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Episode 37 · 1 year ago

What makes Fullmetal Alchemist great? || Episode 37

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

In this week's episode, we talk about how truly great the Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood series is. Ponle recently had the pleasure of watching the anime for the first time! He shares his thoughts and views with Manny and Estelle. 

On this episode: @TooMannyMen @oluwaponz @estrella8_

Thanks tuning in listening watching two episode. Thirty seven of the four eyes I could email podcast. I'm still and today I am joined by Po, late, you and money. Hello. So this week's topic we are going to be discussing and talking about, think, quite a popular anime, which is for metal alchemist and brotherhood. So make that distinction. We are to want Brotherhood today and look the original and just kind of took out some of the really cool themes and flocks that we enjoyed watching. polly recently watched it and money I watched it years and years ago. So it's going to be a great opportunity for us to kind of just brain store and just book talk about from Difference Perspectives and I've got some of the things that we've enjoyed. But, as we do every week, we have two news topics that we like to quickly go and discuss, so I get straight into it. First off, there an article here from ign which sits that Avatar the movie is set to be avengers endgame as highest grossing movie after rerelease. So advertise about to retake the title of highest grossing animal of all time thanks to its return to Chinese une peters. This weekend. So for almost ten years James Cameron's movie was a highest scossing film until avengers was released in two thousand and nineteen, which overtook avatars by two point seven. I saysmember. It's just so long. But yeah, yeah, there's a billions, lads of billions. Yeah, it was I think you read it wasn't that much. That end game actually became my highest grows in film by. But yeah, I said, because I read, I because they're trying to get Chinese film goes to go back to Phil I'm cinema again. So they decided to rerelease avatns films in cinemas. So that way to get, as I said, to get people back into the cinemas following the pandemic and because at that evertising to overtake, go back to be in top high gross high scorers in film of all time again. But I don't think any. Disney don't care because dizzy owns both now. So that's just my money in about for Disney is the everything these that now also good to home. But yeah, it is the only everything. so He'say more money about with Disney. They got like six of the top ten highest grows from films all time. I own by Disney, which isn't mad, it's creedy, is actually very mud but yeah, they don't mind. But yeah, this is just trying to, you know, post by pandemic get makes sense kind of normality. And they thought aside the quite well in China originally. So yeah, and I wonder why because, you know, I think we've all watched the movie and just remembering the claw and what it was. What about? I don't think there was anything and yeah, excite about it other than in the CGI a special effects which were quite cool at the time. Yeah, but comparison to that, just end game. I don't just questions. Yeah, why? I agree with you. Days over time was not the plot. Wasn't anything special. I think the only thing about it was really the special effects. That's at the fact she said it's the time they were actually just might. Well, I would have been saying maybe blue people away. But yeah, there's the special fix with them main attraction of the film. So yeah, that's the only thing about it. So, apart from that, maybe it was an interesting from to bring about. But you like I said, Disney eating any way. So they don't care. I think that's why all literally bows out to is just the I guess, the marketing around it being one of the first d films to come out and probably the most enjoyable bed film to come out at that time. It is. It just it just added to to is informing for people to have to go and watch it. I don't know say care for the full but understand why. It quick to the level where I got too. Yeah, makes sense. Next to Gaming News, e a sports is investigating whether feed for ultimate team cards are being sold in Llegally by employees. The allegations, which Sky News is not substantiated, are causing concern among fews. That all to alter our kind of speak, ultimately for ultimate game players. So as the Games are both yeah, this is let the people know. This is me. There's a lot of yeah. So this is to do ea of just beings been ere being a big trouble for a while and are because this is all to go back to their Michael Transaction loot boxes, a lot of a lot of countries loves, I think the Netherlands, Belgium, commember other countries, but they've banned loop boxes and if people ultimate team doesn't, is not in those countries because it's essentially lukebox, because there's trying to say it's basically gambling, which I agree with. It is literally gambling by it's so easy, accessible to younger kids, etc. There's been mobile...

