'm gonna just put out the fact that we can, the fact that we can have mediocre, literally content. They have to set a hit, like like jiggers miss like yeah, I'm a blood dog into anime. I'm going to make an anime with a black protagonist. Hope it's going to go on Netflix. Yeah, that's a big deal. Push this way. Like, think about logically, how many pen name apart from that anime with, you know, black, black characters predominantly featured in the series. That are bad, that are bad. Yeah, sounds what's the AF for somewhere? But that is like the go yeah, that that are bad. You'd struggle because it wouldn't get that for if, for example, you had a black writer O or you know, or black characters. The show has to be very, very good in its own right. You're not going to be able to market something that's mediocre. You can, you can name billions of different mediocre anime with, you know, Europeans in it, with you know, Asians in it, but as soon as a black people involved, it needs it needs to be exceptional before it can a cells as well, which is why I was like everyone's talking about our can believe what the Shawan Thomas did with the asking where you go in that direction. I was like you, he's even needs to just stay on code. Before they didn't give him a budget for the next thing you want to make. Lank, keep on making it doesn't it doesn't have to be perfect, like feet that he's managed to do. This doesn't have to be perfect. Just thinking about since we're talking about like how the black people are involved, as all that's to always be good and like our live action anime is just like it's very hit or miss, Mrs more than the hits, but it's like the one piece live action and the lead writer is a black guy. Did you see that? What are your thoughts? One piece, like one piece of live action together, is not something I will even give us. So scary I won even let me just keep my positive memories of one piece to just the book and anime. M I just don't want to see anime. I think remember we talked about this in a podocolor cost episode when they use jobbed. I just don't want anything to just tarnish my memory one piece. One piece has been going for like years perfectly, and you know, it's all about making money. This and just we know that they'll produce producers and whichever who went for which other studios which see opportunity to make money and they don't some, most cases, they don't reallystly necessary take the level of care that is needed to produce a work like one piece. There's other accounts of examples of where will we've seen those, Mrs so one like that, I would not be watching that and Amna, I you know how absolutely actually, I hope there's going to do well, like I think that other older obviously cares a lot about one piece and he's very careful because to you, how is that out into the world? So we've never had a live action of one piece before and the fact that because obviously order had to sign off of it, sign off on it and the right of the live action one piece, as obviously had contact with order, had conversation with order, and order felt comfortable enough to let him do it because he probably has faith that will be a good adaptation the right of one of the one piece live action. He's very wreck on hest was doing and I just memories that Shit, that that taste. I don't know what's going on. That's money speaking. No, Engliss. Yeah, he's a big fact, is a big one piece. Fine, and I actually Jennerally, do you have hope that? And you need to remember this isn't live action from ten, fifteen, twenty years ago. This is this isn't a film either. It's a series. A few years a series. So I feel like you got a lot no punts intender. You would stretch it a bit more. becards to you. The money of a question for you actually. Yeah, would you rather this one piece live action series be directed by a one piece fan who is a mediocre director, or director who does not care or even hates one piece? But is this hate top of the notch, top notch director? What would you prefer? I think I preferred the New Yorker One,...

...only because I don't think we'll let you full talking about countries, okay, okay. Only reason is because, like I feel like we one piece is very rich in regards to content, even even things that happen, like, as we know, there's a lot for shad doing. There's a lot of things that the community talk about regards one piece. I don't think somebody that isn't doesn't watch or read one piece like that or doesn't understand one piece or isn't in the community will ever be able to get one piece right in the live action. There's too many things that happened for you to hit the right sport. How I've got a slight argument for that. And the thing with a live action adaptation is that it's an adaptation. So it's going to be the director's view of all of you know, version of events, maybe taken from more influence from from one piece. Yeah, I think the priority has to be entertainment. Okay, it needs to be entertainment. Otherwise what happens is that you can get a mediocre series that's filled with fan service, and I don't think that would do much good in the ground scheme of things. Obviously, one piece fans might be like, Oh, yeah, there's the so, yeah, they remember this, so they put this drop, this Easter Egg or I wonder if this is cannon. But for everyone else that sees it snow inch other you have to remember this is going to be a lot of people's introduction into the one piece series. Yeah, so if it's not entertaining, I don't know. But then even if it is introduction, wouldn't necessarily be true to one piece. Series is of so it could be the introduction of them when they got off to you watch the animey or be the mango. It's not necessarily represented representative based on the TV series. Yeah, I guess it's not representative, but I guess the way you look at it is that the series is good and the anime and Manga is also good but different. Okay, so it depends if they may like it they may not. But I think if it's a good if it's a good show, gives people more of an incentive to give the anime mango chance. But what if the really good producer, M and T COLING SORROWS ALOW? Why would you that? That's the English Leek. is its allot as a series stuff. That was that was foul. The rubber and knife. Oh No, if you guys ever see the for kids transolution for one piece, it is ridiculous. Yeah, I just said that because everyone is about my one. Please journey and marine food very slowly because I know what's coming next. Would you just cool it food? I've seen peoples. It doesn't it's marine forward. Is it marine forward? I see. I've seen people in Moringfood. I've seen, Marie, because I'm English. Sorry, you watch say that, because I know I said that's what I just couldn't it. I didn't say that. Start forward, start forward. For you, you would say fool. Didn't you fold motors? Location were so blow right now I can still see the evil moving forward. Yes, I don't know. I've always heard it for us, as Marie, because I say like he said, Stratford food. No, I've I've seen that. Quite a lot of people say wren food, Britain, sprit so Americans. I don't think America. Bull so not Americans, Australians, Stra okay, that's SIM events. How as, how people here say why are you? I prefer. When I was a kid I said why you is right. I know, I know right. Use Wrong and I still say it now sometimes. Yeah, I see you now that I know becaus. I can't belief that we're in reference with character street five shop. You know. Why? Are you right? You must really yeah, see your because it starts cultures. It's a proper English thing to say where are you? Settings? Yes, basically saying you...

