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Episode 22 · 11 months ago

Let's Get Psychological || Episode 22

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

On this week's episode, the cast discuss the joys of content that revolves around psychological aspects! That's right, we talk about the depictions of the psychological genre in anime, manga, movies and TV! 

On this episode: @Tudzdotexe @Estrella8_ @Abi_mulan @Chrinkster @TooMannyMan

So Hi guys and thanks Forchin, he endto the twenty second episode of the florizs ICADEMA podcast. Today I amjoined by Abbey: Hey tits, Hey Chris Yo money, Fello verone cool. So today'sepisode we're going to be talking all about psychological animes. We may getdeep into theirs, pobiten Ti and ther lanes. Is You know how we do it Foris?I can do Meou, but before we get starte o know that we're going to look at somewe're going to discuss some of the recent news topics, so let'St Dump intothat first. So, first, up Om use. Well,nintendating news is that Nintendo shuts down Super Smash, brosetournament for using mods to play online. So, according to the verge, the tornement is so. The TUPERSMASHBRST tornment is being canceled, followed by legal order, bying Antendo, so it's using Yne F, the biggest smashcompetitions and they might San Gen be shining up down. So I don't know what that means, but youNintendo Lot. You just gotta. Let me know like it's just bad. I mean everyone knowsyeah. Everyone knows how protective nintender is over ther Ip, like anytime like amod gets to be popular. You can just expect the lawyers to comeknocking. So I'm not surprised by this, even though it is appoint Thas more sad, I think weave an intendorth. Theyobviously really strict with what you can and can't do with their titles, butthey're also strict with their titles in particular. So certain things likeyou, know, voicechat those kind of features of stuff that they don'ttypically add in in the way that most people would like them to add IM, and I'm not sure I haven't seen thefuture that was actually modified. I'm sure it was something to help with,with with the net code, so to reduce, lag or to stop people picking certaincharacters or something on those lines, O Shor, something that was trying tomake the game more fair than it was created. But in in doing that I meanthey was risk. Getting shut down by an intendent. INTENDOR has shut down, see as Brois meleague competitions inthe past, just because they didn't want their game to be associated. Wi Avethat fighting game setting, so they always tread no thin nice anyway. Ithink it's sad and I think the intend on need to do better in terms ofcorrespondence with a lot of the fighting Gae community people who arerunning to ornaments, especially the major ones, and I mean hopefully theycan resolve it somehow and get it we started sometime in in their future. I never thought of it that way, becauseI don't know whether that's just like a fan thing ors, just like fom,officially from the intendo that mele o smash bothers as as a game as it meantto be like a competitive game. Is it a a party game kind of thing, but thatwould make sense as to why Thinkyo I'm not sure what sort of was it was itdefinitely Mele? It was Myle, okay yeah, so it Wif the tournament you' technically be mode in thetournament, because, obviously the game is game came out two thousand and two.So there's a lot of issues and things that they may have correctid bymodifying the game, but again intendo just don't want there.They game touched. It's happened, lots of times in thepast to be honest, peopleve always struggled with some Mush tournamentsand hostim and runing spashbost tournament. That's Oun, inten te was many, have oting to add to this discussion. S tend boys are here: Ight Ai, like Coolunto the next topic, sothis is from comic bokcom actor. Co. Kerby Morow has passed away at the age.Forty seven coming out devastating years for phones of his roles in Jagon,Bullzad, Iniasha, Stargaye, alantis and much more. The news came as a shock tohand you watched him. Voycs go koo and dragonbulls ead whole in Ninjago, Moroccu in Asha andsideclups in exent evolution. So I I wasn't personally familiar with hiswork because I never watched dagonbone English. So I lek you guys grew upwatching figures version, obviously so how you know. How does it come news toyou guys,...