...stories, you know, you are seen through as BBC etc. Parents not not not realizing, nor kids blowing hundreds, maybe even thousands of pounds of their parents money trying to get, for example, like those. One story of one these kids wanted to get lead Um messy, the messy car for fe for ultimate team, and spent I think over a thousand their parents money or something like that. Yeah, trying to get yeah, trying to get leaner, but also getting messy. But is so, so low. But I said it's gambling. Is essentially gambling. At eas just been thrown left, right center around and people, you know, right. Finally governments wising up, even the UK's Whi is not even more so to it, because they've, I think again, I can't remember what secret what section of government said it, but they said they have to look into this some and mark loop boxes gambling, especially after you don't know what Ali boxes boxes is. Basically had often explain it. You get you pay a bit of money usually and you you get a chance of getting, for example, a rare item or something, depending on the game. But it's you could it's a random item you get could be rare, could be common, but you don't know. It's just playing a game of chance. You play some money to try and you getting iron and then, depending on where it is, could be around, could be common, I said, but it's similar. is similar to gambling in the ways. You know, it's got machines. Is what machines? Exactly like that? Yeah, similar to slot machines, putting in, just playing by chance. But because, like companies like eat, etc. They usually try and say it's not gambling, they like to call it surprise mechanics, you know, like in the surprise. That's what they tried to do with it when the UK governm government work question regardless. That's what they they called it surprised mechanics and compareditor kind the surprise. But yeah, no, it's not like in the surprise. This more. But yeah, as for example, so with the story here, some EEA employees have been selling ultimate team cards. Usual you'd have to spend thousands, maybe tens of thousands maybe, to get some of these rare cards. I think there's a cool cards or digital cards, a digital the digital. Yeah, the digital. So I think they somehow, I'm not sure, I didn't read the fully, how they get give the person to cards anyway. But yeah, they've been maybe for a backdoor something like that. But these employees I've been, you know, saying like give me like one bag five, you know, one files of parting you, maybe I can get you like this rare icon cards, for example, maybe like a Ronaldo, I like Ana Ronaldo Card, which should probably have to spend if you because the odds of getting these cards are, like they said, yea gives the odds like one percent, but we don't know exactly how. But no one person it is. But it's you're this is mad because they're not even physical cards. It's ultimates, like I said, it's like gambery. That's the problem. is like an it's literally like gambling and people hooked on on these Games, like these markets, and is actually and chances, because these things give you better chance. As you know, on feeble, my team, I don't replay ultimate team anyway, but these go a good way to help in on there, I think. But the fact that this has happening and I employers have been doing this to make profit. It's gonna learn earn even more hot water anyway, regard this whole loop box issue anyway. So they're not. He is now investigating which employs me have done this and you know, we'll see what happens. But the day loop boxes get banned in this country the better. Anyway, I say, because the gaming industry ain't going to regulate them. So now you're gonna have to let someone it's going to be a Goble Yep. If you did the game the industry or do it, then someone else is going to do it and it won't like it. So tough. That's what I see any way to so yeah, so I'll our resident game and correspondent has spoken. We're not here for loot box and inches in just toe like how the story develops. So if it is on our news desk for next week or when we come back or whenever that is, sure'll discuss that again. Explain. Cool, cool. So on to the main topic. have an order. But yes, as we stated at the start, we had to talk about for metal alchemist front of head anime. So obviously start off this conversation. It'll be great to hear. What were your what were your key takeaways from the anime? And haven't watched it, do you? Why? Do you agree or disagree that it's one of the best? So that's let me say it again. What were your key takeaways from it as a series and you last see or agree disagree as to why? It's because the did the best animals of its time. So yeah, I completely agrees...

...on them. With and these this time I really enjoyed, for a metal alchemist, the themes wise, the key points I can take away, I think, why I liked it as well. You tore even the side characters. You saw a lot to them. You saw a lot of personalities. I think all the characters I had personality them. Actually the plot, I thought it was actually a great I enjoyed the plot as well, the whole and I think the whole thing of Alchemy as well, and you know, the whole equivalent exchange law for more alchemists. I really, really enjoyed. I did get end up because I started watching it, then I stopped for a bit and I got into it again. I think I started start watching it like cough a few weeks ago again and then I just end up vinging it because I could last two parts, such as ended up hooked and wanted to see the end of this and see where our it goes. But I do like the whole theme and plots of it. You do see it does kind of mirror bit of things of real life as well. Our humans can be the worst of humans and also, I say, the best as well. You can see with us also the conspiracies behind the scenes of the government in that inform of I say the government, the military government, where we want to call it, but other key points. So I did. I thought I came close to a lot of characters. Actually, I came to like some of the Monkey, like Shu. I like greed. Actually quite like greed, because in the end green, yeah, I think I did like greed, for example, him, he just rip really wanted in the end. He wanted everything, but everything, I think you just wanted friends. That was really what you said. He was one of the friends. That was the that was a gree part of the iven't call him so I just called a father. Yeah, but yeah, were just wanted friends. Even envy just was I think envy. It was jealous of the bonds of other people. It was a scene the way, I think that some of the Ho Munger is seen how they kind of came to terms of some things as well. You know, you know the villains. You know some of them. They weren't actually bill good villains and you saw that they they had more to them actually than just actually when you bring up because although they had the issues, you kind of just see what or after once it was defeated, like well, the she'Sall kind of just tell out over bow or it's like they've come to terms of, you know, as you said, that what was yeah, actually seeking and also, yeah, and also those as well. It what they come to terms of any kind of mirrors, what their names are like Mvy, you know, he was envying the bonds. I said, greed when it's, you know, just want to when their friends. That was his greed. Remember how lot, I know LST got. I'm died and Fighting Mustang on trying to remember, because there's roll. What did she want? She really are? I remember already. I have forgotten that one. But even pride, you see him as a going back into little feet at more pride. Not that anyway. You still there. Well, yeah, he came close with Mustang's wife, basically, I know, not Mustang, sorry, and pure Bradley's wife, basically, see, where as a mother in the and but now formal activist is I complete agree you guys. I don't know why I didn't watch you sooner. It's amazing. It was actually fantastic. Another yes, it's happened. That finally touched on was the regards to how good this point characters were throughout the whole of formal alchemist, and I think that's a testimony to the MANGAICA, if I'm pronouncing him right here. O me. She she don't great work in being able to have such a well written cost to to have once the story, I guess, because not only did you enjoy the story of our funds and an elder brother, sure, yeah, you're also to have a Mustang, you also have the history of barber and and and our extrad and you also have the history of a scar and his people. But this is so many different plot lines within from building series as different world. It's exactly and it don't all come together fairly well. And and she's left it in a way where it can easily be more explored. We're only look in one country. Essentially want one issue, and yet the wholeful alchemist I'm story can be explored further. I'm not saying that it should sometimes leap b things with it with our but I'm happy that I've got a satisfying conclusion or story which she can actually see it being able to be pro griffs get off to exactly. I'm just on that point. Money mentioned that this ending. I'm not sure if you both have watched the original FMA series, because what we's talk about in this episode is but it's above had five episode the original FMA. Yes,...