...talk, but the fuck is dub. Yeah, I need when I eventually catch up to one piece, I have to go back to the beginning because I watched the Fokis dub casting network. Is How long I've been watching want peace for by the way, I watched the Fuking Stub boncarting network. That's why I started. It's up until the beginning of Alabaster. So when I picked up again, I uni. I switched the Japanese Dub. Japanese, Japanese subversion. Sorry, but then I'm here with these things about the Fuk is dub and I think money and Jerry were like know, you had to get back and watch it properly. The focus that doesn't got I mean asked how much they just took out. HMM, it's like a whole, like I think it was basically almost an entire arc because it just couldn't figure out a way to make it like little. God. I started again, I said again, and I remember I used to think one piece was because I still watching when I was in primary, all primary, primary school, Early Secondary School, and I thought it was a fun show. You know, back then anime would come for like a season or two, yeah, disappear. You'd never hear from it again. Something you would turn up, and one piece was one of those where I remember seeing about two seasons worth of episodes. Then I remember getting a bit older, college, Late Secondary School, College, people just telling me read one piece, read one piece. I was God, you know what, I'm going to watch it, and I ended up binging like hundred and fifty episodes in like two weeks or something. Was Crazy. Yeah, yeah, different school, because that was only two. I could bins that I'm up like during light summer holiday and that stuff. You just every day to like shift. Yeah, I give anything to be that jobless an. My first binge in like years yesterday. Told me, told me it was on. It wasn't worth it. I'm no, it was not. It wasn't worth it wasn't even anime. Wasn't sweet. There was it. No, it was. We'll see other on click bait. I told you, who's I tell it was rubbish? Was Not Mary, not someone here, but I click break. Was No right wish. It just wasn't. It wasn't worth the twitter height that it wasn't cooking. It wasn't. It wasn't. I knew you was gonna say it. Gave it away. From me that I was going to be that great. Everyone kept to talking about how shocking the dress were, also about how good it was, just how she's just a Christ where had this were good, mostly invincing yourself. No, no, they were. They were okay. Did you know what was gonna Happen at the end? I didn't know it was gonna be the person. I'm trying to spoil it. Really I knew. I didn't expect it to be the person who turned out to be, but I already knew that the husband was innocent the whole time, from the beginning. So not sp' not me saying were you was innocent? Off, yeah, but no, but when you watch you, you know your kids of something, even your cut. I just it was anyway, I just get it. It was a bit predictable, apart from the end, the very end. Yeah, well, to the end of it anyway. Any forget about La stuff. I losh pressured into reading one piece in college. Was it by black people? I'm trying to bring it back to the present. I um look where the major tech when you, like, when you were in college reading, I had a world like your. Was You like your friendship group? Isn't miss that. Guys. I had one of those, you know group. You know one of those. You know, one of those like CBBC groups, the pepper one in the team, my love Tweens, Mylon Milos, my smile is Bradley's Club Shit. Definitely drunk, apparently, my Lord, they even friendly. That's club seven and then he brad the is. Yes, now that he said Club. Oh, yes, that's the only black guy. Yeah, well, start for black. What's his name again? Was it anthony or something? And it is Anthony. So I don't want to score pieces a white guys as les. No sign those, late Simon, we were starved like redis my hero, because who did we have? Was Angelica Bell? Mr Dynamite? The more JE the more? Was That The Guardian? One of the Crane Rosnan? He's...

...but it did have for African News. Not. Yeah, I'm pretty sure any black person back down in TV was most last recently. Actually, I don't know why this is shocking to me, but it doesn't have braids anymore. Lamar, Lamar, he's never African. Was Nigerian. Yeah, he's like, yeah, yeah, but yeah, that's the Christians asking you, like, what's your group? Yeah, in your Internet. So I had a like guys, I had a CBBC group. It was like one black guy, knows that, two black guys, two Asian guys, a white guy and Max face guy, Chinese guy. Like literally it was properly like CBC, like the chip, every single minority. And at a time it didn't we it didn't register. was like that. Obviously I have friends ID anime, friends from all sorts, but those are the guys I was tolding to about animal all time and talking to about gaming all time, because obviously the to go together quite well. So, yeah, it was for me, it was from from everyone. Really got really bring race into that way. Yeah, because I think it just gets back to the whole thing like, Oh yeah, being black into anime. If you are someone who is, I guess, younger than us, who's like online, it might seem like it's like a newish kind of phenomenon, but I think in reality is on the case. So much of black I don't know a single black person if you do not into anime and any capaccy now you didn't watch drug and bull zy coughing, was single one, even like my most like girly girly friends like you like have a clue. You will grow up watching that together. You know. So, I guess to me that's why the gate keeping is even more strange. So we will, like anime is just a medium of entertainment. The only reason that you have anime fans is because the type of shows that if produce usually are synonymous of anime. So, like you're not going to see a live action version of Dragon Ball Z on a regular basis. Did that done? That actually did really well in Asia. It did really well drag way, like Japan, China? I don't will, but it's Junger Bulls in the day. There's probably they probably hated it. So even if it was crap, they still would have gone. Also, the one piece live action does matter. What's gonna be good. We're gonna say it's good. We're going to say everyone's stay, especially like everybody back. Yeah, the guy, like, because I saw it and like I was a bit nervous. I thought I was a movie. So still kind of like, okay, I slowly. Guy was like a one piece fan on know. So he was black and it's also like his on the IMDB page. He's written for like other like popular shows. Those one short day he wrote forly cage. Yeah, that's fair. I remember you told me I should they watching it, she said, she told us before. Problem when you have because that's why that gives him some credibility, right, and I'm all right. I ended badly, okay, just wasn't snow badly in him is badly. It just seem good, man. It's awful black guy, but basically like a dad and obviously cringe, he's a grown ass man, Dada, but it's not gonna go hen, you guys are done. And it was like one of those what are those dabs where he was talking, broke the photo under four four and then he goes, sorry, God may your grown ass man, because that's a good fun to got me so gays. Oh yeah, I should watching the cage is basically the main antagonist. He's in like he's like office, I guess. And as he commenters the frame, like before he enters the frame there's a portrait of biggie that biggs put it with the crown. Yeah, okay, the frame and he's had. He's the best thing. He was the only good thing face. He's going to be in the Cowboy Bebo plight action as well. Yeah, Oh, that reason is he is gonna be a couple people as a really powerful sunding named, I know, some thing Eliss M. Yeah, yes, something mussure. No, no, yeah, I'm not going to try to pronounce so hard. Yes, I'll singer somebody else. Don Somebody else's not. He's yeah, he's a mean I'm the guy's gonna in the CBO nesually. We're being racist or someone hairs what? Definitely, because he was indicator. He guy was a Messi. Yeah, okay, on black history, mom this is a terrible example to set out. Absolutely would not.

