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Episode 24 · 10 months ago

Elitism and Gatekeeping in Anime || Episode 24

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

The cast discuss gatekeeping and elitist attitudes which can be felt and displayed in the anime community. Why does gatekeeping happen? Where do elitist attitudes come from? Dive into this episode and join in the discussion with the 4 Eyes Academia podcast.

On this episode: @abi_mulan @chrinkster @ponz_o @tudzdotexe

Hello and welcome back to anotherepisode of the fores academial podcast. We are discussing getkeeping ananimators episode and I'm joined today by abby. So Chris, what's up, I'm polyyou so before we do get into the main discussion. We have some news to catchupon. So first one being some bioway news, wethat' sinking, shit, byaway departures, put the need of theAntho rebut in charge of Dragon Hfour so gust. To give you a brief, except ofthis article, that something bather wild appersivejust happened at biwere as two massive Figures: Oh Cas e Mark Sorry go for it's a ful Si cor.They just e just tk theoe cree andican. I can even read this one. I go becauseI had another one. So basically gasy Hudston an mark. She I intoduce itagain. Then you mee it yeah go fore. Y and I'll speak on it. Okay call the farst piece of news, its someBIWERE NES, the headline says: Wy. We departures bit the lead of the antenrebe in charge of draving H, for I'm going to let fom me this so MTO Bi kids in Byway Casarton, theMark Dera both have announced e departure from biway. This doesn'tsound like good news, because CAE Odo new was the byway general manager and mark the riwas ee exeectative producerfor the new drugon age game. This the thing of case had some. Hecame in after the previous general ranger left, who was look overhedheading over looking over the and from reboot as youmost people know, Amfham was complete complete, not of failure. They've hadto completelywe build the game from scratch. Again he had the S had a load.O Development issues was only made an even especially in the Vellomo for fiveyears, when Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeao is Diouca. We played it, we played itbriefly yeah I played it as well. It was just ehad some good things like theblack. An combat was okay, but it's just like it was lackinin. So much andAsso ugy its because they bugaias in tdeveloper five bes only stap reallyfor developing IIn one itwas Al a complete mess, so they had to rebootthe game from the GROUNDUP. So then no this is the second person to leaveduring this from they call am from next reboot. So that doesn't sound good andalso, I said the Dragon Age, or this is a dragon. He Four, so dragon age is toproduce se he's step down as well so yeah, I say Bya Way, there's a lotgoing on in that company, which is not very goodbecause you gettin these two son, the parturs. It does service that there'ssomething big and that's going on. He Ando the Flock Wei, don't know! What'sHappeneng with that, complee, because they've also thes Asocialy doing aMassiv fix trulergy ethat's supposed to be in the works right now, but I don'teven know that's going to happen. It's just everything's all up in the year Chris D, You have any F. I know you canadd some stuff as well. Today I just thought: Anem was rubbish, it just got really boring and it'sreally it's really disappointing, because I remember playing the Betar a couple months prir before it came out-and I thought you know what this could be- a really good game. The callmechanics of it are really good. You can fly right. The flight is good. The game looks very good as well. It's just the loos system was just ridiculous. It's just making you do thesame things over and over and over again until to basically get nothing but most part,no quest really al. The quest were the same. Oring Goin a find this and bringit back, and I think after about a couple hours, you've pretty much doneall you need to do in the game and there's just no point playing it. Iknow they're trying to now sort themselves out, but if I was a developer, ut woul know if Iwas a publisher and I've seen the work that they've done,there's no way, I'm putting them in charge of you know a big Ip. So I think, as well with the thing with I think, there's a bit of like I thinkthese two stepping ot as well. I think, there's a probably a bit issues becauseyou know their publishers EA and he tend to be more about monitization,like he acimpacts, O, etc daggin and...

