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4 Eyes Academia

Episode 8 · 1 year ago

Multi-player Games || Episode 8

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Many of us grew up playing multi-player games and continue to do so today! Chris, Manny and Ponle discuss their favourite and worst multi-player games and explore the future of local games as the popularity of online gaming continues to rise. Listen til the end, as the cast share their opposing views on the takes made in Ep7 about the Big 3 anime!

On this episode: @toomannyman @chrinkster @oluwaponz 

Hello guys, welcome back to another episode for as academia. My name is Manuel and I am here with Chris. I'm hollow. Today will be discussing some of the least used us been happening within enemy and gaming, and we will also be discussing multiplayer games and something you probably have played all you've heard about. But first we'll go with some news round up with Chris. Cool, cool. So what's been happening lately? I mean the first thing to talk about is the thesa announcing that both doom eternal and the elder scrolls online are going to be coming to next Gen consoles, and I think obviously it's it was quite predictable. But I think the major thing is that if you own the current versions of the Games, you get a free next Gen upgrade and Patas the seemed to be committed to provide in free upgrades. You know from people moving from this gen to the next. It's quite big. I don't know you guys think about that. That's good. I think that's good. To be first, I'm not going to Fou the first off or what actually, because they've they've done a lot of things wrong recently. That's a they're doing anyway. But well, things have the done recently where, let's go back to pull out some six and wide the failures of pomp, failures that they don't with that game. Game was being Bargy to use. I think they used a bold because they based off a few former game they use and it that gaves been so easy happable. From that, they did their full was it full out? First charging fifteen pounds a year. Just feel like minis. Fifteen pound a month. Actually, sorry, just for like a month. Yeah, they're doing fifteen pound a month just to like small sat updates, et CETERA. A lot of the first has had a lot of back lesher. They just had a large, a large volume of Buggy Games, man, just unfinished games, and if you're going to pay full price for a title, it makes sense for it to be finished, you know. Yeah, I wasn't say the fact that you pay the full for what you play. Paid for a full price game like that. Then on top of that, you know, have to pay fifteen pound a month actually, just to give yeah, but I mean what I will say, especially about doom internal is that it was a very highly rated game. Yeah, it looks really good and it's got a decent following elder scrolls online. I wasn't too sure about how well well it was received when it first came out. I think they've made quite a lot of upas to it and I guess by the time it comes on to the next Gen consoles it will be, you know, mostly finished. Yeah, true. Actually had aval schools one. I just played it for a little bit. I'll stop playing. Was it was it? Was It free? No, I cad it wasn't free either. I'm not paid forthing because it was like I wouldn't come out. Originally. Wasn't twenty sixteen? Maybe, yeah, but yeah, I had richly dead. I played it for a bit of a few of us as she had the game, and then I just we just stopped playing. The Long Time Street F our producer, Yoshi Nori honor. He's going to be leaving capcorn and I mean I don't think people realize how big that is. I think he's been with I think he's been with Capcorn, Capcom and street fire for like what's thirty years maybe, and he's overseen what in thirty years? That pretty much covers the entire the entire generation street fire. I think that might start from the first ver first, the SEC second at most. But he's been there since, you know, the very, very start and I think it's quite sad to see him step down. Imagine having someone who's been such an integral part of the companies just, you know, leaving quite suddenly. But I guess it might mean better things for the next iterations or street fire. I know ste fight five is basically on its last legs. I think by next year will well, maybe, maybe the end of this year, but next year shoot fire five will essentially be done. I think that's when the last DLC has been announced for. I mean it'll be interesting to see where they go from this a reason? That's the way he was resigning. Any rumors around it? I'm not too sure. I don't I...

...don't think there was a reason. I remember there was like some criticism with regards to how the Cap Con Cup was run. Yeah, the the pro series, the Proto on circuit, how it was run. I remember he had a couple issues, but I don't know if he had any major issues with regards to the actual game itself and the core mechanics and you know what the game stands for, but you know. I mean after thirty years, I'm sure. I don't think there's much more he can he can really do that he hasn't done. He's really achieved a lot. He's, you know, cemented his place in history and all the best to him. Next bit of news. Suicide Squad game. So I think there was it. Was it just a single image that was released? As far as I'm all yes, haven't seen no clips or videos in regards to it. So I really have no idea how the ums going to be played or or anything about it. I bought flom and that single image. Yeah, I mean you got superman looking quite angry in it. I've always been a fan of angry superman, or evil superman, to is should be. And even speaking of that, I've seen also, literally I can that's come up an hour ago with the can kind of relate. All, a brother's game in division may not be for self actually. Oh Wow, yeah, that's strange. Well, I wonder what change their change their mind? Yeah, I was just see, I just chally seemed that come up up when I looking my Dune, for example. So that may not be for so. So may still on beyond stay one of brothers. Yeah, I guess it was here. You know, it was out for the fans. Is it DC fandom that's going on right now? Yeah, yeah, I'm not sure how long that goes on for, but I guess it's probably to be appropriate time to have you show some sort of a teaser then if you guys seen the film? Yeah, I've seen the film. Actually, actually haven't seen in the film, so I know very little. That's suicide squad, the one that came out a few years ago with locker, Robbie and will sell. Yeah, that's sure. Yeah, yea, I see that one. It wasn't. It's not something I watching you. Yeah, yeah, I think it's the evil like way it's. So I know that the same people that made our coup night and Batman Games are making the Air Robert. Yeah, yeah, the studio. So I think that should be good time. I played two thousand and fifteen version of our come night. Yeah, yeah, these are good. You think it's a very good game? Yeah, I enjoyed that game very much. I love the game. Actually, Rock said, you have a good track records, to be fair. Of they've had a good track record special for Arkham series. So I have faith this is going to be a good game as well. Next Bay of News. Promise Neverland trailer. Live action trailer. Yeah, quite interesting. What are your thoughts after spoke all because we literally did speak about you. You did mention this as well, that promise the Neverland, about possible make it and the depth my Ada patient did in our our pudding will talk about. I've adaptations. So yeah, look what's come to pause. I've never actually what or read the men for promise Neverland, but know the premise of it in never actually seems like something that I would enjoy to watch. I wonder how grew some plan to make it all. But yeah, I'm looking forward to it. I don't really look forward to you live action enemies or mangners, but this is a hope will turn am I mean for me, I've I haven't watched it, but I've read it. I mean it could work in theory. There's not too much in a way of crazy, crazy effects. I mean the only thing that's going to be it's going to have to have the effects are the monsters. I can't reme what they're called in this but yeah, the basically those that the monsters. My thing is I'm just looking at this little poster for it and the main three characters look so out of place in comparison to all the other children. It's just a bit it's a bit weird, like it's like the kids look like kids and you know, I remember their name is Norman, Emma and ray look like you look like young women and it looks a bit disjoind but you know, we'll see how it goes. I guess when we get more, more footage, we able to have more of an opinion on that. Holder the meant to be in the mango. I'm sure Norman was about nine or ten, so around that age anyway, around...