...yeah? It was sad to me, especiallysince he's he was forty. Seven gas really Y, that's Ywey, tragic and yeah.Obviously I was miss familiar with him is the voice sorver Troa in thedoubleof Gundon Wing, whicas, a good job and as the English voice for Goki,because I cannot stand to Cooke's Jackinese voice. So even after, likeChiltood, when I had a choice, I t don think jes the dob just becauseof that so yeah yeah. I think, he's really sad. Yu She's one of those names,even if you don't watch. I Ne me to a great degree: THEEAC FOmillion name is Keby Morro, Youi, no intor, Shon, shame all those guys soyeah, it's a loss. So, according to the Animan US network, a new cocs projectis set to be unspailed on December, the fifth o a couple weeks to go, so wedon't really know much about what that project is, but I'm really excited tofind out more because remembering what the last upset is likeof the anime, it kind of gave those wibes that we would hopefully getanother anemy to continue it on in the future. So it'll be cool. If theannouncement will be about that. But what do you guys? Think that what doyou think they'e going to avail ow many seasons are there? Toit was two and they came ut the same time or wasthere like a big? There was like a big big breakof thing. The second seasonwas felt more of it wasn't a Tamska but forl like that.I fel like it was a bit separaty for the first one I tin it wasn't. I Thithere was a bit of a time. Interval wasn't ther, I don't recall by Mabe, because if Idid feel very much different for the first second one, the ending of eensporers pre, much concluded the the whole Solgo was going onf from thebeginning. Today and, to me honest hat, I was kind of happywith it endidn. I wasn't really inpecting for a furfor and the future of what was going tohappen to that world was pretty much left up in the air with the way theyended, but I was fiing with that. I dim we need to know what happened afterthat and now people going to live from ther on. I was s kind, O pleas withWitou inteobe far, but again, it's kind of hard to explain. ITBAT andstin thatspoiles es't they like a spinoff yeahjus, the oNe Land Yeah, was that base after the vet or the endof I'm sure they were afterwards. I thous, I think he oltenatey investingfet it. It might have been. I no had a different version of CTO and the person who was widing, the geswas was a different guy only watched season, one halfway and Igot fo really. I tried to keep up with it because e onSas Onoco gas is so good t, Sis, okay, but then I just hot whee. Am I forcingmyself I got with this other ship or my list so that log black water like whatback log, okay? What is iyour bet and he it to what Ofagam Younk SA to defend himself omyn. But from this annacment I was like itcould even be another spin off, like none of me won the linefor like a Mebougame, ohudon' care o its Roject Nyeah, I'm indifferent to it e hear was. Thatwas the anime for the spin off. It was just the Wingo Lif Tet was Avango. IsThere Cagas? Is An anime like originally right thereas, but this, but I spoonoff was that mningToanm, okay, I'm sure teis. There is a lot level yeah these, even if it startsUFF as an animator. USHALY get mangar adaptations, but an anime first call, O God Abou Everyone. They don'treally care about it as much as I actually Didit Jokodswanjus enti. Really don't like things. I don't know if it's going to be ananimati season three, but when there's such a big gap between the firstrelease in the second one atd, never really bangs like ever for anythinglike books, I os never bangs. When prison break came back, I WASL stupset.It was tre ysh CSES, a Breaka tretch Wen fresea, feeo yeah, but then it goteven worse. I e the trash it was season. Four past it was even worse when itcame back, SOT's just leave it. I think E. think ot of those things isusually that when they made they were product of their time, so they'rerelevant to whatever period of time, theye createdin and then ofsor that it just doesn't...