They're gonna be like, if you guys don't know, was he not in your cage? Let see if he wasn't. Your kid is not the person. Yeah, because that's that's the MEMEL. Guys, another death. Yeah, I don't know if it was in your kids. You know, but he's definitely the posishmaster. Okay, but he's not the person he was talking about. He wasn't the one in that scene. No, he wasn't. Money. He serious? Is what the drink? Oh, yeah, sick Keto, Wiley, quick, David so soc on the crew look better party. That's cute. When did you realize that one piece was your favorite show money is the one piece happ in it like back we can. We can use this segments, one piece of end it with Jim Bay. We we could do the one piece over time. He's a freakinking one piece stuff all over time. It's but what not? When did you realize that it was your favorite, my favorite? At will point and I think I would say what a seven, it was my favorite, like I loved it from from all on Park, from Nami see helped me. I love it from dead. But when he actually became my favorite, it was probably what seven probably did that. Of I can't light if you haven't seen what seven nice. There's nice for. Is it any of yea, the death going Mary. But I was like, oh, that was sad and never thought I could sad for a bunch of water, the girl Mary, because that's only he's annoyed me so much. On Zoro told him about himself. I was like, yeah, kin we, yes, I could rein himself and bus like so's second my right. When if he's punched him, my pous so happy like you. If he's actually probably serious. Yes, it's because like how how can he? This is spectral captain what's the point having it? We're gonna be like, although he's Ye, could remember when I first remember what I woking. I'm doing a one piece, we weed and I'm coldly on volume forty three, which is in the middle of what seven some, right up the part where I believe it took F if you volunteer out to that point, proas absolutely brilliant. You. So gets rubbed if he goes back to the Frenchie House and take the money back. I was just about to get being up if I'm going to get that scene of the guys walking to the Frankie House. And Yeah, any kid, the song was called again. Come on, here's the song on one piece that you absolutely love. Oh overtaking, Yea d ever. So I'm gonna play that. We're gonna get a copywriting. I'm gonna play that when I get to those panels on you is not sound like I done the same thing when we are al on Park and Zoro. You SAUP Lufy and Sangi will work walking to towards along park after the Nami. Help me see, I was played it, because the same vibe. How can you not play it? Is Exact. No more. He's looking for the for the suspect, because I am I can accept that. Havn't said that the like. This is your remit. I'm sure if Chris Suction is talking, if you took about other episode, he's gonna in general, been tender boys from it. So everyone ever has their thing. This doesn't look ten years old by magazines and just to you reading, tend the stuff and you'll selling random guys in the post coins, hey stuff. That's it. Then the whole story. Take a one se a Cao episode. It was but we find it, will link. It was. It was them Mos. Yeah, that's fun. Oh and Oh, Christy Sun a little blog for Nintendo stuff, because he's the right. Because what's so funny? I remember thinking, why did I stop writing? Can Imagine? Listen, I was. I was thinking about it and I actually remember why I stopped writing, and that was because my keyboard on my laptop broke. No, no, seriously, that was why. And all it takes is for you to not write one or not finish one thing. Three...

...yeares go far. How many? How many things have we written? When he's is Chris has been like retired a few he said, we yeah right. Bear in anyway, I wrote a squid game review, but what's get giving? I'm writing tonight, but when you're doing the king that blog, things like, okay, when the time we had only blog for Nintendo. HMM, could you like wait, how would do you? First of all, that was it must have been about two thousand and four or two thousand and five. You've been like eleven, so I was like twelve, or like eleven twelve. Yeah, could you see many other like people like blog? Did you follow any other blogs or you just writing to get out there? I mean, the only things I was actually because there wasn't that many gaming blogs back then. I know the main, the big two were ign and game spot. I'm not sure Kataki was about. It just started what one of the two? Those game trailers. And then there was the Nintendo Fisher magazine forums. I used to go on and they used to post that new stuff and all of that, but there wasn't really much in terms of yeah, that wasn't really that much like compared to now. Now there's outlets everywhere. Yeah, I think there was, like there's that one up. It's like there's a couple here and there, but nothing, nothing major. Let me think because like when we were talking about like Oh yeah, black and you Ma Piers or people, imagine putting up stuff or the names you've talked about, we're like American, like like American, but know that actually that's a good point UK as well. Like I guess it feels kind of like obviously we've always weas had like a like me to hear was into that stuff, but feel like in terms of putting things out, there still kind of a newish thing a UK for black anime fans. Ok, you just channels and logs or like mining stuff. So has there been like a prominent figure in anime in this country that's black? I can't think of a single person. Yeah, because I can't Secause I can love names if we're talking about like black, like have to be so like cleaning people like in America and stuff, but in terms of like hey, British, not really love a single person, because usually you can kind of pimpoint either group or that, for as academia, for it, for everything. But yeah, no, I can't record really think of it and I'm not sure why there is. Obviously we're smaller, smaller population. Things here are very, very niche and because I I think because of the fact that everything's a lot more we're closer terms of the Internet, kind of destrained barriers between hair and other western countries. But I don't know, I don't see why. I have a feeling if we were like in France, they must be, because I think they're the biggest consumers that anime outside of a sort of on they in the West. So if I can fast they would be owner. Well, it is actually usually. Usually I find it's to deal with the fact that it's televised more frequently. Okay, but it wouldn't make sense for, for example, a French dub to be televised more, for French dubs to be televised more frequently than English stub, especially when English stubs would cover both the UK us and most countries in Europe. Anyway, interesting reason for it because, yeah, I'm trying to think and but I know when I was younger, I just like the unifrances which on the TV like from like maybe six am till night, and they'd be a Mangar on and e specific channels. Was it was it? Is it in French Yep with their DUB's, the different Switzer and there's the quite a bit of enemy, because we still get even voice actors. I kind of take the original and it is just did just turn it and they just prep it and then I think a lot of those people probably just grew out with that and it's probably I wanted to learn a bit more about what it is a case because Chris, which about a reason to say that if you created an English one, you're covering so many different regions. But from just a tiny I think it is comes down to the students in France, commission in anime to be more rights to enemy, because even with the with the one piece of the only reason for kids were apparently the reason why folk it's had to send so so much, because door buy an Animey in both that actually knowing what the different enemy could because content was...