...only because somebody told me that you thought watching watch probably good. Thought I did in a level of back you had a good friend. You had a good friend there, because I watch it till the end. Got then I'll just like, what is going on like? This is what kind of ending is it? And I wasn't happy. But then I'd later learned that brother had been made before the ending of the actual Manga, which is why didn't you have an ending that made sense. I did good as I all right, I'm more set asided this ending, but it is it was interesting to see that the how you know when anime studios are just given the free range just do whatever how they just take it to their own hands. Obviously, I think we'd all agree that probably is the one to go watch. Whatever animation style defist slightly, I think it's still I'm not sure, I feels made by the same anima sues. You know, I have to check, but definitely for listening brotherhood over the original for sure. Yeah, it's profits and moves and, as I said, money. We were saying before the POW. All the characters are fleshed out so well and the even it's only sixty four episodes, but so much happens. You see in this Tho, sixty four episodes, as so many plots that come to get is so well written. They have, I said, multiple plots that come to give, to fight the final big plot, and done well as in to be shown across sixty four episodes a dust anyway as well. I said father was a good villain. I thought Bob was a very good villain. Yeah, that, because you see, you go back into his history as well, him, him and Hoffamheim, their connection. It gets reveal, because I was like remember when I was first watching the last saw enough. Thought that weight is that their dad. I was thinking raw, wait, what, but then it wasn't and I was like, hmm, how is these he and then they fleshed. Then you go into the history of is it Xerx, he's or what's up? I can't pronounce that. Ancients. See, you find out what we find out off of Beheim is a centuries old and basically immortal, basically the father, the first, and he fathers the first Mongolus, who was made from pop my own blood by at the time as well, I was actually just a slave. And he's learning more. You learn about hit their history together, what came to be, what and how they became memortal. Ex searching and you learn, and also the plots where you see because I think even at the beginning the first episode, you see that they all brothers trying to stop and I'ct was he? You alchemist? That guy. Can't remember the it was. It was a the alchemist. Yeah, it was to stay alchemists trying to stop him. Then I realizing that guy was actually even the villain. After when you get to the all in, know that guy was even the villain, that the at all you was trying to because he knew what he knew, he knew, and then you'll silence by you know, good old Sher Bradley are. It was nice to see it. I enjoyed how everything developed on the plot, how it will fick and how they came across the government conspiracy excor realizing everything. So many people behind it, I'll think him the harder going to get cover calm this because they're so so many higher ups are involved. Are they going to move around your kids just like it was just two kids? But those kids are tenacious. I got give them that as well. Yeah, wait, I want itself ahead. As I say, knowing what you know now and you've watched the series, you've picked out all the themes. What type of so, knowing the type of anime that Fama brother is, what type of anime watching, you think this would be best seated, for example, like if you were to recommend it, for example, I fa isn't a serious I just recommended to just anyone. So I guessed. My question is, what Tipe of Anima? What should you think this is best suitful? That's a good question. I don't even because I'm trying to think, because I first I want to say I feel that it is actually good anime you want to get into in the mital watch. Actually, I was going to say that, like, if you want to start watching anime, is of good first one to watch because it's only like it's only sixty four episodes and episodes are like on the half an hour each. So it's an amazing I think. I'm know if you people will start watching any that. That's the first time I chosen that. I think it's a great one to pick off from, pick up from. But the purse kind of person and I watch. I'd say. I'd say is anyone that likes a good story driven anime, that likes animis that may go in deep into the hume, you know, into more ful philosophical themes. Yeah, such as, you know, life and there for cuivent exchange like, like I said, the good, the best in the worst of human beings. Yeah, I'll sink. Yeah, anyone...