...the age of about nine and ten. Yeah, I'm look at a picture. No loops, different looks a bit. Yeah, every much both. You know, special effects. The might Ma look good. I will do the news round up. Manage on introduced top it. So today's topic we mostly talking about the multiplayer Games, games that we played before, Games that we are looking forward to play in the future and yeah, just discussed as a whole. I guess we can call them someone important games, right. Yeah, yeah, I'll be description for it. For like recently some of US started playing and full guys. For me personally, when I first saw the game and you want to play straight away. I know, I don't know because it's one. It's funny enough, like I don't really care much for in general when I play that story based Games. I don't care much about colors or or having great visuals in not really something that are goalty for games. Not Saying that for guys. I like amazing visual but it was like really caught off colorful and, you know, really seem very chaolic. It's slightly reminding me of sporting in some ways in regards to you, how a mess again can be. Then, when I first saw the images of full guys are for sit is similar and where people describe this similar to you, royal rumble, and you can play with a bunch of strangers and some of your friends, it definitely got me excited for it. I do love a good part of game, or any games they can play along with your friends, most of the musicular conversation and discussing where you're playing the what about you, guys? I mean I haven't played it, but what are your what's the game like? First of all, that I don't really know anything about it. Well, you know it's describe it. They basically it's about a world game. We can free it like that, but I kind of compared, you can compare think of it like to CASS's castle as well. That's what we guess to describe it. It's very much like a game showing where the last one standing wins. The wins the game. It's got all the different types of Mini Games somewhere, team base games, etc. So a lot of our races to finish you got some memory am the game, for example, but it's just the chaotic fun. It's actually a lot of fun playing off you. Forul he based. You're in you most times it's like staff of sixty people and depends. It got to like five rounds, depending, but they aim, you know, you trying to eliminate each round the certain amount of people going to get through any keeps going down. So you have lost and I said last understanding. I think, like said, it's the best basically describe. Is like a game versions the case he's castles. Another thing that I really do jo about it the game is the variety of the different most that you have, like Monamentar, that there's some team based games. One of them was he's literally football, you licks trying to put the ball in the back of your oppositions goal and you have to do it as a team. Will be games where you're running through and wolves. That is very reminiscent of the kisses carsole. And you can grab people. You can grab people setting down, you can you can throw them. I believe I'ven't done it yet, but you can grabbing for all people. Yeah, so there's a bit very different games where you can play loads of different modes. So it stops you from being bored a gets and you don't really know what the next mode is until you get there, which keeps things a bit interesting. Yeah, also is also the say as well. The Games aren't long either. The like probably a few minutes each game. So that way, yeah, it's it will keep you engage and even if you if you get eliminated, you can just you can spectate to see who wins, or you can just leave, just start off for another game. So brucially maybe you'll take it depends if you go away with the end maybe like fifteen minutes maybe. So it's not like it's a long time since but it's a nice quick series of games to maybe keeps me engaged to be my play it. Well, checking out and I might give it a girl. How much is it in the store? It's free. It's free, yes, free. Oh, okay, it's only on peace. I think it's only on PC and PSO at the moment, right now. Yes, three and the moment. So, yeah, that's it. Just get it, definitely. But would say that recently that did have quite a lot of maintenance problems, and I think it's because they didn't anticipate that many people download him playing at the same time. I'm not hundred being sure if they completely solved it. Now was working fine yesterday, of for like a deal or two. I'm a struggle to go on it, but hopefully the long along, the long run, will run to mee, because this indeed is an indie developed game as well, wasn't it? So they probably didn't have to say how big your how huge you'll get so quickly. So maybe that's why I but yeah, nice, it's it's a good game and I'd recommend you know, I'll give it a down like them. I. So what games? What more player Games you guys pending the moment, other than for guys splitting. Yeah,...