...so when they had one piece, they realize that one piece as it is may not be for the target audience. So they had to sense of quite a lot of stuff. Maybe in France they were happy to just need as it. So, yeah, auto buy more anime than then the American counterbox. No, that's a that's a big thing. That could probably that's probably the biggest. That's that. That's actually major. You think better said that. But the first time I was in Nigeria and like only like a very, very, very, very surface level, one standing of French, I was like seven years old. I remember stayed in my Auntie's house and we just got back from the airport. So you're just trying to let you know, settle down. The TV was on, just a random station. is obviously a children's channel because of like the commercials that were playing, and there was an anime and it always stuck with me and I's what, when I got older, find out what animal that was. As turns out, it was a ring men, ring man, I am the same. I forgot his name, the Manaka that made devil man. Okay, yeah, yeah, guys, I think I think so. Yeah, so its ring one. But yeah, for years I didn't know which any was. Like we was that and and I was playing. But yeah, it's a very it's a bit. It's a bit, not Raunchy, but it's a bit like, you know, suggestive and stuff, like the female characters like that, her superpower, she's like where she transformed, she's like halfnkid and stuff like that. was playing like a like a children's channel and stuff. So I'm just wondering that it's actually probably could be a very influential reason why it makes some yeah, let's marry broadcasting. If you haven't got a censer, then you take away a lot of efforts. In America they have to go, has to go for these stages to make sure you actually it's not it's suitable for children. But maybe in France are just like yes, and it's a Cardia. Yeah, I guess there has to be a cultural element to it. I it's anyway. It must be that it's more it's more accepted in France and is maybe over here. Why that is, I don't know. We're very art. It's probably comes to like people from maybe our age and a bit older again, grew up with uncertained enemy and when you're older than more you want to consume it. So you got out of there. Spend money on it. If it is becomes a thing of supply and demand. But, for example, we don't like fronts get Manga translated quicker than you do. Like even things like kingdom. We have this no English. There's no English translation, faking the official there's French ones. H You men, official translation, official translation. There's not a mangel books in it yet there's no kingdom official translations, but that are doubt for French, even the one piece mangle books, and pretty sure they come out friendily, in front, in front in French. Sorry, quick cut, then it does in English, because we won't get like, for example, volume one hundred of one piece God released a few weeks ago. We won't get that in English until early next year at the earliest. I think one precial fronts probably get it towards the end of the year. I'm actually just thought something because front, so you know, the biggest consumers of anime, or second biggest outside because the bigger than the US. They did. They buy Manga much more the black anger my go so I'm seeing that translating enemy to you even to get to that extent. I think a good point that just ends off what money were saying is that it could be because of the fact that they buy more official much. That's a very good and watch stuff through the appropriate channels. YEA, in comparison to ask guys over here who are using Mat's like Eric and using don't you feed, that comes from the fact that it's just more readily available for them because there's more of an interest in France versus them. The interest in England interest dummed up by the fact that does that's barriers to there is that. But you have to remember as well the the US is very, very big place, right. Yeah, so you and you have loads of people in the US dedicated to translations soon as possible. Not only the US very big, but it has a very, very large Japanese population there as well the Japanese American population there. So translations are done very quickly and on the fly and usually done unofficially. So there isn't going to be a need, whereas in France, I doubt that's going to be the same thing. You're not going to have nearly as big of a Japanese French population in France. Yeah, meaning that unofficial translations will be a lot harder to obtain. And then for you know, the Niche anime, the niche manger that maybe not be as pot that, maybe they're not as popular, they're not one piece on the rout or whatever. It would take a very, very long time for those things to be translated unofficially. Yeah, to the point where it might actually be easier to just wait for an official translation and by official Manga or, you know, watch it through the appropriate means online.

But I don't know what one thing I will say about that is, even though this is a very abstract way of measuring it, that, for example, TCB is a translate, translating website. The translates one piece, just the guys on so awful, but mainly one piece. That's what that's where most people go to read one piece. Go to TCB. There following is nowhere near as big as the translators for the French version. Is that? Probably that ten times that the number of follows have. So I don't know if that necessarily translate into the different different cultures in regards to French speaking countries and how they consume Manga and anime versus Englishman country and I consume Manga enemy, but just based on the attack, like the following is completely different. I guess that would be based on one piece itself. Yeah, more so them than Manga and Ljour and animay generally, because obviously we know that one piece is massive in France and I think stemming stemming off that, like you said, another French speaking countries, it probably has a report effect as well. Yeah, thats what you mean about much we think of them. Japan exper in Paris of year, right. It's the largest pop largest convention of Japanese pop culture outside of Japan in the world. Even anything in the US is the biggest. And those of one calcles coming, I think Chin Chinero. What an Abbey was there a few years ago. You had here a mash more there. They had dam the director from Evangelian. He was there one years to always get a big names as well. They go to Paris from this exhibition that's in France. So I think. Yeah, I think they just having they spend more money. Yeah, we do on them. Yeah, a match, we good nothing. We're crooks in this country. Ye, any black anime podcasts connect with us. We want to the secrets. You need the plug. Yeah, yeah, what is your I was actually just going to talk about think the last point has about like how does it feel to know that do are so many other like black animy fans just spitting stuff? Like how the Internet facilitated that and just like the rays were, like the bands and stuff, and like how how does it feel to just be able to like, you know, you just go on twitter, instagram, willed whatever and there's like fellow black animy fans analyzing chapters and discussing theories or putting out content and potcasts. How does it make you feel like this ended that because minutes talking about talk about friends and how good for us as we sound, I hate is that's bringing back a good channel. One good thing that because I'll be honest, for me I've so I can't speak on a personal level on this because I've always been surrounded by black people who are into anime, who in Tavanga. However, what I have seen is black people who may be in it, especially in the UK, who may live in areas where there's not many black people around and the few black people that they interact with are not into this stuff and they can often be seen as weird or odd by the community. The black community can often be very judgment yeah, oh here, but let's were like black people. Imagine, imagine being in Nigeria, Hey, for example, right, and be anime Frim, and it's just you and your cousins living in like a certain area and you're there watching tinging, topping, greing like on, and they like, what the fuck is this? Easther time now maybe actually, I don't. Yeah, I think the time now, but I think back. Daniel, definitely like what your Agel statching Guarti sick. Are you okay? So it's nice to see that there's there's prominent figures in there where black people can, on an individual basis, relate with someone that they see online who's also into this. You know, get theories of someone who's black, reactions from black from black creators, content creators, all sorts, recommendations from black content creators. So I think all that sort is good, where before there wasn't really like that. I'm sorry, the black guys that were putting out content before very, very sc they were scary, es scary. I don't thing like him. I was thinking of a specific person. I just thought I like him. Yeah, but you look like he doesn't. Wait,...