...same things. You can't just you can't just gloss over. They stings. I feel like you have to be able to be that cer type of watch a little pick those out. So I agree with your life. So, yeah, I got your cut. You up funny. Oh Yeah, remember a point on what will seeing earlier, I think was about the plot lands that he would mentioning and and how at the beginning of the first episode, or in the first episode of former Alchemist, probably we get them, but in a a former stay algamists, but proud the whole story. We see me the get that it's very short, sixty four episode. We see me get different villains all the time, but it's not. It's not hinderance to the story, it's constantly progresses it. So I remember correctly, we obviously get to get that former state outemy. Don'tant to stay. altemist onder deals with the ice in the first episode. Then eventually end up going to some random town with the priest event. That's when we hand out about the seven deadly sins. There's a whole plot line there. And then we get the whole plotline. We were the great short that car and when we wants of the great searching great, but what more? One more point is that even yours just got up. One more point is that we don't even get this many villains in some long running enemies. We don't get this many good being then with well written villains running enemies. Every single villain that we come across was there for the purpose of burbering the plot and making the plot makes sense. You're having obstacles for protagonists come across with about making it, but making too much of a big deal of it, I guess sometimes like we don't need a big fight every single episode. Yeah, the conclusion. We don't need the conclusion of the protagonist versus the villain of the art to be one massive world breaking five. So yes, sometimes, sometimes the village is getting arrested or against. This is enough. So yeah, so back to what polly was saying regards to the plotline and the villains, that they she wrist so well in terms of putting together and making sure that it makes sense for the story. Yeah, I agree, and I think the level, just on your point money about the villain just being them, not having to do like grand stuff each time, I think was very much, you know, very much put in place here to help develop at an owl because when you see them originally it's just that they're very desperate, the orphans, well, they think they're at the statedly they're all friends. I lost their mom, so just waiting to do any in everything to kind of get to the original goal. So having those particular Biden's kind of put into it to the plot just helps them. It just character building. So I agree on a point. Yeah, I agree that everything you guys have said. They're as like you just yeah, the villains, they're just helping him carry as you sa character building, because you see how their goals still remain the same, but they change. Well, the way they go about it changes over the course of the story, because at first I'll try and, you know, get a frost of the stone so they can get their original bodies back. Then they started stopping more and more up on the truth searcher, like how the stones are created, and then the learning about, you know, transportation circles, and yeah, you see how and then I'll look about our chemistry as well. you see how the whole plot develops, as you said, and they just keep the growth. The characters keep growing as you go along. And I was great see and actually read that alchemy is real, because I remember what I was reading it watches. I was like what's Alchemy and I was transmutation, and it's like really, really old, like research and just, yeah, it just it's a real, real yes, really, oh, I know. Yeah, I've always known alchemy is real, but I can remember exactly how old it is. But alchemy, yeah, back in I don't know how many one, seventeen, hundred, sixteen hundred, yeah, maybe, if I don't yeah, probably a thousand of years ago. Yeah, that's probably when they'll, you know, practice a sound us to do for maybe photos, like essentially before BC. Okay, I was good, before DC, isn't it? Yeah, it would be BEC. It was around those. Yeah, thousands of years ago. Be You know, meant those medical alchemy excter A. Yeah, but yeah, no, I'm for more alchemist. Isn't the amazing animal? you think this phrases more so you think I'm not going to coup money here before he forgets his point, just under alchemy stuffed. Obviously it's fass a thousand years old. I think so. With the Progression of Science, obviously we don't use the world doesn't use alchemy anymore. And I fin and I thought like one of the principles throughout all my alchemists, like you just said, that all we see the characters grow, grow, growl. We also see, we will see the principle of former alchemist being the you, invention of science and the growth of...