...hit the same e Steet, not not even justin anime and movie you seeing music as well. So that's the. How do you feel about it?She's like it the most excited for it yeah I like cods, I emember. I thinkthe reason I like to the most is because, after I finished watchingDethnot I was looking for something else and when you just Googlepsychologic anime cod cot gias, yeah tove, pronounce it always kept poppingup, but I can't lie. I didn't enjoy it first, because I found that, U, I think not I lookd so weird, so I hadto get used to it, but storyline lires, I Willi, was getting my life defnotetype fix. That's why I turnd the show. That's it for news. So, let's get intomin topic so today,episod twenty two Wen be talking on about Siatological anemes, so I thinkgreat way to start this part of the episode is, if everyone can tell me what what is psychological anime to them,what makes what makes at psychologic anime, I found a really good definitiononline. So I can't remember, I found it, but psychological anime is to find ananime when two ere more characterpray on each other's minds, either by playing deceptive games with the otherall by trying to demolish the others mental state. So I like that definition quite simplebasic, but want to hear from you guys. I guess to me it's Ante Anima that kindof like dells into the human psyche and tries to work up. Wy people do certainthings, think ways or like asks more questions, so where the linesare plaed in terms of like the heros ar the tacking, the SAR and things likethat, at's a really amorpis definition, but yeah. That's why kind of definans yeah? I think for me similar to stilit's usually a battl of wits and morals, contrasting morals and opinions and just in characters trying to youknow, impose their will or imposethei their feelings, their face onto othercharacters, be it throug for spirit psychologically,but it's usually a batter of like mental states in Anemy I find I findthey usually try and make ou think they shock you not in the actions. Butin the rationale behind actions and yeah I mean they. They just need a lotmore attention when you're watching those those kind of shows a GIV IT UNTER Finishin, I guess yeah. I think it's when you know you look at the mental stateof the characters, and you know their decision making is really important aswell, how they handle different environments and dilemmas and yeah. That's what I think as well. What about you? Manny sechologicalenemy is probably adimithat, Mor fomme person, enemies that make you thinkquite a lot about individual characters and the rorality behind it, stuff thatdolves into people's decision making andunderstanding how the brain works. In a sense, those are probably the main elementsthat for me to closs something as a sechological enimy great thanks guys and with that beingsaid, I really want to hear which are your favorite psycholotic, enemes and ewhay that, as we said in the star, we didn' Get some analysis yeah. So let'sgo. I just want to say that I'm a fraud, sbig fraud, I'm a massie froers. Ithought I watched a lot of SACOLOGICAANOMY, but I don't at all, I think the only oneswe mentioned codgas deafnit- and I guess I recently stared watchingpsychopass and I didn't finish it. So those are the only ones I've watched, so I'm fo Yo can skip me. o Ne got to finish SOM STBOOK, becausethe're recording today iisacually amazing. I wish I watched itearlier, like I tried to do a thing...