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...know, because I don't think 's all likeMegan is checking for basement dwellers, but these things still come up all thetime, even though it's like two thusand and twenty, so yeah think. The firstquestion I just want to like which everyone is woul have been yourexperiences with gatkeeping and it doesn't Hav to be personal. It can justbe things you witnessed intis a big keeping with an anime or anime fiundhim. Well, I think I think for me. FirstOnhe gatekeeping just tends to be a method. People use PUK barriersbetween newcomers and a certain type ofmaterial. Whatever that may be. In my experience I mean I started. Istarted watching anime reading Manga quite early on, so while it was stillniche, while it's still on the ground, while people only did it because theywanted to wasn't like a passing sor on. Let me just check out this anima on.Let me just check out Wat people actively derceiving. It back, then everything was good people always trying to convince peopleto watch anime at a time. I remember, but a lot of people just wen'tinterested as time went on you started to see the animy community becomes a lot more close it in a sense. So it's a lot morestructured. So you have you K, ow the people that put out anime content, people that discuss anime. You havepeople that I e, for example, O Manga the Clean Manga Ta Submango, some anime,you started to have different sections and it wasn't just in the wasn't justin Japan, nows in the US in Europe and all sorts as time went on. People started toidentify themselves. As you know, animy friends, you know Attakus or whatever, and I think it grew. I think, partly due to youknow, poyi'd say in the UK- definitely partlyDou to like the big three yeah. I agree: PROBALY DIN IN HA, big Teree, be freeand maybe Welli say tvzbes, most o the big free. I feel I ithin with dbz people knew it as DBZ,but they didn't really really Klow it as ANA tats tryeah. That's why I sayits more so yea, the Big Free Igree, what you said actually whereis with,for example, in the Ruto and Neeto Bleecha, one piece we popurly new, Oanime by then we proml and then Yo start. That's probably what that's, forexample, bilt my interestin eme as all the metre, because my friend had theBurun to Stopin, teout CDs and the Ruto and the big stack or see these bleevs.I burdthem I remember, was like what was someone twohusand? Oh sorry, not me. Actually, my by I, myfriend, I went to HSTOR Watston. I went to histor watch thim but didn'tHar to get. You know way, Ou to pay for a Linte tot service to watch them. Soyeah t a ', but what shit is bro Summer, but yeah hat those are the big thats.What really made me realize you know proper enemy and then I feel gettinginteresting to other things of enemy etcta. So the big three were,as Chris said, a big influenceinctolike. You know staring to get me into welland like is a TAM MN anime. I leave into Mingar as well, because I think itwas the routto before Shipa Din came out. beforeshipper then came out. I started to read the Manga, because Iwanted to see what was happening so and then that's what started giving me intoMagar as well, because I I realize I don't have to wait. seeths o them. Icoald, despite that, what's happening now, because I'm inpatient Ayeah, Ithink I was similar with me. I think wite a Nerito one piece of Blach. There was a large following in thiscountry. I mean relatively large following in this country, and I think it was like a massiverelief to some to see it now go an mation television. I remember seeingthe Ruto on. Was it Fox kids yeah? It was whatsomthing yeah. I no e Ol Foxkids, tots God slestistic o fo o. That was no. It was when I was ready, detict, maybe when M it may have been, I'm not sure yeah I may have been it mayhave been yeah. I remember seeing it then thinking likewow, like we've made it like we're here, but then around the same time you started to see the gatekeepers really come intopomision. You started to see people like. Oh, you only started watching itwhen it came out on this. I've been watching thit. Since then you don'tknow this. You don't know that you...