...science and these the sciences we were in society. So I'm not get a lot of flat about short talker after the player on a bell. I don't get for the character how much, but gets on to me about is sold to flap with it. But and show people at show, Tucker, I will tell human being allful farther. But I do appreciate his against philosophy. And you free say careful of money. He killed his boat and he turned his Dogan is into camera. At least. Yes, it's all for guy. Yeah, wanted to understand science more and push human kind to the brink of knowledge, I guess, and I think. I think that's like pretty much the whole story of my alchemist. Yeah, I stop with Edward and and Alf enough and alphes pushing science to his brink by trying to do the taboo of trying to be coming back to life, trying to use science do something that they shouldn't do. We get Bob, but the main villa in front the whole story. The only reason that he existed because he showed to get broser to the character that we know now as the truth by using science to do that. So now we've got someone like show Talker who, in the most awful way of one of the most awful is you can think of, chance to do science, to to get, I guess, in his own way, even though it's wrong, trying to progress and human pients. So my point is that the thing that why I enjoy short uppers, charactor and and and I guess what the the Manaa have to make him represent was the idea of pushing science further. But it's also mother necessarily, there's also limitation and things that you need to sacrifice for that to happen. With Bulls down to the the most important thing, the first one of Alchemy, which is the law of equivalent exchange. He managed to bag many's bag, which I think guys in red really, really well. So I do think that's short. Toptic is pretty much a really good character. Or teach you guys, for somebody to use as a case study for you. Try to explain the story of all my alchemist for me any is, you know, too fair. I do here. I do he cause, shoot, Tucker was a mad, madman, but he will. He was obsessedive science, basic he was obsessed with further in his knowledge and, you know, research and stuff but he's a madman. Anyway. He washed it to resto was on forgiving. But I get exactly what you're saying there, because that's what will it was about. For Him. was just further in his research try and, you know, to improve with, you know, making cameres, etc. I've got damn, but yeah, I still shaken. I'm shake, I'm shake, I'm shake, risting hard the poor girl. Well, my sister literally, because because I knew, I went to Google and what episode that that thing happened. My sister. I said, you watching a whole with you to get to say episode. My sister comes into my room at eight o'clock and now it's like, I believe it just looked at me. Why did you do that? What happened? You know what happened. What guy? Now I ask you, guys, do you think that the Manga cared inspiration from Harry Potter when she incorporated the Philosopher Stone? Because I sometimes wonder that. Obviously, Phloso studies not be new, but it's like a key. I was like, ahead, though, I don't think so. I think so. How doubt it. I don't know what you make completely that it could be separate, but again. When did philosops talking about it? When did Harry Potter came out in nine and twenty two. My Harry put in the floss of stone. It came a one thousand three hundred and ninety in the night. Is S for shock came out in the s and the film in early two thousand. Think the film came up two thousand and two thousand and one. Maybe, I think two past the wonder film came out, but the philosopher's stone book came out and I think was on thousand night, hundred and ninety seven. Yeah, no, no, so I think around that that time. Yeah, may be wrong, but yeah, yeah, because the only reason why I don't think so. I just think that men car has just a great understanding of history, especially European history. From from what I can tell from you, the enemy and I think she probably drew inspiration from the things that thirteen century, the philosophers stuff that even back then. I don't necessarily think it's that is directly link to how you part. I don't think she probably took it from and thought that, because I remember reading. I was at oh Pluso was staring and I don't I could do like comparison to what Hary Potter. So this is really where I thought there was perhaps a link there or maybe inspiration down there bound the way...

...where she created the Manga. I mean, never know, it could be, to be fair, because you know make they get. Everyone gets inspect from different things, from different yeah, life. So I won't I wouldn't be too surprised if she she did, but I'll be. But yeah, yeah, I don't know what else to say. Yeah, I want to ask what any moments in the series where that kind of took a moment texted out to you, because I remember the moment where, and as an our learn that Isumi had lost her child by trying to do exactly the same. Yeo, yeah, that for me I was just like, well, this is actually really good moment because it not only showed that first of we kind of just showed that the student and the t taches had kind of gone through similar kind of pass and similar steps. So that stood out for me. Yeah, I get agree with you on that one, because it was they both shared the tragedy is search up, because it is only did want them not to ever do it. And you always when I first was him, I was thinking why is she always like maybe coping my blood? What's wrong with it exactly? And then, you know, when she found out, they did a human trying to be take and then they realize, I mean she she did as well, because she's missing organs and stuff. That's my motor star. I think a lot of moment that stood out for meals when must mustang at very must and I said is you know the speech was given when after Hughes uses fumeral like say how many we exactly said something like the rain, it's a nice day for it to be raining. Guys, like it's not raining. Everything says, yes, it is insunny, set it stop falling. Yeah, that was an emotional moment. But because, yeah, the rest in peace, hues man, rest in peace. You know what's funny about that? Like I thought I was a great moment. If then we get friendly who boldly saw days literally shaking and all of us thinking that, Oh shit, he's emotional to one of the one of these colleagues have passed away. Yeah, then we later find out that the reason he was shaking was me. Was Because, you do, I was crying and he was fed up with it and he had to hold itself back from attacking her most all. You fine. Yeah, that was crazy. You know, you have forgot. That's a good point. That's a very good but it was good. That was good. That's a good one. That she that's a good one. Bomber, that is right lid, but it's a good what I forgot about that. Yeah, but Robley's amongst the we know. Yeah, rally is, I would I think. The only thing you should like some cut, little bit of compassion for his probably his wife. But apart from and that was small. That was that was very small, even though you're right, was very small. But I, guys and monster will stopped rap really heard was a really good character, raps. It was really a good yeah, I agree with them, the fair as he said, all of it. I don't I can't think of it a bad character at thinking about I can't really think of a bad character in full metal brother, can anyone, because I can't really think thinkball character that back I did feel like there was some characters in the series that they were introduced a kind of off play and it will introduced it. It didn't, they were introduced. It really add much to overall aname. So I believe there was a character called what's her name? But there were, I thought there was. I think it just goes out to the point money had made earlier to say that we don't the focus isn't solely on Eddin and I don't know, but you kind of get an inspect some of the other characters that kind the full part of that world. There was some case is I found it. They just do re add much that they're overall jenuine because at the end of the day and in our the protagonists. Yeah, but it didn't distract from them. Having neck them, they're either as well, but it's just to say that they're. But but I can't remember them up. My head just shows that I just felt it its they just didn't add anything to the series. Fair enough. Fair enough, you know, you know you're fair. Yeah, but if you keep saying, although I don't are the main protagonists, but it was most it all spread out the whole story not to feature more than just them, let the whole cast around in the whole the people around them, their friends and enemies, every shoe fell, building together to the end plot which, yeah, even at the I thought when I was watching like those final a couple of episodes. When that the final show down a five us. We can wait put farther, put it off as we can add. Is it? All the souls are gone? It's really this can't be. They must be able to rest in them. You know they it was reversed. As with our chemistry, I think the whole even if found everything leading to that final show. I was good, mom even even you see this. The brothers, the sacrifices even our funds gave, is so lot, so so it's broken. Get his arm back to defeat for essentially...