...where I watched the first ten and thenwatch the last two, but I dodn't even want to ruine it. I just don't know Iwant to watch the whole thing see how everyone's like stories develop, alltheir characters and decisions that they make. I wanted to see everyscenario and how they dealt with T it. I don't want to skip it to the end, tosee like the final show down, because I know I've seen clips of the fightbetween my shoity machinery car like a Shume Makashima and the main guy, and Iwas like no, I need to see the backloa behind that fast. It's amazing reallyreally good. I don't mind if the whole thing is about psychocoss by the way,so we can get into I'll talk about it. I don't wind. I haven't watched a single episode ofpsychofast and I was ninetee so wel upon lay here, wow, okay selling shots for pole is going on sort now ho doesn't watch ane, okay,but yeah. I thought I was coltred, but when I looked at my Anuma list, I'veonly watched like five or so unless there are advers that could be clossepsychological and is just thik not as black an white as that. SoI think I've got muchstaff by was Ou Filly Culi the racewhich I wouldn't have crossed the psychological Bu. When I looked oats, Ithink it is, is APRECAR, obviously Setishe Pon, you've watched, perfect Bluno have notwatched bye. I have so that's another one Yesi Mon star. It raised Wori Thi s at Star eraised, Ey C co, preoois thatnot definite not inoanother fraud, Sheber IIn actually know. First Time I thoughtI was going to watch definite. I reay know how everything happens. So it'slike when something's been spoiled for you, I'm just like. I have nomotivation to watch it. A'd Canto Litnyou can por psychological animathat that you know, and I think o I know how and when the main characterdies. Like that's, that's INRELEVART. I din't care how he da Mo sorry. Thewhole story was way more important than his death lies. Theat was just you knewhe was going to die eventually yeah. He knew his power with. You know that theevil must end at some point, but I would promise you all. I will watchdefinite, but I haven't even finished one piece yet so until I finish mo ASE,I'm not! U, ok anything to anyone so yeah. That's IT shocking rig away! Excuse mewow, wow, Mein, so so obviously r by the way, Coalready know it Thisi'm thinking of a Hashtag right now. Hopefully, money and Chris won'tdisappoint a MiG just del. I can be fair best ECcross to be fair, Redmentiond, cooe and definite O that ones that I watch forTeon sa Bo. Aoone nos mentioned that I really did enjoy it. I think he's aONA season to you wal season, one more so into V. Meseeme Sesin to is reallygood to I haven't watched. The third one I completely forget exist a watch, thefird season, which Aden to I'd never finished, watching Stensgate a lot of people mentioned a great was,I think it was the firstte episodes, and this is during the time where I waswatching a lot of enemies. I want and tha just got burid Onde jus O it then Ito pick up on what you closs goes to the show, as as ycologic anomy, Ohundred percent that' yeah forgot yeah, so I've WATC six, that was that's probably the firstpsychological enimy. I watched the same. I watched it. An Ou cm to reallyunderstand it, had to sit back and watch it again, AFTERWAHAONSC. Actuallymy uncle, who got me into like Sen, an animen animes to collect anima DVDs. Soyou had to Gooon a collector's eddition, an DVD lk yeah, I watche poon an JackonWolsan Saee. Let me watch ghost in the shower and I was dea to understandanything because I was like nine, but then i Wen back afterwards of the gameto Anima Ie properly, and I watched it and yeah so oes, the a few ADIMAS that I'vewatched, which I'm not ONI'm, sure I ficking clossit as psechological. Not Would you guys costparents tat as a psychological eney on there's a lot of there's a lot ofpsychological elements in your lis? I think you could. I think you can makethe argument for it. I think you cood Avi good. Those are the ones that come to mindthe man EW others ointhe backofmy...

...somwher for Mabe just haven't watchedane. Okay, I wan your favorite Chriss right looks like I kind of same I'm notreally O, I'm not really that much of a connissal. But I guess I've watchedmost of the ones we've said. I haven't finished that cood pass. I've watched all the ovesly we'vementioned, ready the ones Ha' add to it are probably terra resolence okay, so that was agood one that was to do with you had like was like genius, kids kind of think,like characters like ill and indefinite, so they similar to that,and they were essentially just going to carry out aterrist PLOP, and it just goes into everything behind that detective.Trying to figure out who they are, the other ones have watched Def parade. I think that's a veryinteresting one that was mostly to go with. It was like theofter life, so it's kind of it was psychological but titewas more of abattle between a personal person and themselves. So it was reallyinteresting. I think it got really sad at some points actually perfect blue, which we mentionedearlier sososhe Col, which is really really good. I think I preferred it to Paprika, tobe honest with you really interesting, crazy twists at the end as well, e've got hip Kaiji the gambling anime, which Il Yeah I'llconsider Kaji. I forgot to consider Kasi Psychological, it's it's Shownin, but it's weird. The majority of theelements in it are psychological oad, the decisions behind whycertainins are done, theral psychologycal between the characters-and, I think don't know you- could so coud Yeph WOICD ou done an aclass Noga.No laugh is AC Psychology Cup Psyhog, a cage that one surprised me becauseyou could. You could argue seen it, but I'm just Ijust don't put cakagoot Pakagory and psychological together, because I've seen some definitions forwhat they class is Sachologi panomy and it's playing mind games with thecharacters. So in that aspect I guess it can be class but is classd as apsychoog fanimy. If you search it o Mi think it's an interesting point:crase Bouhof O do kid. You sing hat or even though it's shownn has a lot ofelements of sutmag of enemy. It just reminded me one of my favoritelieseries of all time, the flowers of evil packing a Harnouh Mayou guys sawin Mi certain clips of the Animat of the Animae, because people were likesertain of it, becaus its like roade skating, Birat, Themanga, an what Amso.That's why I forgot it, but that's actually I' cassed the psechological asAl and it's atorn in, but it gets into really like dark. It's reallyn likedock coming, a vage story and Yeahi actually go. I don't have togo o Wut, I wat the BOM ate hit. Oh yeah, definitely good one yeah yeah. What else have I seen Yeah Paranoi agent? It's a weird one. It'sgot like loads of different opinions. No, solike perspectives, all of the same thing, all of some sortof urban legend, it just gets really really strange and I think it'sdefinitel worth wortune, but yeah pit, those R Rols. I can think of offthe sup of my head and know some people do closs Ara zeroas a psychological, and I can hear it a bit, but I think I'd argue it just- has psychologicalelements, which is another discussion entirely because there's loads of animythat maybe showing in or Maye just action or battle enemy, but have a lotof psychological elements in the story. I think there's characters and ar zerothat kind of embody that the ntagn but ack. I see why Peodo yeah, because youcould almost see why someone would castify something like huntrax hunteras a psychological enemy, especially with the current Manga. I coulddefinitely see why some would cass fother as a psychoogical we or for system o. HOW COMES...