...weren't with us when we were gettingpicked on Bo Blah. Ah Blah noo running in the hallway, like a basement,delling yyou you and there when we did out us once Norweto run noseriously. That was a thing like that's when it started to properlycome out, and you started to see the massive devise between people whodiscovered anemy on terrestrial television and people who discoveredand Ima in chat rooms and on Mwyrang an whatnot, and I think where they attachtheir identity to anime so strongly like they relate themselves to animeMangar, primarily before anything else. Yeah having people come and say, yeah Iwatch anime as e Werll kind of they feel like it. DIS misses theirexistence. Yes, like a pastnal attack, yeah like what, but it does't makesense. Why? Wouldn't you want more people to be interested in animeanmango? It only helps yeah. I think it's like you kind of assered it alreadylike yeah people like that they've turned it into personality,trait so of just like interess a hobby they have yeahso, if someone's justlike has like a casual interest in enemy. It's like offensive, bcause Lectoday, a like this is my life lit. You didn't really get it, which is kind ofsad to think about Yo yeah, I think for me. I didn't really experience Gat keepingat the beginning, because when social media was UNON, so I was always had an anime charactor, some kind ofwherever on my ade. So I think I did follow a lot of peoplefrom animals to his heart. Early on it was fine. Obviously everyone wasjust enjoying you know the vibes and everything, andthen I think after I started being morevisible online. I had to kind of remove myself from that because, even if Ididn't experience it personally, I would see a lot of specifically blackwomen or for some reason I don't know why them getting a lot of like you know, people interrogating themlike, Oh so, you're intoalimet. So what's nottos MOM's mom's name, likeyou know, it's t is the dumbest inliteretry the dumbest questions, andif you actually think about it lot of black women, specifically don't evenwatch they have a Wireo, frorte taste in Animetan a lot of the people fromAnnito. Don't just watch shown an always into like Sesse of life Showjo.You know all the thrillers whatever, but I don't know it's just ever since recently ever since I became morevisible and I'm I've stare seen a lot more black women into anime as well,I'm seeing way more gatekeeping with them. Specifically, I don't see withany other received. Blackman, in fact, is the black mallass doing it me ton comenit was black menspecifically that Wasa Lao that Wexctso. I don't understand why black womenspecifically Ar Aketd more than anyone else. I I think, when you think ofpeople that watch any Maor intenedy things, people have this kind of likeimage in their mind when it's a woman, it's you know a white woman who hasdifferent colored hair or whatever I mean that's what I'm assuming ther therimages Butlo a lot of regular black women are intoanume and whenever we'reopenly discussing our topic, O whatever animal into, is that? Oh? Well, youjust got into it when net fixs boy out or you know, if, like it's just there'salways so many there's so much hostility or Justthey, don't ten'twelcome us as easily as they do any other person yeah. I don't understand the ire go tehat but yeah they don't face me either. So yeah, it's good, because I do I toFA. Yeah You'Reii've seen that a lot, so I don't see what this so wrong withyeah. As you said, Black Women Liking Ane Dayayou, guys e. You both watch awhole different raange of animes and stuff, but it seems like some people e, just Bote Dois t justtalk wit, Mos and just seem like it's such a shock or just put not just was it the meaning comments they dosome snide stuff as well, seeing some to probably try and use it. This thingO, I think, maybe I hea done me. Yo- can do this or that and try and eventry to get in this Tay Shameless I've seen some people do actually to behones soc this because ofs, because they madeinto personalty tray and not the hobby, and that's why they feel attacked thatpersonally, they actually feell offended when watching Oei. Just likeare you sick, Lik Bout E, most prevalent like ISM war, theyarbecause,what the Fuck Wen? It's just a show Le...