...yeah, he's just based between, mostly with the rest of the four eye gang, usual Saturdays. Yeah, like us, between is like literally, that's literally not the reason why I bought a switch, but I know that you tolds and only got it on release right. Yeah, I got my life three months late, or because that's when's betting drop. The finger dropped on in July and in the switch came out like in much or evil whenever it was. Yeah, and yeah, that's just testimony of how much changed with the game when it first came out in the WIU. It's like, yeah, it's a really enjoyable game, like it's so chaotic it's actually mess what we've all that said that there is a level of skill that we need a hundred percent. Yeah, the game and it looks very kiddish, looks very fun, but like it can be very competitive and serious and in that show when we play online against this random people whom all around the world and get absolutely smacked. But yeah, but like that's one of the multiplay games I'm playing right now, which I really enjoy. It's a good point you brought up about it looking like kind of like a Kittie game but having a high scale skill level. That's exactly what I was thinking as well, because it seems to be quite a common thing with a lot of Nintendo Games. I mean, if you look at see your smash brothers, if you look at even game like arms, looking at Pokemon, Yep, on the surface of things they look like very simple child friendly games, but when you get to a competitive level it becomes extremely difficult. It tends as a completely different game all together. Yeah, yeah, the skill levels for a lot of these games are high. You can use the word easy to you know, eas to play, but hards and master yeah, yeah, a lot of them are, because you can see, I've seen this tune. I even like, example, just watch the I just watch a whole videos on Youtube. See like all these a barts different techniques exception. There's a lot that goes into the game on the competitive scene as well as, like you said, smash, poke up one arms as well. Yeah, well, these competit to scenes. They really internal games. I said, they're colorful, you know, for kids as well, but they do have a high seen as well, I've learned, you know, how to play the Games. The best is and multiplayer games from me what I've been playing more recently, years sometime. I've Stum the gun for I was gang as well, and I play a lot of Monstner as well, because that's one of my favorite Moti player Games. Yeah, and one of my favorite multilayer franchises. Actually, I've played since once on a try on the WII, played like five different monets on the Games now. But yeah, I love that series of that game is all about. I mean you can play a single play as all, but that and one of the main big things of Monts on this playing with our people, cooperative as my hunting bothers, you know, come together to the same val funding the month, Star slayings, make more to get Lou's, make better weapons and then just repeat a luke grandma game. That's a lot of fun for me and I do play a lot of friends as well the game. So we have a lot of fun and a lot of band so when it comes to as well. So, yeah, I've come to realize games where you have to craft anything, I don't care for them. Why is that, Jenny? Could not tell you. I just don't. I just don't enjoy it. Did you mean? You mean games where you got a grind for stuff? Grind, but yeah, yeah, together, like getting specific parts to make a specific something. And I was trying to play Laura craft the camember. The full name of the game, which you reader so again, which to said, look a lot our cross shows, which to str rader, isn't it? Yeah, to me. Sorry, I'm to run a game. A chrome. There the full name of the game. Is it the one that was free on playstation plus a few mode? No, not that one or the latest one. Yeah, I think it is the latest one. I think it's shadowed the to radar and might be. It might be, but that one I was playing and I was ruining a little bit of any when you got to the point when you get even too a story and you have to do all this craft and stuff, you have to pick up this amount pieces of would this amount pieces of something even put it together to do x Yza. It just just got really long. And enjoy it. I'd enjoy horizon. So when you are will play monster and that's all that. Quite a few, a lot of you playing it. I let me jump in the playing about. We play game my friends and and what's a few jokes? That was let two days in. I give that game back. Yeah, you did not let that to them. I actually liked it a bit, but I think there was some I think the part I didn't like was having to like do menial tasks, like search for like things and amount. I know I don't changed a lot since I last played a must on a world, but I remember...

...got sick of going to it. What's that? What's the what do these places are called anymore? But going to the fields, the open fields, and looking for some powerders and that's or whatever, and I was just like you nevering, yeah, I don't like it. I was just like, I cannot do this, I cannot do I just don't have the time anymore to do this stuff like back in the day. This is the thing. I came from MMO background, so in terms of like a loo in and grinding, I was doing absolute worst than the worst of grinding and I was still managing to get some enjoyment out up. But I think a lot of that had to do with prairies and times and you know, as you get older, you don't have you don't have the time to put in for five hours to grind for a single gem and you need three gems to make your your weapon. Whatever. I just can't do it. Like I cannot do it, and that's why I tend to gravitate more towards games where I can. They're mostly skill based, so once I've acquired a level of skill, I can come away from it and I can come back without feeling like I'm missing out. I remember I stopped playing Mons on it for, like, I'm luck, maybe a couple months, and then I spol came out. Before I spoon came out, everyone was already a high level. They had sick equipment and I was just like, you know what, I cannot be bothered to start doing start trying to play catch up, and I just can't, and I just gave up with it. That was it, but it was it. I mean it was a decent game before then. I'm as to finish the story mode. I don't think it's not really hard, it's not really that long. Anyway, I managed to do that and I don't know, who knows, maybe I'll give it another go in the future. We'll see. What multiple of games have you been playing recently? And Chris Calling Gee? Yeah, man, I mean that's probably us by far most play game at the moment. Yeah, mostly the battle royale war zone. I mean there's just something about being victorious in this in a lobby full of a hundred, fifty people and being, you know, on top that. Trying to try to do that every time it's and using your skill each time to try and do that is always quite quite fun to do, especially if you're playing with a group of friends. You got work together. Small things can get you get your team wipe. Yeah, man, it's just really fun. The one thing I will say about it is that it is fun but it can get very frustrating. I'm very tense. Yeah, I find, for example, if I lose on SPLATOON or if I lose on smash or arms, it's one's most mighty player games. I don't really get that frustrated, whereas sometimes, well, I mean a lot of the time, where you die in in cod it's really really aggravated to the point where you're thinking, why do I even play this game? I hate this, I mean. But I mean, all in all, I do enjoyed experience and it's quite fun challenging your mates and a leaderboard. Who's doing the best, who's got the most wins, he's got the best skilled death ratio, all that kind of stuff is quite fun. Other than that, I haven't really I mean I've been playing a bit of street fighter as well. So I stopped playing street fight for for STOT fight five for about two years and I don't know, I think just having conversations about street fight how set fire used to be, just kind of maybe want to play it. So use I originally had it on playstation, on PC, on steam and I we purchased it on playstation fire and patiation for sorry. And Yeah, man, getting back into it is quite good. It's hard to play in controller. I'm going to need to get an adapted to play my stick, but still quite a fun game. So Fun game. One thing that would say about I'm coology because I used to play it with you guys a bit before, even though I actually enjoyed playing them. But feel like when we were playing online open against other people, of you playing against each other, I feel like this school gap was so wide that I didmit. I just stopped borrowing. I didn't see the more that you played, the better to yet at the game, but I just feel like I was so far behind in regards to it that I wasn't really enjoying it. Like you said, that when it comes toder. Sometimes I lease, I don't really care that much. Govern night will playing salmon run on US between Wei getting pamped, but was fine, like it was. It still joyful to play, but we COOLDO G. I can't really pinpoint how it is or why it's like that. It's like it's in much what you said is very frustrating in regards to losing that. I don't know. Maybe because it's a bit more realistic. Yeah, I think, I think, I think that might bit might be it. Or maybe you put yourself with it in that person when you playing there rather...