...it was all good to say. And then that's just about to get onto that as well. You mentioned in that and obviously it's got my brotherhood, and one of the things that else told about earlier is that that is such a key theme for me, just the Brotherhood, and I've never seen like. When I think about sibling bonds in anime series, I don't think as any other kind of strong Silbon like. I don't owls and other series like that. Yeas agree, I don't. I can't agree. Come to mind that is that strong. I'm trying to think and I can't really think of yeah, I can't really think of either. That's PNU in like Generale love, like, yeah, team brothers. Yeah, I can't think that one. You See. Yeah, I really can't think of long because you saw the love that they've those two had fooch other all the way through out on how they willing to do for each other. You see exactly even that. There was even moments, you think, because you saw our funds even, I think, from one of the another. There was another would even call how because there's another member back when, I think was the butcher's name, when Domble, I can't remember his name, but he tried to make emate olphns think that he may not be actually real or something like that, or con video for Oh yeah, yeah, and then that you see the conflicts the brothers had at times, because often sporty wasn't real and Ed just, I'm had in there and ED, you know, and then Remb we had to slap some sense inti. It's to our fans to see it. Will do anything, you know. And then you see they may have a WORP, but they always of each other and they're doing if it's for each other. Ed's main goals just to get his brother's body back. Yeah, to to the Menga car, but adding that pot. I do appreciate. Have it seen conflict between people that are about chather, because he's not everything, every's not every day rulesy. Yeah, I showing conflict, especially harbor for the story, and that adds to the bond that they have, especially what the conflict is all what m but sorry, only you got to say something that I was agree I agree with you there. I was just really going because at the end as well, and even just gives up, you know, not being able to use aurum alchemy every again, which it was you didn't care about, which is what I mean, as if he gave that up so he could get his brother back, his brother's body back. Yet, like I said, win together, anything to help, and he the fulfilled his problem, this promise to get his brother's body back and it was never gonna that, which is he saw as well as although you saw the main plot was just it was stopping far with really was. They did come and get their original goal, getting his problem bloody back, which was the shoot from the get go. So it was nice to see but, as you said, not every things rosy. I like to see that they're going to be things where they fall out, have conflicts because you know, you know, sidners don't know things Ze said. May You know, you may love you Simmons, and maybe times you fall out of things and stuff, but you always, you know, there's still love there. And Yeah, it was just nice to have that keep going. They had that thing keep, let's see, going. Brothers keeping out for each other. They may fall out, but they always do anything to help each other. Yeah, that that scene with and we've Ed and the truth where he says that is willing to give up his alchemy yet or to get his brother's body back with kind of poll out opposite to what father had a conversation with the truth. So yeah, yes, you're right because, yeah, I remember that. The truth, said You, because I'm a common with the truth. That's you. Continue for the coming with the truth service. I can remember the beating, but I just remembered that. The whole thing work that farther was basically like, I haven't done nothing wrong, I just wanted to gain more knowledge and and just learn more about the world. And and then the chief or as sets up along the lines that that. That's that's that's pretty much your issue. Like, instead of used to be satisfied, we've been a UN being. You just kept trying to get more. While we while we've, we've said. He was like, I'm willing to give up alchemy, I'm going to give up my understanding of the world. And the truth was like that's the right answer. Yeah, that's the right answer. And then also, if you run back in the first few episodes, when Ed does travel at an I'll travel to that country to so I just to find out about the filopers plot of a stone that the priests using. He has. He had some dialog talk about apartment, but what the DALEKS from? So follow me. But it's about a person that learns how to fly and and instead of being content with flying within if you were in his place, he decides to fly close to the gods. And it's talk about we're I was gone to the Sun and Greek mythology and chorus. Are you talking about? It curs something, it grew. It was Fine Cup, too close to the sun and the wings, because the wings were made of wax and they'm they burned and they felt his death. Yeah, and that's exactly what happens to you farther. He literally few too clock at the Sun. In yes, understand is knowledge of the world when he shouldn't have even that's what got...