I don't want to say say because yeah, yeah, of course, Oh, we love like, oh, the thinking of him. You know, what's the name? Forever for something good? One evil world or black in him. Please don't forever world. Yeah, he's not black, American. It's Mexican. America. Looks like it doesn't shower at all. No Way, he's a modern basement. Whether modern night's got the whole up. Everything doesn't need to leave. So outside modern. He's a say modern because he probably gets paid for it now. No, I'm sorry, I'm thinking of them. K. Well, that we love. He gets how he's. Yeah, he's like. I like him, even though he's a very detaining but yeah, is a mom. He's so funny. Yeah, so funny. I've ever seen him cry come away was appeah. Yeah, on camera. took quite quite recity over mirror. Yeah, to be honest, I would cry as well. Yeah, and then he also remember. I remember the time I became like a probe big fan of him. Was it was a fairy tale because he used to review that face. And the funny thing is, yeah, part of the reason why I stuck with fairytales because I used to see him review the Manga chapters. Okay, so I thinking these are you Manga chapters. It can't be that bad, and I was just getting I've got to like, I think I've said there so many times. I got to episode hundred and five and I was like, what is this? This is a joke. What am I watching this? Does it actually get better than this? And then King of lanning put our video saying I can't read this shit. He said. I've done fairy toes on things like it's special place in my heart, but I can't defend it against any stand up because it just wasn't like great. I skipped into a skip like two or three odds when I knew I was running up and then checked in to see what's happening towards yeah, that's what they could do and lady was cannon and that's all they mightted. Funny. The funniest thing is I remember reading it. I know that there was a there was a fellow episode with Rave Master. Yeah, I reman and that's when I realized that he wrote. He wrote both Rave Master and fairy tale. Oh and I love rave master right. I've not watched it back since and I'm going to keep it that way. I will I refuse to look at anything to do with most the horror glory. I used to love that guy. Literally, when I was in primary school, he's to go mantle. Nobody knew him except for me. I said pride in it, like Harry Glory, Harry Glory. They took off TV as like I can't wait till it comes back, and never came back for good reason and they just begging. I looked it up. I looked it up to see how it ended. Well, I'm reading most yeah, well, good, counseled in it. I've got canceled the mango an tol Dan. Well in Japan. Well, good, in England. I Oh, yeah, yeah, what does that? When it came out? What happened? All I remembers that are in any good together, and that's what I cared about. It's in. You would think her name was actually a code three, three seven seven, series seven seven, God shit. But yeah, King of lightning. We love him and look. Yeah, so that's like a creator. That to he had the positive impact on you. Well, I did an impact. He made you g go with Avery Jor when you would drop pssive if he was that entertaining, so entertaining Manga says. That's the kind of things that I want. It's the funniest thing is yeah, I remember my friend used to watch him. He used to watch him after every single chapter of one piece that you read. Right, I would just read a chapter and I'll just go on my life. I didn't really have anyone to speak about it with at the time because I didn't really know anyone who's reading one piece Manga. This was probably just before I started, you know, being a bit more conversational on twitter. Baic see and which king of lightnings videos, and I say to him, why are you watching this, your widow, like, what are you be watching another man's reactions as a man, say, this fat guy talking about how old is the goal, and you're just sitting there watching it. And you watch it every single day, like you watch a new video his every single day. And then, God, you get roped into it. And then I remember Typhon it in myself. And then I remember one time, I'll never get this, I was watching one of his videos and my friend was...