...than when you playing on s between you actually looking at your person rather than looking through them. That makes sense. I don't know if it's a combination of things, but I do get the sentiment regards to that. Losing on Coolog's a not frustrating and that's one of the reasons why I probably stopped playing it, because I just was a didn't feel like I was good enough at the time because the school get was very big between me and other people's meaning goes. Yeah, I agree with you, MD that was the same with me, because I'm not the best of us. This issue is either I think that because I used to as well, everyone as well, but I felt the school gut was too big and I think it's gonna but I just didn't bother as well call a g I mean, yeah, we play was this one, but I'm just not as great as I was, so I just didn't bother getting another with you. To be honest. Do you guys remember first multiplayer game that you played? That when you're younger, I think mine was actually shot right too. I remember playing she far tune the Super Nintendo as my cousin Super Nintendo, and yeah, man, that was that was really fun. At first we had to play it with to take tends to play because really had one controller, but eventually managing to get enough control. Lauren, yeah, it was like a completely new game. But the first multiplayer game I owned was Golden I double o seven. That was the first. Last Secok. That was the first multiplayer game I actually ever owned and it was hilarious because I remember playing my little sister and it was, you know, it's a split screen, split screen, like death match kind of might player, and we didn't know that we had to kill each other. Okay, so we saw each other in the game and we're like, what do we do? Where they hiding? and was just thinking, what's happening? There's no one here, is a game broken, walking around for ages not knowing what to do, till one of US accidentally shut the other one and I will realize, Oh, actually, women to moment to start killing each other. So yeah, that was sounds quite entertaining. How about you money? Not Too sure. I know one of them was definitely a Super Mario Cart. I don't know if it was the very first one I played, but it was definitely one of them because I remember playing it with my little brother. I want to see nice six, when I first when I first played it. I don't know what my or what my very first one is, but I do remember playing Sumero Cart and looking back on the graphics of it now in comparison to Super Mario Cart Eight, it's ridiculous read. This is different, different, but as remember having a lot of fun playing with it. Do you ever remember these when you use it? When you guys were younger, you're playing games, they used to move, move your controller that we used to tripp to the left. You shouldn't be still, move your whole body to the left at all. You know what's so funny? I didn't. I never actually did that. Yeah, I did. Forgot did the eve. I see my sister used to do it. They like myricis used to do but I yeah, I never used to do that. Yeah, I definitely see be like a lot of story. Well, I'll see. I always see. If you have played like a race against the first time I just said tried to steal the control like a sin doom. Real Party luck. You'll do big. What to do for it, you know, fair enough. When I went to a place, geme, when I was a kid, they actually had street fire to they had they did have a super internal day, but it was said about Arcade Machine Street for the street fire to arcade machine, and that's why I played it with playing against number the kids. So that may be. Yeah, that was actually quite fun. I'm ember that was just during the summer times as well. It was so they had, they had sot to keep us kids engaged. They had a Cupe, a few KADE machines street. Far comment the upper games, though, I think that they all said like a supermmer, saga, Maga drove. They had, I think they did as well sonic, but you yeah, that maybe my first memory of the my player game and the first movie player game. My own, though, was maracot sixty four and I had my when I first and I got money into the sty four for my birthdays because my friend who live up the road the other intend of sixty four. We had superintend the way. used to play a lot of time playing like Super Mario Worlds. They America hears and then, yeah, then sitty four where I played Yel like Marakr, and then I just love the concert out just get also, prayers came out become over and they finally got them on for birthday, like Maracot sixty four, supermer sixty four and two controllers. So yeah, they might have pair was nice to me. So my sister would be my sister will just play America sixty four. Yes, well, for my earliest with the sixty four came out of...