BECAUSE I'm not! I haven't caught up tolike the most recent chapter, so I can't kind of come back at that, butI'm just thinking back to hunter anter as a whole and to say I'd, agree to the side.Extent that t there are moments that touch on psychological themes, but tosay that it's a psychological aneme. I have to disagree. No, I don't Fingocall it psychoogical Alaway, but if you as, for example, if Youse to take thelatest ork in its own and just put that out less see animatedthat and put that out and distributed that people would think that was apsychological enemy. There's very, very little combat everything is just cerebral everything so far in that in park, I'm gon have to catch up. Then yeah, I spprobably the best, probablythe best ar ye in the entire series. Currently yeah yea on be guys, arlisted or wellananamazs, ial dog. This is my favorites one being psychopast desperate and monster haven't finished yet, but fromthe episodes that I've watched up until this moment. I will definitely say thatby the time I finishe watching it, I will put it like Witr, my top free,like psychologic anymies, for sure USL is the goat everything Orrih. I need to storp collecting the stuff.Ever since we went to his exhibition yeah the EPENITION, I waslike ye o flecing when you Fini Tar a start start twent eth century boys ison about like colts or thisit's, really good, Firo sorrow as well. We sor aswell I'll, get everything by your sorrow, but read that one after on to aTom One, Sta, an your centy ways yeah but ts money, Wereo going to saysomething: Cit your failure, no gonna ass, Tho iemon, but totat Ol beforethat oumber. So, just before I move onto the nextquestion, I want to ask you guys when you think about psychological animeagenre. Do you think it gets as much I'd say like traction and andvuse when youcompare it to other genres and, if so like? Why or why not think we great tokind of get into that? I think sales ar a big part of it likebattle. Shonins are always going to be the Mispoplo of any season like Ebor,just because I think the appeal is wide, ranging enough is tess at the risk likeeven every season. Everyone watches the same like hangfol of Anume, butactually, if you actually, you actually look at every anima that comes outevery season, there's like twenty or thirt yearld, and most of them will bethat typical, like light novel and of Anamy adoptation or something of battleshoning. So there's a few stand out: every NIW, Agai youget you get likethat, stand out one. Each season, like I remember when San Kar, the ter cameout and when sycropats actually came up. Everyone was talking about them at thetime, but this. But the fact that you can like pin point ones like that showsthat actually did't get as much pretention the Battleshao yeah. I thinkit's just because of the demographic like young en old people can enjoysharing in at least generally, but the Tine cant be said for Matal Psychological. Do you think psychological like anime or Manga? Is it better to readthe my God than it is to watch the Anima? Do you think or do you not does it just depend on how whel it'sadapted yeah? I think it's about the adaptation. One thing I will say about psychological forl adaptations is thatfor the moist part most of the ones I know an I can think of- have beenadapted very well. Maybe it's because there's not many, but for the most part from what I'veseen ther alwas done really well, there'sobviously less action. They don't need as much in terms of animation. There'sa lot of still shorts. A lot of speech, I feel, like the voice actors, have alot of weight in the on their shoulders. They've got a big job to do when itcomes to those kind of of anime, because it becomes one of the mostprominent bits you can get away with having a crappy voice lactor in TherutoObleachs, especially Ligh, but it sems in terms in terms of a psychologicalanime. How things are said are very, very important to get statements andwhen it's Aus, because that's the...