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H, vpo sow like its about Limi's, notabout you. People enjoy anime, because this that's a contee enjoys ly animelikethee. Anything. If you go to Japan, I'm pretty sure theyre more welcomingthan they areten people here that watchitg like a random lad from fuckingdon know, Brikston Kay. No, you GOI don't understand, like I really don'tunderstand where they get the nerve. I I really want to know actually want toknow, because I want some to because where do you actually get like, I needthat confidence oomen are watching it to impress people like me. Are you sick?Why why woul Ta evare its SA, because it' probably just start that you seeonbecause? It's always on a it's also in a Grande Skoll, because, as you said,not just Anama hapit happens, I so much different mediums happens in society.As well these exactly everywhereyeahothese people, they wanta sense of belonging, yeah, that's what they want. They want to Senn to belongin. They want to feel like they're part of a community or people that care forthem that they can have friendships with and whatnot. When things are nowopen to the general public, people start to feel threatened, theystart to fell out of place, they start to feel lost like they were before theyjoin these communities, and I think, when you really think about it, it is,is a mental issue and it's the mental problem that a lot of these people aresuffering from, because I don't see how, when you think about it objectively,you have more people who are interested in the thing that you like, which meansthere's obviously going to be bigger room for growth in this medium that youlike, whether it s yeah anime, whether it's games because think about it. Thisway look how loo, how far anime has come. Who would have thought that youcould have to avid readers and watches of enemy and Manga who have never reador watched the same things between each other? You now I mean back in the day,everyone was watching the same anniting Eah, exactly that the same yeah, and now you can have two anime friendsto that Hardcoe anime fends, we've never seen the same anime before I meanthat's how much choice we have Yep ta Eao had the watch formatal alchemistuntil like a week ago, yeah nk just aboutnever Seeyou Uysnerever, seenthatsnan epide, oe, WHA episodeme to ive seen an episode of Tha. You Ave, Bali think, like there's got of being arace because for years, because Anooyou just think of them, like you know now,theyr think now they fur friemd, because you culd look like anything andyou can have the same interas site, but we as everyone's Tgo Anerv, would havea certain image and now that's being threatened and they doll like we needto attack everyone and get keep image of them. That is a really reallybig thing, because a lot of nerds back in the day were usually seen as unattractive by themajority of society. So having an attractive nerd per sealmost seems like oxy Moreanto. These people, because people that, like animeand people, that like Aomanga and people who play video games should beugly. They not much because they thi they cant, be more tifacitid like yeah,be you guys, Ban Jim, we e Makeupdaes that mean we like less and thats hard o'd be shot youbes. There's people arespoken to even in the gym, who are astounded by the fact that I watchedanime. I've had had ITI've had it in the gym.I've had it at work. I had at WORSL mswesalso Ye yeahpeopewereNOTWR...

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...pofay I used to ive been Joni Hav abeenatcher. I can't do an Wk, but the fact that I don't have time to bing toush anymore. The reason why I don't watch anything like I can't I don't. Icon't consume something weekly like I, my attentions but I'll just loseinterest quickly, but I've always been a Bingwatch O binreadar bench and Ihave phases Ike one time I'll be into only anime. I won't read anything withwhat I won't do anything else, I'll, just watch, anime or I'll. Just WatchTV shows or I'll just watch movies read Manga and nowadays I don't have time to doanything. I don't know why. I just don't and that's why I haven't reallybeen keeping up with anything. I think I like to multitask Ot dos. If for like,I'm useless so like we, your fim, I do my lundry O. I can watch gorlfriends. Ido that fore enemy because I don't know whatto Dob, thatone thingout. I don't care whatanyone says if you wach dob your Weid Likelim, a big subfan like I watchdeverything supbed and that's not just anime, no matter what I'm watching eWatchn the NAL language as well. Thinkasat language, Wi, subs yeah, but anyway the thingwith anime and the advantage of animy is that, first of all, they aren't realpeople talking their animations. So so long as the DOB is true to thesub, at least there isn't really an issue, I think other is. I don't think everything as much indepens on the Shong fthe Yo can't conbe everything with some either yeaheverything, but you can convey as much and if you've watchd anime enough thatthere are some things that you get used to you get used to some of the drogesget ue to some of the like. You know if, if you've been watching it for a whileLi e, if you're inyou you feetust starting out fair enough, but if youcan watch an animy for a while, there are some things that you evenunderstand. The translation isn't translating it acturatly, but you kindof understand: Whats Wa, as you as you said, you'd have to be watching it fora while in order to gain that no Suggsti don't give a fuck. If you're anewcomer, yeah don't watch the because that's what you even get stopped onDoub lit you're going to get stuck on Doub and you're just going to think. Oh,I can't get into SOB because I don't have time to watch it bou up, but ifyou watched soge for a period of time like Andsan like it's, you know it's alittle bit difficult when you can't Wono task whatever, but once you getused to it, it's way better than dot that Ci'me sortof. He O everything. Ifyou watch, if Yo for a movie in Dogto, I'm Ariht to say you might actually beracist because Wai hear it because YH everything ha to be n, binostramas aNetflix and she refuses to read this suff. She always watches Aninaao,awkward, Timi, ipnds, a well ob thatshe's, quitewell done to dos. I feel like the Fulm alchemist ONS is GoglisjpanesesonikEnglishduis, gactualyoukno thats, better than the SB other than dravingBulzy, and then man, but w back in Oryou Shoul get ou. This UAIS BhblahI've grown up, WI'VE DOT WI with somet eneme yeah,just been a thing that I didn't have an ontion. That's all there was if you didhave an Yo knowsthin sif I had. If I had easy access to dubbed, I would havebeen watching thet. Probably you know mean I grew up. I grew up in Dagon busy,so I start watching anime onterrestoal TV. You know normal TV programs on theTV channels. All of that is dubbed all of it. Pokemon Bay, Blade, youyeardid't know: sleming was called Yo Sagi until I was in like sixteen. I,when you Naso, like yameyes it yeah, so I misjust mabe. All of that we watched out...