...the fact they had four ports for, you know, secretary, Cool player Games. Yeah, I'm because my friend up the raider to controls when I had to. Then I had another friend down the road you had as well. So we just as kids with this be together. Just they like Mario Car I think gold my came out the big Golden Rye. Yeah, and one, and there was always one. First I want to be up was odd job. Oh Yeah, I'm sure I'll job was actually banned from like tournament play and stuff solutely because that it was literally a cheek code using of job. Yeah, it was literally unfair use of odd job. Remember. And six was a good console and great, great consolet of my player Games. Yeah, what do you think? Your favorite ever? My mighty player game was splitting. Good show, good show, good show. It's definitely up there. It's definitely not there. The America series probably be up there as well if you had to pick one. Mario Cart game, which, when you pick him money who I'm not an tend to be black human so I wouldn't be able to tell you the name after battle my head off the top of my head. Sorry, I just remember like one of the courses I really like. I'm pretty sure they have the Rainbow Course in quite a lot of them. Yow Them. Okay, and then I won't be able to describe a probably done. So I want to tell you what console was it on? Superintendo, Super Bara, Card first one. Was it the first one? That's the LST one. I think I think might be that one when I really enjoy playing, because I was playing a problem quite a lot. Yeah, that's that's more for memory sake, but probably spotting is probably one one of the Games that had the most fun with ever my life. First withoute once between two feet was probably the worst one. Fifas Funny, though. Let's SCI PRO clubs. Yeah, that's only something I really enjoy. Feet has played pro clubs? Of the the guys. Unfortunately, I can't say it's the worst, because pro clubs is hilarious. Yeah, that's exactly what it is, actually hilarious. And then there's always beas off with this. I think I've seen some meames people doing on programs of this so funny because it's relatable. Just think, yere are, you missed the gold and you know you just got to one bus. This is an open goal, for example. Know, the funniest thing in was the pro clubs. Is when you know how everyone's ever was color coded. Ever do you ask you who's read? You know who read is. You know the buzz of Dave Out, the base being a think got bad to shine up the color. The color is a of his eye. Cod who's read the blend of Sasity like quiet. But yeah, people, I would okay if he was definitely the worst, but it's a horrible game. Yeah, Hun Kim, it's literally the Party check that makes people fun from. Yeah, that's exactly it. It's just, I think with fee for the just it did go down over the years. Speed for a. What it's been the last few years, isn't it that they it's not been as good as before they got the monopoly from pro when they went from Pierceton very free. Yeah, the preest free generation they got them mocky of pro because, yeah, I don't probably just fell off. But yeah, and recent recent iterations is not been as good. And but the thing that he a lucky that is people suit buy people, because that's some people know. SOFIE. Yeah, I mean pro still there. Prose probably been. Pros done a lot into rather today, game player elements, etc. But it's just trying to get them for pro to try and get, you know, the market back to them is going to it's proven tough because I think people just used to get in FIFA every year. Maybe because, for example, Free Pass most the licensing for teams. Maybe. Yeah, I think that's the main thing leas to the licensing for teams end, because people just used to get a Feva. Because I can definitely say that the game playing pro has been better a few for in the last few years. Like I don't think fief I've had. I've had a really good game since two thousand and eleven or twelve. I think that was like the last batch of games that will really good. After that it's just like the quality just even stay the same. was starting to do. And before that I never reallyas the play fee far like in the in the thousands. was always pro that pros always the game is only one for me to switch to, to from playstation to to Xbox, actually to xpo four hundred and sixty. When I made a switch, I started getting fee for the Games. God, the One more enjoyable, even on my friends piers free and they really enjoyed the programs as much. But yeah,...

...if he fires, just thanks. It's you guys are favorite party game. I'll quickly on Mario cut thing. Everyone forgets super circuit, but that was a really, really good game. Oh yes, no, I could seekers I get was really, really, really good game. And what continents done gain but wance. Okay, yeah, they're very good. One, very, very yeah, but my favorite, oh, it is so hard. I feel like all of them kind of represent a time in my life. Like Super Circuit reminds me a lot about primary school. Mario caught we was the first Mario Card game I ever bought with my own money. Double was a gift to me. But it's just hard. I think the one I was best that was Marycott DS, and I'm tempted to go with that one, but now I'm gonna say double. I'M gonna go double. I'm gonna say that's my favorite one, but MARYCOTT DS is definitely the one I probably I put the most time into as probably my favorite. In terms of my favorite multiplayer games ever, I'd probably have to say Super Smash, Brothers Melee. Oh, oh, yeah, I was the smash. I have to say Super Smash Pros Money, because it was. I literally play that game almost every single day from when it came out till all the way until what before bro? But it was I played it all the way from when it came out until, yeah, until Bra until Bru. Yeah, because I did to say, yeah, yeah, I played it until Bro came out. I'm just thinking about it. Now and I just remember that I literally played it until Baul came out, which is which is quite frightening when you think about it, because that's a very, very long time. I mean, how many years was that? When did them like about till it came out here? I think to wait. What did this? I mean the game you come out? I think Game Cape came out in the lunch was a lunch window for the Gamecube for I think it was winter two. I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm even checking. He knows actually made. It was two thousand and two May. Oh, may it may. Okay, yeah, we got, we got. I think it was like he came up two thousand and one for Japan and Little America. Then, if we going like mate, I think smash came out in June. Melee, I think it was even in the end of mayor June, because it was not too long after. was around the first few weeks or something that. Yeah, see, yeah, but I think that's got to be my favorite. But play a game simply because of the amount of time put into I just had my friends come over from school every single day play that with me. We all trying to be the best that we could. Obviously this was an era before online multiplayer was a proper sing on consoles, so you were really only as good as the people you're playing with. I was up, I was out there with the people as playing with on Mela and I never forget I was humbled when I went to I went to America in two thousand and five and I was at birthday party and they had a smash Bros Melee Tournament and I was okay, I was doing well, I was doing well. Then I got to the final, and the final the way they did it wasn't obviously they're not using evil rules. were all like what teenagers. I think the oldest person they was about sixteen. But basically it was like all four of us that were winning all the Games where in one game and I came second. I remember came second, but the guy who beat me beat me so badly it may be re evaluate everything I thought I knew about the game, like I was the first time I saw like wave, waved, as in fast, for in the shuffling. All of those, all of those is once techniques the first time I saw that. But yeah, man, as big memories like game home run contests, smashed the targets, even those I played. I played quite a lot of but yeah, and in terms of my my least favorite, my player game, it's gonna have to be FIFA fe fee for twenty fi twenties, the worst Moni player game I've ever played. That's yeah, I agree. I think that's you not misten all of us, you know, just today with guys. But yeah, it's a bad game. was just play it because it's a bad game.