...coming on the screen. I couldn't let him know that I was watching it. But me at money and Jerry, I was like you meet these man watched? Hey, not mark, they watch. WHO's the other guy? WHO's the Moors? How can you just sit there and just watch the videos all the time? But now it's like my motivation to get caught up with one piece is so I can also watch this vinews, I say, but anyone to know. I want to talk about these theories, but I don't spoil myself. So I had to get caught up. So, yeah, I see you ape in it for sure now. Yeah, we also going to say I like how like with like. I guess more black people be more vocal about they look for anime. I think I just really like that, like just even. I just casually like I could be Jordan. Had that interview and I don't even know how they got to the point and he was talking about Narrato. How did he how did he say it? Never row two or something in the road to we willing reason saying a Rotis. Oh my God, that's what Reallys the same thing is the thing is this. This is my problem. This is my problem. How the hell do you say in no Roati in public multiple times? I was it one seeing I'm phased like like that's that's like he thought. How on Earth would you miss if you had actually watched it? Like, how do you mispronounce it so much if you watch it in the Japanese dub? Is clearly not at all. In the English dub is Naruto multiling May. I don't know where you get the Roti from and then say it and then put out much, yeah, much. I respect it. To be honest. I've a good scam. He's a fraudster. I love a good scary but I still we should get we should get keep him. The committee nice to appreciate the sentiment of the same like a black Lewty. She's like seeing as like a hot fog by. A lot of people could just casually just drop about. Stop for lying. By his favorite anime, even if you miss pronounced it. You know, have you seen a lot of like celebrities? I was just thinking, like, okay, like I think I missed getting like uncle be Jordan interviews and like making the stallions. Or is that cost pain for characters? I could pick. One of my favorite ones is when she did I dressed up as some psychic a she'd her make up to the psychic. Did you just let me do the pictures? I quite cool. It's really cool. Yeah, it Looksychv Hoty, like, you know, like it's still making this dadium, but she's just like flexing, like yeah, I think one of the best ones I've seen is Israel a is Sonya, the UC, the UC fighter. Oh, yeah, he's a much yeah, he's a massive one piece. He's a massive one. Knows, a big one piece fan is big Naruto phone okay, so he does lack a lot of hand seals while he's fighting. That's is what he's you can tell he's like legit. He is wearing the they are cats of ky yeah, SS. Also because he can actually fight, so it's not going and because he can actually fight. It is not crey and like John Boyega, like this personal instagram was even relate to anime. He's just flexing like his heart, like at my feat house, like I'm still booked, too busy. You're mad about it. There's like a massive like Google likes that you like. It was casually in his house, like this museum he's gonna, he's going. He's like figures like on the shelf in the background. It's just like, oh my gosh, work is like into Johns and like I just like the casual like stuff. And I found the cat my draggonboard. You rags stupid song, but it's like as and it's a king. Would you write just I love the little just like casual kind of like hmm, yeah, this is I'm into this kind of thing. Is like when I'm just like a whole bee of mine, just casually. It's not like a big deal. Just like yeah, it's just normal. HMM. And he's a like high profile people just facts in it. And then, in a similar vein, shaling didn't the soundtrack for Jiujitsu has a massive that's and he's always been a big anime fans. Yeah, yeah, I just love seeing things like that and it's good that he's not lost the he's not let go of that, you know, animazing. He's always kind of had in these lyrics and espisode it's continued evel up until now. Even his LIZ project is a not towards one piece, the worst, the worshiperration. That's awesome. See, I love things like that and I feel like I just think it. Oh yeah, black is shum of gofice me to talk about stuff like how can we tie in other than just like, you know, representation stuff. I think this is the kind of stuff that springs to mind. HMM, shouldn't might be the guy's profile, British person. That's so, shaling go, if you're watching, this is a core to action. You need to be the next spoke first. Yeah, yeah, anime community has an enemy put now. Yeah, was it with Amazon? Is With them? I'm not sure. I'm some crime pretial is. He's always been like well, not always bought. From what I've seen. He's always been a spoken records to anything animy related. s good man, it's good. I guess we answer the...

...previous we need a voice. The answer the previous question. In a way their pressure. But yeah, FLA's a flag. Yeah, we love. We love the output stuff. I definitely want to see more like the UK. I think there's so many like passionate fans here. HMM. Just what do we want as fans? I want that's want to see more black Conti Fros I want. But what I want? It's not the black COMMUNIC conjay. To me use would my game probus in English. I want the pously is done. Could do much about that. Is Good. It's above us, swear. Whoever could do anything about can being probably. I'm begging you do something. It isn't like the black anime fans in the UK or I want, I guess, more people just pay, not content. I think like you see, there's a bunch of that for as. I could do bunch of podcast. You already you got our good friends at an ad alternative. It's a super enemy. PODCAST is Americans, though, but we love them all the same. Yeah, there's a bunch of people putting our stuff very like and there's like a directory coup side by a black spig guy, black animy podcast. Again, a lot of those podcasts are American, but he's I think he's he's pretty much on the ball. He's got like every every black enemy podcas that exists and the director analysis few like UK creators on there as well. So yeah, I think just more that stuff, what people just took. I'd like to see more people like doing the really like know the stuff, like analyzing Manga. You can like yeah, yeah, we have enough people dim break that chapter, breakdown, you know what, because it's like it's all skew and it's all skewed towards the same Manga and the same anime. So everything. Yeah, everything's always skewed towards one piece or did Jus crys or demon slayer, and it's yes, it's always it's basic, shortly job. Yeah, I guess people like a Manga than so like that even like I'm gonna get too off done. Don't chase a man. Look back. I Fujimoto, like people just like read the Manger and then I can view it and there's like a discussion about it and then venture into different genres and stuff like. I'm really happy that man money is like we like open mind and stuff like. Okay, I'm collecting Manga now. That's my that's my dedity now. And what else? I am right now into you and he's like, Oh, twos, can you suggest to me more? Jose and I showed your man guard was like wow, this is amazing. I am Manga by Mangas me. Yeah, so I think that's cool. I think he's going to surpass you know, he already has. I was flying. He's like how much? How many Manga volumes you have? was like yeah, where I get him and I'm counting. I was like, Oh, yeah, I don't have up to thirty mango volumes. Yeah, no, waited, yeah, wait, there's no way. You don't have myself. Most of it is my game art books. HMM, it doesn't make mango. I've gone over a hundred. I'm like, I'm like a broming yesterday coming if you got space? Yeah, that's Asolute knows. Face old my dream. I'm just I'm space to jumping as pupin and she told me that my test it's still it. Still Can we talk about funny? Two of I'm gonna pump and don't talk finished it. Yeah, but can you finish this? Talk About for I don't care, like I can't find anywhere looking for you're gonna find it. What many funds you have have to okay, so for for okay, I've want to. I have wanted. I was like, let me just get the bulk, as you decide. For men. Needn't like it, because I boy, I'm gonna have to finish it. Everyways, I think, you know what. I think we're just gonna have to learn Japanese. Problem. You might learn Japanese quicker than when King. Do you know what? Because obviously, again one peace, there's been like videos in regards to you how old order rights one piece and use a lot of puns and a lot of candy wordings on and so forth to help with for sh I doing so. I literally try to learn Japanese because of that, because of the got like three weeks into but doing this like I can't do this. I'm way better than that. I'm way too busy. I go way to be I things the D for me too. I was actually doing okay for like a little while and then uni, but fuck my ass, you unique. Mostly that Japanese model self taking in the second day, I just drop its. Can do it. I can't get a lot. You know it's a lot. Will actually how you along. But the funniest thing is Japan. Going to Japan, you actually pick up so many little things. Yeah, like I did a right on the trains and ask you. That's something about. That's the thing about immersion is always going to be difficult, especially when a language that uses a completely different alphabet to us if you're not in the country that was spoken in.