...in terms of convenience, there's no argument aboutwhich one is easier to watch. There's no argument and you shouldn'treally have to fight an uphill battle towards these shows some people don'thave the time to focus all their attention on e TV show M and for thosepeople tat might be helpful? U, because you can, you can send a text message.You can outset the door and you're not going to lose too much of. What's goingon on the TV show, Ye h were Isyeah yeah, whereas we subbed, you literally,Have Tho focus you're missing this moste entire of Japanese, unfortunatelyso yeah we're going to have to learn. I want to.I still want to learn but like in the meantime, but I think I've become less resistantto dub Dan. We go thou I've goten when I first got into Animalas, like I'mGoin to watching Sud, because why Witou even watchd out, but the order I get ohat least try out like I was watching B stars on Netflix and I've watched ontollike midway entirely insolved, because obviously I've just Gon Wach it insoudthat for Ol I reon I on the voice actors names for Tlike, the maincatters a only. We see what the English stap is saying and I think for a Porommone specific character, which I jus find the English worse will be goyintfor the carins voice in English. Wich very strange made the sound older thanshe like. I felt like she was the was the voice. Actin was reallyreally good, so I just sad not watching the second half in dub. So I thinkthat's what I do now. If I try out the dug and then like what was this I'llswitch back and forth just depending on like my meod but yeah, I thinkdefinitely was completely visisted to it. When I first I watch anme but tholdI've Gotn, I like call, let me try out and sometimes I'll listen to the DOB,and I just like no like I was watching a great scale. I Cot watchit inDephanese after watch Theningtistogiin, the RESTCO Iveli. I think it's I think it's Ithink I enjoy it by that casing. Er this batt o not but know you know whatits Abbe hasn't gone: throughthat phase,where Youe watched so much ub the anime that you' Now colfortable witheverything else. It's coming, don't worry just comin, it would never coe,but I don't think Solywood movies yeah session we've Bon with movies and eventhen wh n, when Momom used to bring the ki the cassettes that had the EnglishVoice Ervers, no matter how well done it was, I just couldn't get into theEnglish ones a ape because I anything NTHINGHESNT EIF. I know that there's anoriginal it's like unless I can't tell anlets, like you present a culture neto me and the DUB is done so well that I don't even know it's a foreign movie.A never told me, you haven't told me so foreign is a foreign, the cartoon I'vejust been watchinging it and it looks like it's an English wome. Then Fairenough. You you DUP me tat. You want Rut, but yeah I'll give ou a Goov goodxumple. So after some row, what language would youere saying m ave watched, itbut, wwhat language?Would you wa certain? IS IT Japanese? Yes anime? I watchin Japanese, eventhough Somemol Jactons Wor, even though someol Jackson is that for yeah I'still watching Japanese I'll check, howt the dog B, I'll still watch inJapanese, so you wull check out the Bob. Because, like is you Guy Saysajecton, Iwouldt want to see it Howi've seen it I've seen it I'm sure the other perfore o you can't compare Charlie mcsn,Charlie mwas, I mism dogs, Wa, no N, Lnono, tin ther was noer voice, ofwarecognizing that in Ay noshe'Sthee andhe Temno. I'm stillwatching the the sotwe Avi Watch it now. I want you right, Weli, like you, I be,and ten H eer but like I won't watch it as in. Ifthere's a Sut I watched up, you're just in ee is much I can depends if the DOUB isgood. I' watch er continue watching it yeah Il just take it out. It's a good,very good, thougb t I can see then I'll continue watching Atay, maybe to put teother characters. Okay, Youfe Thi Ujust, because of like how you feel about Sug,but you can't compare it Afros...