You can play with your friends. Yeah, and it gives you an excuse. It gives you an excuse to shout out your friends. Oh Yeah, yeah, absolutely know. You Miss It. You miss an open goal. Yeah, you have. You know, it's absolutely not your fault. Everyone is screaming at it back. Yeah, you do that. It's just even if it's not your fault. You know, I was going to get onto us. How about you bones? This is a tough one, because I got to but it's hard to see the two because smash are smash goes well saying because I've played every smash since the first game. My Mate had smash, the original one, then sixty four, and the USA just always pay a mine and then a few others will get together. I just did it for the purely the piouspect of the game, so that get it was just all hector chaos and I just loved it. And then I remember when I saw black in one of the one Nintendo magazine I saw screenshots of melee and I was like, oh my gosh, this looks amazing. The graph is looks so cool. I need this game. Then Mela came out and I think that that's probably out of Smash Games. That's my food. I put the most hours into that game. As you said, I used to get together friends and because my mind was the big thing then as well. He's just been playing locally. It was always really, you know, be who's the best out of the friends. was always me. I always came on top of everyone, but I just put so much hours into that game. Yeah, all on. We went from playing games with Ush, okay, mate. Yeah, we will see if I that one. Yeah, I'm Mele a was a yeah of ours to that game. It's tough because I love the series, is all, but then also said mentioned Monsuna. That's game series as well as another of my favorite mode player Games. It's between the two, I'll probably go toward smash, but what's on the does mentioned, because I first played that game once in the play when it came up those of the week. That was my first months on the game. My friend will get too as well. So Ser said my same friend that I actually first play smashing that since, as the kids are a lot of these games are PERFEC experience of my friend down the road. So yeah, he had once on the trying to play that his enough. This games kind of cool. Then I went to go out for the we myself and then you just started playing online and then I really got into the game. Yeah, I played through a good feels on the Games, but I just love the whole. I do like a game. We you know what's in other people the team. I do also like playing against other people, but also like to play, you know, as coute to developers as well. Yeah, a similar goal. So yeah, and worst one has to be feet. I'm just going through to twenty years old. My reason what that game was to play pro clams and that was yeah, yeah, that was literally it. Otherwise I've not got the game. Yeah, when it was going to add in regards to smash rules, if I didn't play special rules to human a few years ago, I probably never would have gotten a switch, because I remember and these times it was like two thousand and fifteen. I didn't have a wii you, but we still go to you one Donnie's house, and we still placed special rules together. Yeah, because I enjoyed this so much and not getting we you because of it. HMM. If then because it's been specials and not against the tune, and because I enjoy those two games so much, eventually end upetting a switch because because of it it wasn't a specials of probably when even ever summits which intender get you in, somehow doesn't. Yeah, I'm way of the other, one way the long you. I was gonna ask you, guys, what do you think about the future of local multiplayer games? That's a that's a good question. With the instant now and everything, a lot of people just is it so much easier to play online with people? What I think, with local eyes, they maybe it's still be. I think they're only declined. To be honest. Most would like to just do, you know, life, but then they get you may have, for example, people still may like to get together, example, games, lights, etc. And they have a game that's like like you have black. Well, give up nothing or something may have to May Have Fun. For example, Mario Party as well. That's a good party game. They can play on the Gamest like as well. People may still like to do those kind of things, get together, play games. You know, just feel about her fun. I don't think they'll completely got I don't don't know if local more they will ever completely go away because of the aspects, like I said, of keeople getting together and also the matter do things fun together. Actually, we mentioned, for examples, smash. You play a lot. We to have our games by it. So we like to play lots smash to get hit and I guess like we'll get eight of us all in and I just gets chaotic, but that's a lot of fun. What's let's just say, is I don't know if they'll completely...

...phased out, raised because I still think they'll still be a place, maybe for local games. Yeah, but they online really the way in how these days. So yeah, yeah, similar to what polling said, I can't see it being completely phased out, but I do see them, what them developers, putting more for more of a focus, and that put more work into doing it online, because it just a lot more convenient for people and more times and you spend playing games in your room by yourself more than you do playing it with other people in the room. It's just how things are right now. And when you have headphones and you can talk to people party chat, it cuts out their need to go out to somebody's house and play with them. You can get a similar experience playing online, which it's not. It's not the same but is similar. It cats out then neath to do that. But I do see the importance of developing more games and or just putting a lot more effort into games where you can do local, local party which is a lot of fun. Playing Games with your friends in the room is a lot of fun. So I highly doubt that will be completely faced out. I do see the reason as to why they will put more effort into doing online stuff. Rover with the logo. been a lot more of it played as well because, especially with the years of the whole covid nineteen situation as well and people being at homes, I'm sure a lot of more big the online more players have actually increased a lot. must since the whole lockdowncers happened. Yeah, they were about you, Chris. I feel covid is played a big part in the future of local more player to be honest, I feel like more and more game companies are going to do what they can to make sure that the online experiences as seem less as the offline one. Yeah, I feel like you always get the element of local multiplayer and certain types of games. So you know, Fighting Games need local multiplayer and they even eat, like most competitive games, to Bernes, because you know tournament setting you're going to need the fastest possible connection to be available and you know you're only going to get that locally. So I think it's always going to be there for certain kinds of games, but in terms of the vast majority, especially stuff like massive multiplayer games, a lot of these battle Roy are games, just most games in general, that the local element isn't really going to be there. You know, really going to have local multiplayer options and then online options like you did in the past. I feel like everything has to be everything that's offline has to be online as well, or they weren't bother making it. I feel like that's how it's going to be. But you know, as long as the experience is is good, and hopefully you have nintendo maybe in the future sorting out their policies with online voice chat and have a lot to do on there's still got a lot of work to do their online. They got a lot of work to do and I feel like in terms of transitioning over to completely online, then send there definitely the furthest away. Yeah, no, absolutely, absolutely. Yeah, they I think, because you can even look at back when before evo or count and I would they're going to do an online evo. They didn't. They didn't. Smash ultimate wasn't included and a lot was saying the net code for smash as well, which is, yeah, very poor, and I can under us some life for that. So yeah, and turned out a lot to do their online. They are amazing local way pay. They've been kings for so long with more local Wye play games, but they just still steem to not fully going right with were, especially with some games for their online what people which hopefully, maybe eventually will get right. All right, there was one thing I wanted to discuss with you, guys. It's an important matter, very very very important matter. Needs we need to have an inquest some supposed representatives of, for as academia. HMMM, made some extreme comments last week. I'm not sure as to what they were under the influence of, but a lot of scary, scary comments were made with regards to some of the big free and the big free are the root hol one piece and the common with the other one's name. But it's the muscle of your tough...