...that's what essentially caused his definite guests wherever it ends up. Yeah, I do appreciate how it turns. It comes right back around. You Sixty. Yeah, it comes around full circle. You're right. I actually fully agree with you there. It does all come around full circle. You saw, as you said, the pole opposites, with father and your bed Ed being a ryots and farther getting Dr I'm farther get won't. Getting dragons is despair. It's absolute despair by the truth. So yeah, no, yes, I like how it all comes full circles. You saw all the different developments of plots, all the site side plots. That let to give it to for the whole story to come full circle. So yeah, Oh, and so I know that got fifteen minutes kind of pulling US got to go, but I thought we could kind of end this by briefly giving our opinions on some of the life lessons that are kind of blackly pulled from in for left for metal alchemists. Just ten. I won't read all ten, but there's a few that I wanted to kind of get your opinions on. So read them out. So one of the life vessels of all metal alchemist Brotherhood is back. There's nothing wrong with being greedy. So in life there I guess it depends for you being radio about. Yeah, I think we've greedis shows that he was just greedy and goes to like you wanted to be like pulleted earlier. Is wanted to have more friends, and that's some sort of greed. You've been able to have add more friends, more, more friends, moving like in a utal. But when your greed is is angry or harm and other people, then that's a different conversation all the year. Yeah, I agree with money that. The fact it's all depends on the group. What kind of greed. If it's where it's like was in Harmon said to other people of stuff around you, then I wouldn't say that's a good thing. It is. That is definitely is. Being too greed is not good. But if it's like it doesn't cause harmon things like maybe example, I'm trying to think of a sick things being too greedy about. I'm trying to think of so often to use an example, but nothing comes ahead. But yeah, grees one was his friends. You want to just won't have more friends around. You just wanted mates. That was it, which is fine, which is fine. Yeah, so it just it all depends. It's all that. It's the context of it really. Yeah, I agree with you, guys call. Next one is there's no such thing as a painless lesson. I don't know that. I don't know. You know there's no such true fifty on that. I'm fifty and that one was. Well, I think there are painless Listons, but I get with it. I guess it's some lessons are definitely painful somewhat. I don't think all lessons are a pay as much they were for Hurd the same. I don't think. Yeah, they don't hurt the same. I don't think. I think there are lessons that I've painless, but a kind of the way. I think I'm fifty on it. I mean I'm very fifty. Is Still on that one, I guess. I guess in relation to full our our commist, I think it's more to do. I think. I guess this is go was down to the law. Were going to exchange that. If you want a lesson, you have to give something up. So in regards to you, I guess. I guess to give me something up might be perceived as painful, godless as all it is. But this is just in context of COMMIS. Next statement is which is what I agree with, both FMA context and just real life. Is Hatred and violence only breed more hatred and violence. Yes, so the example hit is actually reference in the list. Is the kind of relation to scar? Yeah, he's very much driven by hating aviles because of him needing to take a vengeance for the survivors of these people. So it goes around. He's just, he said most of the series, actually just really angry. It's quite everyone. Don't see anyone happen, but it makes sense to the context of his story. Yeah, and then also in the context of the world. I do agree with that as well. I think it takes time to build up and hatred violence and it can kind of kind of have a ripple effects for other things as well. Yeah, I do agree with you there. One hatred invites three teaches the right. So you saw with scar as well because, yeah, you saw he um by Kimberly. His brobble was killed in this clan. He was then treated by you know, when your his parents and killed them in blind age and then also, you know, whenry was there trying to was gonna kill him, going to shoot him, but that was basically it's right there. Hating by violence. Bree teached and violence, and then memory chose not to. She chose you to kill him, and then that kind of scart end up. Eventually, you know, he gave up his hatred and violence himself as well. Yeah, it's tired and I think it's got a perfect example because...