Jafpaneseva to Seiolr Jackson, itdoesn't come close and then, when you watch it youll see what I'm doing. Infact, Samuel Jackson's via is enough that, even if the rest of the Englishtub was not that good sared it it's no suffering s t trash what you have to remember, as well as there's ways, for example like a the Abridge series, Biyeah icwell, yeah WTA, a fantasticustseclips, and that is fucking hilarious. It just gos to so that if aDUB is done correctly, regardless of what you think the original riterscontext may be, the word Tet may be. If it's done correctly, it can be just asgood, if not better, to be te Ayocat knowin that part the like there's thatGan, because it's a technically it's a fan, work. It's not di! I don't know. Yeah youknow is, is fun work, but what I'm saying is that FROR Zompol Theyreallmsit's Gen to be a joke anyway, so you're not takng, it o like the gostories. I would watch the DUB because it's funny and not because I'm watchingit for the dog. You know I mean like no, it go soris God. Soris is a bad dubthat is so bad. It's Greadyou have to watch it that'. If you, if you watch alot of the upper bridge series, some of the dobs and some of the scenes areactually like. You coul see how it would be done in the original series,because the voice acting is so good yeah. I hear that Bas even that yeahyeah t so DD yeah, eactly they're, not just being funny they're, actually verygood boy sectors. These guys es is woice, ICAS, amazing yeah, and so, ifyou, if you actually go ahead and Gub it correctly, maybe there's a jokethat has that needs some Jepanese context, or only sounds good inJapanese they'll make a joke similar in Englaish for English viewers torelate with more. You know. I mean it's justs about how it's done. That'sall it boels down to for me personally, there's a lot of, especially in theearly days, probably because they were just getting any Tom. They can hurryoff the street to do dubs, Notte, Schang, yeah ofte, pretty much a lot ofthe early Japanese oily English tams wereterrible. I remember there was a game. I think it was puzzle, quest where the the guy he was responsible for thesound in the game just got like his son and his daughter to do the voice. Actinutit was like oh you'v. defeated me. thisis terrible like it was iuiliterally sounded like that, because thet just weren't voice ectors thatreadily available. Now we have Britn. We have western voice acting stars people whoare known in the business for Morsectin in Anime, who are actually very, verygood yeah. So it's just about the quality of the dub for me, persoally. I think on that not on this sanone elsehas got something else to say. I want to say that I think for me thereason why I enjoy subernless the storyis very, very generic. I actuallylike the Japanese parts of it that the Japanese droks, Japanese Humar, theJapanese, whatever, like I don't, know, Whayo a insihe yeah and it's for anyany foreign thing. Wherever for an thing, I'm watching, I want to knowlike the the foreign jokes sor, the I know in anyway at least they explainsome of the joke, sometimes at the top, but I don't know if you remember whenyou weren't like they would explain what this means like and that part forthat partner to exist when it's a dog it just it doesn't sit right with me. Idon't know why I just I can't enjoy it as much Ik. I can watch anjust a normalAmerican cartoon. You know if I want to enjoy it that kind of story, but Ithink for me it's the Japanese part of it or the whoever culture. I'm watching.That's why I actually enjoy it. I tibecause it's like ow when things getlocalized tit'sa Generatn ory like if its Lio Westan I sor, but Love Tho,appen anime, I watch is set in Japan all en kind of O. Just eminds me of Imight ov ace attorney Chris Bcausyou Kno. Obviously, theyre setting is Tokyoin the main games, but in the Licalius vetion it in California. So they havingto translate all these things over so instead of instead of Mya beingaddicted to is it is it? Is it rice fols for herwor Chool Phice bols she's, like ofsiceof Burgers? Instead A it's like aspecific case. I don't know which game him might have been justice, coral andthey made it seem like. Oh Tat, is like a village self for descendants fromJapan. That's just somehow in California, like kind of like littleTokyo, but more like medival, whereas...