...but, guys, let's have an honest discussion here. We're all saying none of us are taking our cotics. That that's something that I want to touch on as well, I feel like, because of what happened last week, US as a group, when need start doing drop tests. Yes, I think. I think it's a bit unfair for ust off some members come on here. Why? They clearly high on something that I probably never heard of. Yeah, the only explanation that that could be given us to you why they reacted a certain way lost week. But yeah, Chris Carream. Yeah, so I shouldn't have a honest I shouldn't pat an honest question and I would like an honest response to this question. But how will you guys? First of all, let's just talk about overall. How would you guys rank the big free anime, one piece in the root or the meat? Agree agree one piece of I agree, all right. I mean I guess it's Uni universally accepted by everyone with a functional brain that one pieces ahead absolutely quite quiet, by quiet margin, which is fair. Yep. But in the rutter and bleach there seems to be a lot of, you know, a lot of discrepancies, a lot of you know, discussion about which comes before which. HMM, and what you guys think about that. Why do you have the Ruto above above bleach? A first I don't think you should really be a debate that the the rout of should be above bleach. The rutto was good for a longer period than bleach was. I think we bleach. I did like that. My don't give me more. I like bleach, but I think it's Poto as a stupid amun worse than the Ruto's could ever be. It seems like the main Protagonis seems to be every every race of being in that. It is in that. So I don't know how my man each go. He's what a quincy he's actually got me. He's humor the else these hollows. Well, he's every field the Sun. They make use that. It was just wanted to but I think bleach especially. I think Eisen was a great villain. I enjoyed up to eyes and that was amazing. And that's it for me. But then I thought should have ended there when it went to do the whole bring again each other's powers back the full bring God, I felt that I was just you. I just hadn't like Narka, like I just very excuse my language ory, excuse my nice fine, you're good, but yeah, I just thought I just didn't enjoy it. Doo It. But I still because I've Hav invested so much time to these, I just need to finish it. And then thousand year was it called? That are fun. What I mean it's posing you. I think it was good of using. Yeah, that one. I think that was the school. I don't even know where it's. That just seemed so over the place for me personally, just that Ark to see all over the place and I was I don't think bleach ended too well for me. I think we were said devlive bleach. The Ruto Ruta was, feels, good for most of it, even shipping. Actually, looking back, shipping was good up to the war. That was basically the last part of Ruto. The war was a bit somehow. But, like I said, real was good for a longer period of bleach was for me. So I don't see why bleach should be above Ruto. At least a lot of Ruta did tie a lot of its characteristic after as well. I think it had a lot less plot holes in the end. The leachs it. But yeah, yeah, I agree with quite a lot of that. Not Overlapping what you just said. We can talk about the protagonist, which is each utrigal, which fairly boring character, to be fair. He has every single ability somebody could possibly have. He's able to beat somebody that can see into the future at any time. He wanted to know how he still lost one. Yeah, let me go ye say that one is not to take a sea of beauty. He can make the make his own future. So I don't know how he's still eat. US to Munson with its. Explain to me, because you know what I I had tapped out long before then. Explain to me how you can beat someone who can write the future. Hast called back card. That's the thing I thought. I still to it. Understand how we still want because this guy, maybe you could say like the features so many different friends. It could. Someone for could change the future in many different ways, but this guy could do can actually write the future full stop. It was, but somehow each co still one laugh. Still, I don't still don't know. I don't know how EIVER. I'm so bad bossible that...

I can't like to see you. My own explanation is that you just had to write his block and that's how each go got to him. That's the only thing I can think of, because the ending was actually whispays, like he didn't know how to end. The made a person way too powerful. The event couldn't so of it. So you just literally just give us dog food. I mean a lot of these people that tend to criticize fairytale or use the same mouth to praise bleach, and it's a bit cheeky that they talk about ask pause. And all of this when IGG literally became a God's Half God, Half Devil, half human, halfdog, health, cut off Hal few, half in half. ME, like, I don't understand. Where did this all come from? Where did you get all these powers? Where did he just pulling out races out of his ass at? I don't get it. I don't get how anyone thinks that's good. As bad as Naruto was at the end of it, there was always signs alluding to certain things. A lot of the problems people found with what's his name? OBITO? Yeah, Toby. A lot of the problems people had with him is because they knew who was well done. You figured out who he was. Who told me was well done. It doesn't mean it's bad. It doesn't mean it's bad because you figured out who it was. The foreshadowing was what like eight years in the advance and as predictable as it turned out to be, it wasn't it made sense. At least it made sense Naru. And the thing is, and I think it's people forget, a better nuo had a very, very good run for a very, very long time. The first see, he's the first the series was really really impressive. The combat, the actual choreography of the combat, was really, really good. Yeah, I would say pre time skip rules, like really really well done. Yeah, much I can fall I think the post it did kind of fall off, especially that we mentioned the Kombat, because beforehand it was lack a lot of handhand combat and a lot of thinking. And then those car remember, which WHO Kakashi was fine, against and we'll just bringing up stuff from from the earth from nowhere to to protect himself in this completely removed the hand to hand combat and now everything is mid range or far or from far away, which is I don't know. It wasn't as fun. It didn't seem like I was seeing Ninja fighting. YEA, so like use what a replica of Dragon Buzy? Yeah, it did get like that to the end. Yeah, yeah, so I do have got quite a lot of criticism from the real but again, like the first part in the real was absolutely amazing and it's something, I would say, that probably rival any any show them that they can think of. Even if you bring up the best one piece parts, the first part in the rule is definitely you definitely argueize up there with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, again it falls off for the second part. But we bleach, although it did have a strong start, I wouldn't compare the so society arc with the first, with the junon example, for example. I don't think it's good. Even those sources of Susa is a really good one. Yeah, and everything after that was definitely no where near as good. So I feel like the comparison with bleach and a rule it's a bit cheeky. Yeah, especially with certain people want to bring in soundtracks. Let's let's, I think let's let's have a little segment about soundtracks. One of them unnamed member of the four eyes cast. That's a prime example. But Yeah, Col I don't want to I don't want to post. I don't say too much about this because it's an ongoing case, but he posted a soundtrack, a part of the bleached soundtrack, official soundtrack. The song is called on the verge of insanity, and it's extremely fitting this name because you'd have to be on the virgine of insanity to produce something this bad. It just sounds like android seventeen produced this like it just doesn't make any sense. It doesn't sound like there's been any human input into this. It's like programming and Android to make a bet, to to make other androids dance. There's there's no base, there's no drop, it's just noise. It's just saying that. You know you said that, but you know, and I just reminds me of that. was that mean that they had? Was It cassady that? Yeah, I'm black cassie with some bay would beat that was going off. Mam was right. Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm biking of right now. I'm literally right now, and it's something that some we just best in one key where you can do it. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. And this alleged person actually...