...entire way in gof the enemy, think another thing I can compare thatto you is, if you remember, when the Ginjikocollection animy came out and it was so highly apated and then and ha he wasreleased. It was so underwhelming and it's a similarthing, because it's not oraction Packsenes, O Lik e scenes and that mostof it is dialogue and just like atmospheric and stuff. So I think interms of the sound design it was okayhen. You got that right what JusSas something about the direction of it, the production of it that fell flat sothat, but when I reads dudutois Manga, it's really atmospheric a you get scared but eadingit, but when ite was Adocteinto Anilal you think that would be even scarier,but the opposite happening. So I think the studios and the voice actors allthose things they could really make a break. Aodaptation yeah. I don't think they get horparanomy right. You know, I don't think I've watched Hor anemy that I'vepreferred over the Mangar, so maybe they're just yeah. I think jis in general is hardfor me to enjoy sinister moment in anemy as much as I do in mango hm. Could you imagine like, for example, good niht pump on I'm aliht? Could youmagine it's Juste amenbutoonted would behorrible. I caneven hearing his voice iin. I woul put a voice to him. Ididn't put anything to him. He was just a bid like I findy, imagining beinganimated moviein how they would go. You know just if it came out, I wouldn'twatch it think I wouldn't it would ruin my pressing experience. Part of whatmade it so good is those still shots. I'm a Gosh God night, pimping,psychological w. no, no one ever mentioned it. An we've already AI guess we're talking aboutpsychological mangasiter. We talk about both but okay OL wee ag about both Imean I mentioned flowers of Evi and I didn't watch the Animae for thatEverytin Wateveloo. All right. That is my list longer yeah Goo, no anima guysare just read mange as Goodno BMIN wot go. Yes, I'm going to connect that next.Actually, just don't come back to us. If you become depressed yeah that Eit's just, I don't get why he made it Sono sick in the head, Everythi iks se.I ricially had to read an interview because I want to understand why hemade it and he just said I just wanted to fuck you guys up and he was likehe's so he's so sickening like realing re, Fininto, Rice Hisse me off morethan reading Vangarla, no he's actually sicker, it's a redit. So I'm interested!It's really good. You know it is it's imagine you have a show whereeverything goes wrong and then you think you know what thingscan only get better and then it just get worse. Just this on. I elike itjust es on cut jems yeah ittens it was pesby sore than it was as well.Apparently was wok tobe like seven volumes, but he extended it to fourteenvolumes and aparty. He didn't he didn't like it. When people gave him good,feed, Bac Aus, then when he started when people start enjoying it, that'swhen he disliked it the most I love Himudemndd Dstruction, which I haven'tstarted. Yet when looks really cool Werse, is he gone, he's Dooit, soSolenin? That was depressing. His fuck as well, so Tsoou do thing about g. The thing is, it's, it's just a little bit worse, each time,yeah, that's the thing they give you a Besson, it doeslikethere's, no majorthing that keeps happeningslowly slowly. Ilici actually feels like it'shappening to you as well. I O just going through the same kind ofdepression that he's going through. That's what it feels like Ti is yeah.You Cant Your Him Yeah, you see him from a child and you literally see himprogressing. You know through childhood and then adult heard and it's like you,you fill his decisions like as, if you're making it he's he'Sdos a certainevent towards the end. I know you all know what I'm thinking of where it happened is Lik, a double pacespread and you turned the page. I was like hang on, ther bat okayit, reallyshouldabe surprising, given the way the story was GE was like Nohe, did it? UGthing, and I was just like my hart- was so heavy but, like I'm almostfinished, so I doesn't keep Becausei. I somone Wono you a dumb ar so everysingle day for like to years every cap...