Imagine is like. I remember was in the airport and the was about to walk off from the guys. Like your thoughts, though, I was like, Oh, okay, I know what I mean. No, I didn't know what it meant at the time. Okay, but he said it, learned it and then I'd I kind of picked up and then I remember we were we're going somewhere else and was getting in a bus. This wasn't a bus to go back to Tokyo, I believe. Okay, and someone else said it to us as I I don't know what I mean. What I mean, I think it's so funny because I knew what it meant and it wasn't like I was translating it to English. It's like you hear the sounds and yeah, you kind of know what they're insinuating. Buy It was so interesting. Like you can, you can, you learn Japanese to a certain extent. You still have to actually go. I step down out there. Yeah, I mean there's nowadays, obviously with modern technology, what you can do is you can immerse yourself in my chat rooms and stuff. I mean, he's still be conversation without going to Japan, but if you will be like have a pre serious proficiency of it, you still have to if you want to, if you want to be done structors natives. I just want to be able to play such Japan. have to go there as a Japanese games and each Avanese Manga. Yeah, I want to understand all those puns about having Lobo horror translating it. So I guess my question is my answer to that question is I'd like to see more UK black anime. Contempt is making or reviewing Manga outside of jump titles. Absolutely good UK black a man's reviewing saying in and Jersey. Yeah, and there's so much space and scope for it. This is so many different things. You have people that are dedicated like, for example, in the usuf people that are dedicated to the most niche your Manga, and we could do that here. The space for air and they'll be interest in it. It's a mands you like again, like the front the French I'm aim fans. Do you know that account on twitter that's always unplugging? Or the I guess, more niche titles, mango, Mogota or whatever. They like a pink Avatar. Oh okay, definitely, absolutely. Yeah, the cover some the Manga magazines string from Japan. It's a French person behind. I ca MMM, you know this Manga News in English. So yeah, because usually what I find, and this happens if TV shows as well as that, like I might I might see a spoiler or I might see like a seri of something, and that's what gets me into it. Usually the synopsis doesn't really do that much. Most mangaing animes not. This is, you know, a boy leaves his home and see not getting he's died in or something. He a he's into the game's work. It up on an island. It's all the same thing. But when you see some of the series and some of like it might be, as it might be a still or Manga, a screen cap or something, that's what usually gets people into it. I always say about that does that particular page and change the man. That finally got me to read it, because I want to strom why everyone was so rattled by it. And when I walking towards the door it was dingy and I think Makima walking towards the wing, towards the door, and everyone on my tears reading change the mind was treating that particular page just saying, Oh no, oh no, I can't wait if you to get to the pass, like no one's spoiling and they haven't, because usually things that happened and something gets really popular, is hard to dodge spoilers. But to this moment I hadn't been spoiled up. Walking toad much of this and finally for her about singly. Always Spooky about that page because it just it is completely in ocuous. I was like what is so scary? But I see these panels and it's like there's a panel in the promise Neverland. You probably seen it, yeah, where I can't remember her name I haven't even watched the boy. No exactly which kind, where she's leaning over the yeah, she's yeah, she's looking at her yeah, and creepy and it's just like you can tell it's creepy, but we don't understand how creepy it is and I wanted to find out how creeper it really was. That's why I started reading it. I got you use that mute function, or one piece words. I got meted. I've got a Mademah, a meeted, one piece, meeted, jjk me and they do it. Firs been spoiled for me. S More small. You know what's so funny, and I know people don't like to hear this yet, but there's actually so like I probably said it to you guys there. I saw a research article on spoilers and apparently, for the most part, even when people say they don't like him but I don't want to see him, it can actually enhance experience. Link me, because I needed I would have myself because, for example, I don't mind me spoil about, but then there's others that I really want to like. I feel like if one Peace Gospel for me, it would pin me off. I guess spoiled. Usually when I guess once someone get spoiled for me. If it was like, I'm okay with it, if it's not spiteful. Yeah, I think that's that's the number one thing. The spite of it is usually the issue. Here's someone emailed watchers base email. Yeah, and the subject heading, everything is...

...completely different. So it's looking for me. He's really through the email see like what the person wants and write the bottom is spoiler for the latest chapter. He had a way yet and you, obviously it reviews it and talks about it. If it's community on stream and Egiments, and why would you go out of every way think invent like an imaginary like question you will want to post to me in the email and I get to the bottom. You want to see like those are out their way, even even one piece. There's literally a whole community that read spoilers ahead of time. You and Jerry Joe doesn't be spoilers. Joey doesn't spoil. This is it's it's running blaze. It's basic. Do a black men look at you back, Zeka, Cherry black this you know, in one place I didn't Splat in to us saying it because it only at spoiled. Ye, ask for spoilers in the group. Chack is either money or running, or Jerry. So Jerry, Jerry doesn't see. No, no, it's please, it's blazer run. So we didn't even talk u spoilers in the shot. I just I just DM THEM MOS like isn't about like to spoilers, and you won't do Google eyes, Emergie, you guys are sickers. Really expoil this, especially if it's doing a week. It doesn't change my enjoyment of the chapter in the slightest for me person anyways, I'll read the spoilers when we the chatter still be as gassed as everybody else. But it was just what this yeah, it's where I think expoilers is just start. What you want to see out of the UK? Yes, very deep question. I have to make community. What you want to see. Would you like to see? What would you like to see? Well, to see we on the sport silence, as ass of it has spent. But you have to as mine similar to you, more black content, creaers, just it doesn't even necessarily have to be different. John knows the demographics of Manga. Enemy. You could just be looking at in different aspects. Like, for example, there's something online. Can Remember. The Youtube Channel is called. It's something effect, where they just literally just look at the corner per is something, something about animations. Yes, they took about animation and go through the issue of different animation or different frames. That's Xyza, which is like it's interesting to me. You have another youtube channel. They'll talk about the music behind animations and will be another you tube channel, Dout, will break down character themes or so on and so forth. In like it could be so varied. It doesn't necessarily have to be our. You can, you have to talk about shown in your talk, should you? You can literally speak. You can literally pick a genre demographic and look at different aspects of it, within it, or even just animy in general or Manga in general. There's even like myngays a talk about different shading and and how Manga is drawn. Not Know even about the story or about the different angers. It. Just like there's so many different ways you can tackle any sort of medium, and anime Manga is so varied and I guess I would say untouched. In regards to UK content. CREA is that there's so much that we can type into. Yeah, okay, got one now. Yeah, sounds also say because you guys mentioned just seeing more like content creators. That would be nice with me person I don't have time to watch. I just don't have time to watch people like doing stuff, obviously for eyes of other people. I just don't have time to just watch extra last for my time on Youtube. But I think what would be nice to see is that if there are an existing kind of black people who kind of work behind the scenes in delivering like the content that we do watch. of O There's some black people up there and crunchy role in Cunty roll yet for country roll and all the other kind of organization. I think we'll be nice kind of hear their voices and kind of understand like what do they do? How do they get into those kind of spaces, because we know there are there are Maga fans and anime fans. You love that stuff and I'm sure that'd be didn't want to know even learn more about the roots, about how those individuals, if they are there, which I probably probably are be small amounts, how they get to that, and I think that would open yours to have maybe more people behind the scenes in that time and a really increased amount of black faces that we'd see in those spaces. And there's companies. I think that would be good. That's a really cool point actually. And cancer that insider insight. Yeah, something's industry. Yeah, could be big. Could be our insiders as well? Yeah, yeah, I think so. I just remember something I forgot to talk about. I don't really to point earlier and you forgot. It had a couple points. One of them I don't want to talk about. It's just the Mario Love Action. Oh No, no, is it because Chris Pratt and why? It was completely fine. No, it's just it's just hilarious to me. To gonest. I saw they're gonna get bullied like the sonic one. We're going to see. You are trying to be like after go back now is I do don't think so. I saw tweet that made me really angry because it's fine. So I love. Actually that Cris animations. I'm sorry,...