...again, like the heat of violence, possibly putting a message, because he just hated the country for the end, that particular country for where they did anything. He never used that the Alchemy, because of that they are can be, comes from that country that specificaluldy conquer the country and its age towards them. We'll let music. But while he was fighting Bradley, he literally gave up the hatred. Yes, what a country, and he's okay, and and and ended up using and that country is alchemy that eventually saved its let his life, and he was really able to do that because he gave up his hatred towards towards the country. And I guess he's in your way. You repent, invented by by doing so. So I think that's another example. So very anyways. Yeah, look at us and I don't don't analysis. I love it. The pee and the last times on this list. I wouldn't read the more because ten this one. I think we will all agree that nothing equals the value of human life. So that's a description that came with it, says the our brothers had to then this. Don't learn this one the hard way, after attempted to bring their mother back to life, and then our force to place the harsh sheet. Nothink equals by the other human soul. Yeah, agreed, as nothing does. Yes, it's true. Nothing equals the human life, human soul is true. Our lives are really should be, priceless. That's what it is. I think most people should really think that. By no ideal in this world. That wish it was that simple, but it's not that. It is not res really not that simple, as you can see. You've seen all of it's true, to see every day. You see every day you see bull, Male alchemist shows it and you see every day as well. It kind of as mirror life as it is right. It does mirror real life as well. That that really should be lesson that everyone should follow. But it's not and it's terror and it's something for which it's terrible. You, like you said, we've seen it through around. We've seen it. We can name vary examples. We've had even for the last last year, so now as well. We've had, you know, a black lives matters from job murders in the US, but you know, police brutality even here as well. This's and you see all over social media as well. Human life should be but should be a priceless for it reality, it's and it's always to see that way. Yeah, yeah, you might have to think should be prices. And I think again in the contents of for my alchemists, it's a perfectly portrayed the fact that in our and and also issue my attempt to bring back somebody from the dead using Alchemy, but attempted to use the little convin exchange, but doesn't work, because there's no equal violet to human being. And another incident that happens in for male alchemist is when Ed and our comment with the goal, but end up seeing somebody give birth and obviously see the child there and they both amazed and the also really, I think, they're realized. Yes, remember that. Yeah, that is something that we as alchemists never do, is create another human being or bring or bring with you reming back back from the dead, or create something and to laugh. Think that just clearly shows that there is no equivalent exchange for another life. Yeah, there's at my question, all that money. I like that as well. You do. You remember more than you think you did, I guess. Any last points? We've always start shows, en off the episode, because I hope think of anything else. Just stop, like I probably and I probably will end up rewatching for Mel Alchemist, probably again, you know, because I really enjoyed it. To make a gonna make it a yearly we watch like maybe you know, may make it a really really watches. It's not even too much. It's not even time consume either. So, like I said, sixty four episodes on the half an hour each. That's not really time consumer. Can't consuming at all. Just hopefully it's keep netflix still has it. One keeps it on stood long, though, m because I know that I re watched Samurai champ you every year. There's only like twenty six episodes and I just wish for it a week. But if there for two weeks. That's a first few thirty two hours, if you want to break it down, that's thirty few hours. That's what sixteen films, films you can you can run from that really. That, which you know, is that if I really watch FMA, I'm going to have to really pay attention because I'll go to analysis mode. With Sura Champ, I don't have to think that hard. It's just like old this is cute or idea, because there's a lot of thought into exactly exactly. It's a lot of for and you can do a lot of analysis, analysis for, like he said, the different plot themes, the character progression, the character building, the world, the world and plot building. Yeah, it as a lot. They can take an analyze for there. But I'm still going to be...

I'm going to be watching. Definitely. Maybe me, I'll make it my yelie. We Really Watch. Yeah, I really enjoyed I'm glad I've actually finally watched it. So now that poll is watch FMA, do we have any new series? It has to watch now, like the next homework many others. I'm assuming you watch it called Gios. No, I'm not. Yeh, I used watch that the money's eyes. No, I'm not, you know, like it. I think, I think, probably will like it. Okay, that's the next of our watch. What. What's that? Is that watch? You like it, ever? Would you do an episode of that? All right, that's the next song for me to watch. that. I watched. Yeah, yes, like, if you like. Definitely. So, yeah, I watched all. Yeah, if you watch that, don't take yes, it is a little bit like. Definitely, okay, certain more help. We are many. It's just a bit more. That's it's not as great. It's not. I guess the themes in called Gios a fairly different to all my archemists where good years, probably more about freedom, live and yeah, revenge, control, yeah, controls all. Yeah, it's slightly different, but I feel like the weird that is it's really well, real is really well. You had to go to the looch is one of my favorite animations. A bit weird, though, because I watched and, well, I first watch, I almost did it finished cop if I like. Why are the eyes looking like that? So I had to pay only see this guy. I'm the luch mentioned so many places. So I need to probably should give it a good it's so good as a good if you watching too. I wasn't enjoying it as much of perse, but then eventually picked up against too fat. I don't homes stuff that slaws so slow, because I'll still watch it and I'll get event. Yeah, so, yeah, I'll give a watch. I'll give a watch. Sweet woman, sweet, yes, fun guys, I think. Great, it's a time to close it off. So, yeah, that's me as well. It'll listen. You listen to me talking about my first experience finally watching mental alchemist brotherhood. Thanks for joining us. I might as well place this off. So thank you for joining us and listen to another episode of for I is academia. You can catch us on our twitter, cut on Youtube for awesome twitch. Watch our streams, you know, if we get our games down, especially for between Saturdays, and join our discords channel, where we talk about all things game in the anime. And remember, you know, keep from watch out and until next time, by guys. I.

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