Liv is your game is thit you justanother town in the suburbs ofoftenyear so like they have to like make up a lotand at's Im playing it. Obviously, because I'm a Reeno playing this gamelike a right Le figure out what w a the riginal was askin about, Sertin thatSES whatis Ta. What I be saying, yeah losing some of the cultural insight ina dog depending on how it licalized so yeah. I hear that yeah I mean what I would say is as much as dub has to be good suppas to be just asgood. I don't know if you remember in the early days ofnereto and Don'believe it that believe, for example, no like in terms just onterms of some a lot of times a lot of times that there'll be a line. You seethis Amanga, sometimes as well in early releases, they'll be a Lin and then inthe next episode at the beginning, they'll put disclamers of this wasactually meant to be. This. We've got it wrong yeah. This was this. This wasthis, so you can lose a lot of the joke or lotof context insub, just as much as you can in the DUB. At the end of the day,you don't understand the language and we're just going off the text that wecan see bare enough. We like to hear the sound of these people talking inthe foreign language, because you can kind of after a little while getting abit of understanding about the tol of the way someone speaks and what theymay mean way, nor what and whatme they're in whatever. But ultimatelywhen it comes down to the specifics, they can still go wrong with a sub and they do go wrong withand. Sosometimes you see it wher or dist is hard to translate this in in English, there isn't a directEnglish translation for this joke Bohblah. It still happens now, even insub, so I think go with your preference.Whatever is going to lead you to actually watch anime just go without,but if you watch ndobed Abbey will look down on you. Absolutely I don't really. I don't really. I Don'e Wato to e, like I don't watch enough doug for the way I was defending itabout just thinking a B se. That's why think Ahfreey yeah,I om, let's Rup it up yeah, so this has been a goeat discussion. Guys feel,like. I learned a lot about you guys Gowa W he say: Someon, aother, okay, yeah, I think just around up. I wouldlike for everyone to give me this spiciest Edit Andi may take before weround up. So he wants to go. First. Chris will have to go first Oso spiciest alitas, take if the CIMERA and Ark was too slow foryou, and if the NERATO was talking too muchfor you, you just lack common sense he's next, I can get next go sor. If the top five consists of battle.Shnon you cant at me e to Witein, you horizocors Inna. You need to Beke yourmother spaceman and get some taste buds. THAT'S MY TAK! If you don't see that dark, Conson art in hate hunt on sowill be comthe best ark that you ever read or even Yaul, see another Ma foryou need to get your head chick. Are you seeing a pan how the scollonly is ahundred Conte lie: IFWE AA in the Pemid t, let's get backto the for me. It's if you couldn't get into honestly. If you can get into one piece,then you have no taste but yeah. I'm just Goinna say that if youdon't like one pase, you have tho tase ir Ab period, ihav O, but in ODA. Itrust like absolutely. If you do not like one piece: You're wit, you have notaste. If you haven't read a Manga that no one's heard about you, just notanimy fan or Monefun Youlaktu. Sad, though, like I wouldlike to double down Anthot. If you only watch Belshownan Al Bout anime, you hayou. You need to get life like how y genres to experience so many tmorYlamadan battle og as well, because peop think, oh yeah.Let me just watch something e: The...

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