...that Firstisi O that bad, but by thetime you get the end of it, the Damces don't usehe the papsg yeah w were for ID. Tever comes out,Aime Dont, even bit's, really good. On the E end, I would recommend flowsinEVO as well noon. Yea is heavy as Impin, but still in the same kind of likespirfit is a showand. It's a coming, a bage story, but it does if the whole,like selt loathing and to make psychatric disorders and things likethat, it's like like. What's it called, and what's that,what's that, what's it called in Nike Fiction when you a D unreliable inherator Oll that kind of stuff, oh Reallyyeah, ieleven volumes? Are you even look back for reference? IDon O takeit cool next point. What I want to know from you guys isbecause you were all because you all watchd some PSYCHOLOGICA enemies thatwe've, U know enjoyed and disliked. Have there been any particular themesthat have been that kind of struck out to you guys that you enjoy seeing whenyou watch sychological animies? So, for example, one of the thimes that I'vdliked to see which but particularly Shin Ind definite, was all aboutmorality and kind of a conflict around like seekin justice, and things likethat. So now how an I definitel like was right people's names and he thoughthe was doing a good thing and it kind of make ITA question and kind of think.Okay, he's Dong. His is a good thing, but is it right and should even bedoing it and there's the kind of things that I've like to watch a? So whatabout you guys? I think I like similar to you, I likeit when I can watch an animat and it's like it's not being speened Ed to youlike. Oh, this is who you're ment to root for, and this is the bad guy,because I think in hindsight that's what I found and underwhelming about raised wasn'tthe main reason I just felt, like certain characters were just lutdevices yeah and their main chapter was just too competent for whatever reasonhe was like anobody there's a bunch of plot hoes. By Timesyou fet me reach the resonution, with the antagonist it Ol just became reallypredictable. Like was like a gradual thing. You just like sayin. What you dowhats 't happening then happen exactly how you would have assumed so yeah. Ithink I haven't started psychopast yet or Terrim resinents, but just on ThiYnopsis, I feel like the ones that would hindle tat a lot more CAE Sydneyand I might enjoy it more and also once a bit more abstract. Likethe PRECARD. First Time I watched it. I was like. Oh, I really rish. I enjoyedthat war but yeahway over my head, but I went back to watch it again and Ienjoyed it a lot more. So I think yeah, there's ones where it's just kind oflike it bluws an lines etween like realityand like whatever goes on in people's heads, enjoy that more and yeah HMO thng thati enjoyed about sorry one thing: injyed abouts wasquestioning whether you have free will or not so anything like that is mydruck, so yeah I really enjoyed that. That's one of my favorite things yea, similar to what I still said. I doenjoy the anemeo questions, morreally wheter, something ever something's goodin evil or if they such things and things that look particularly thingsare lookingto the Greay area of those things, but also somethingthat like is the God complex when it comes to psychological enemies such asobviously Cero and andluge, to an extent where you thinkthat Youre, because you have this amount of power, that whatever you do,should be absolutely and I sunu should have, and you should be able to controlagueis the outcome of of the world just because you think it's right to do so.So the God God complex within enemy charanters in sapological enemy is butone of my favorite concept. I also really like coming of agestories in psychological aneme. So, like Idon't know, Nyon else is watch fely coly. I think that's like a texpick exampleof that Hi's, basically everything's an allegey to somethingelse like it. A teenage boy he's like growing up and going through everythingthat he ways get through, but there's like an alien invasion and is othershit that he has to like contend with,...

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