...animation. Sorry, sorry, so sorry. That's really animation. I've source freely. Yeah, I saw a tweet that made me be angry because it's facts. Like they said, Chriss Pratts, we're going to be paid such hole more money to voice Mario and there and then now, what's his name? Charles Martine? Charles MARTINEIU got pick would have been paid these whole like career voicing Mario, because he's gonna be in the he's gonna be in the film and he's appears in the film, is making more money than but what else is my thing is this is going to be major for the future image of the Mario Franchise and obviously the Maria Franchise and compasses everything to do Nintendo. Right, if you're switching, because it feels like you're essentially switching from Charles Martinei to more Americanized voice, because if Chris Prachris to do mas voice, it's going to be extremely racist. Be Like, I mean, let's be real. Charles Martinei's voice is racist, but we're used to it. But if if Chris Pratt is now to say my movie, I mean to me is like that's that's why people's business isn't really racist. We decided black people that I didn't really think about it, but that Mario is guys like French and he's doing a tenn accent as a racist, like. Well, we'll trying to say is the same no, I'm not speaking for white people with the white pssses is racist, the Italian version of blaxing. Anyway, what's gonna say? I think I wouldn't be. It wouldn't to be, though. Maybe he is. I don't know. Maybe. Now let's get yeah, that's thinking. This is my brother. showed the cartoons, right the he like a popper, like New Yorker Brooklyn I acaid. I think that's toby walk in here. That's any direction, coup, because I talk like himself voicing. That's going to be freaky. You have to go like the New Yorker Brook like. Probably it's Alina Man May. I have no idea how's gonna the only person I know is going to do a great job is Jack Black. Oh, yeah, one S. Yeah, he's gonna do correct bowsers like you. He looks like bowels already. That's a terrific casting. I must say that black is bowser like who. Of course he was with a view nothing fucking. What's his name is Luigi? MMM something, always forgetting to any day. Yeah, that's amazing. Is I like that casting? It's appropriate. He's such a Luigi. Yeah, he's a ratic enoughter. Yeah, Oh, no, I think in general when it comes to voice acting, listen is a issue. Just find it weird how the obviously I don't know how how good of a voice that took Chris Pat is, but I just finding where they the class you go out for like Mega Stars at not weird, understand why, but making stars acting wise and use them as voice actors when there's actual people that have time. Yeah, I've been trained this. Yeah, we have here. We have to this. I think that's why I want to see from the UK committee as well what more black were. Know what's No one was. British voice actors are so maybe it doesn't count, but we could to see more like I can, really could be a voice at bridge was actors for and I could do it because it because I'm something to do. English stub is the default is American. I'd like to see like some like English, absolutely, absolutely cannot do voice acting because is all that would work with something like could guess, because it's certain Britannia, that would work and that worked. It would have worked. They got some like British. Some think people to be fair, the first season of Jorge Bizarre. That's English stub. One is actually good yes, yes, yes, exact. Isn't it the SPL stop? You know, you said English that, but is it was fully English voices? Was it just about? If it wasn't, did on a really good job. I can't. I haven't seen any. It's good. The only, the only English dubner is really good, as Castlevania. Yeah, very good, cousin media, very good. Have made sense to feel any other way British did. So maybe there is hope. Like would like to see more. It is any black voice acted. There's so many black boys actors in can jump, sure, but like in Anime, I think we'd be cool. Yeah, good idea, you know. Yeah, yeah, we have five those around up. Sure. So that's been this episode. Sell us the number of this episode. We don't have an episode number for this...

...because it might be more one. Okay, Oh, yeah, true, but it would be free six, which is it's not, but it's not. Anna come out one episode. is how I'm going to split this episode. We can. Ye, we could do specifics. We talked about yes, okay, we discuss it on ones day, like okay, he's a good but it would be fifty six. Okay. So thanks. Put the numbers and so thanks for tuning into this episode of the Fort Academia podcast. It's been great to be in the studio and like a see people. F is the first time we've all been like together in person to record the podcast since we was amazing. Maybe we did it. We actually ever done one in person? One once. Yeah, that's mad. No, that's a lie mode. We went over there for that one. There was that time we went to Prime Times. She was there. The issues there for that one evens one time. But there's time when it was thus prime and prize work place. All Ye, problem. But yeah, it's been great to record in person in the flesh. The flesh was very special black history month episode. I hope you enjoy them. If you have any if you have anything you want to say to us, if you want to, let yellow us. We are at for as I could demio on twitter and on instagram and Tick Tock and Youtube and everywhere else. Last know your thoughts and anything last day. What you would like to see out of the black anime fandom in the UK, what content you'd like them to put out, and let's know of your experiences. Is being a black enemy fan in the UK as well. We really interested in hearing stories, as always. Great to know about people's entry into defendom. It's really interesting, so share your stories with us. And Yeah, I've been to so Chris Money and we've been for as I can be like them.

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