...said few with five double us in order to emphasize how much this song had an impact on them. No, we don't have audio tests for as I couldami, unfortunately, but it is something we will look at implementing along with job fishure, along with job tests and along with mandatory eye tests. I am literally lost words at why. You'd think an anime that rated what it ranks bottom of the two thousand and fifteen shown and jump whole or really crazy, out of all all the Manga in that shown and jump in the previous week's shown and jump ranked dead last. As bad as new has been, I don't think it's ever ranked dead last. Did they get to get them to get dropped from shown in towards the end? Not? I'm not sure. Something will have to look at, but wouldn't it wouldn't surprise me. But yeah, I mean when you just have a bunch of characters with very little development or getting lost, I mean I can remember so many more than characters, then I can bleach. Fair enough. I invested a bit more time and to Naruto, but it just seemed like they were just putting out characters in bleach for the sake of it, and a lot of the fights just had no real consequence and didn't progress the story any further than if they hadn't met. You know. mean. So I don't know, man. I feel like I feel about people using a lot of nostalgia to make their decisions and you have to put that side. Yeah, the Manga anime that you loved was actually rubbish, and that's okay. There's nothing wrong with that. Yeah, that needs that. That's could be said about DRUGON ZY as well, another that love. Leave that one for another day. It's another days discussion. It was something also bleached. I remembered acquitment world. They were cooled, but its why is odds. Maybe there was that were numbered and there number years, a bottom, the spot of your number best ability, and I think, yeah, Guy, that was number ten, and you any yeah, when he did his release, if you went to number zero, zero in which the strongest, it was a tem strongest and I don't releaseonize the strongest. I one of them and he's done with from ten to zero. So wouldn't it mean that he was the strongest to begin with? Bro Yeah, it's stupid, but I that is quick maths. That's that's certain people's favorite big free so and sleeping to them. Going to say as well, because I think as well, you can see about the supporting characters as well. I'm the reverse bleach. I'm going for in the room over bleach as well. Come on, man, probably characters. Yeah, because you could see what was it like? You got like Chad or he may, etc. And Leach. But I feel like you they espnish their powers, that they just became like like Chad, became basically irrelevant. My man came, you know, you went to WHO's your haven't pronounced the you know, the hollows vaults, but my man went. Then he just got thumped up after getting a new powerders our arm. But I feel like they just literally irrelevant, some of these characters of bleach. Where's the root? And he didn't really hear much about how they feel. You didn't really get so much about how they got the powers, etc. Whereas, at least from the route, a lot of I thought you could. You know one. Maybe you know. Yeah, at least there's comes likable. You can see a lot more, like I'm Si Kimaru, leggie. Yeah, they church should gie open rocks, even side, who came in in part too. Yeah, even he came in and shipping in the team that I'm Suskiss, that I've ruling with. Yeah, I'm with over. Their name is but the shock, Dude. Yeah, the girl can't remember a name. Karen I think it was. Yeah, yeah, I can't he names. Hot, remember the names, but I remember exactly how they look like. Even that was like they were good characters, the very memorable. I don't know their names, but you you remember what they did had. I remember remember the personally, tell their personality, where as a bleach, you'd have to remind me about each and everyone. I was at every re read, read it all the way, but you'd have to remind me about most of their abilities and their relationships or other characters. Like you look at someone like showed you and Edgie and you know their relationship. You know who links with WHO, you know who was in the same team as the other person. Yep, even there was a loads of different teas that you still could see all the different yeah, even after they kind of left their teams, their...

...traditional teams, even the war, you still knew who belonged to which team. Yeah, I knew that side. You knew that side replaced SASAKA. You know, I mean you knew these things because the relationships are built really well. Yeah, it. Agree with that fully. It's just say, yeah, man, at least you'd just it wasn't you knew some of the characters. Some maybe the decay someone like I just feel like a lot of them were just forgettable. A lot of them, with the different things, are forgettable. I couldn't even speak of like Campatchi's team. Some of them they had supporting characters with his Campatchi from the Kabacchi. I like Campachi, but you had some of some of the actually do direct yeah, yeah, so of U S A bords, importing characters of a forgotten about them. They're just like became relevant one the bold headed guy and the guy with the last of we had some blue hair or something harm but yeah, I just didn't. I didn't really care as much for bleaches supporting characters, the beds in the rows. We compet you that I spent years waiting to actually see his release every when he came out over, so lame. But it's another topic. Yeah, yeah, that's another that's another topic. But yeah, now I think you cannot really comparable. Beach has nothing on the row for me. Nothing, absolutely. As you can hear, you're hearing relevant opinions here, not from last week. You're here in the right lover that prime and I believe again what takes. I mean, I'm sure there will be a rebuttle next week. I'm sure they'll be moaning and crying and it's throwing their toys out. I Pram because that's what children do. Hopefully they're not under the influence of narcotics again and we can have a, you know, an adult discussion about anime and, you know, proper, proper analysis of where each anime should stand. But you never know, depends on what the children's mood is like if they're hungry. Oh, you're going to say as well. We didn't you say about the soundtracks as well? Sorry, it's new as well. By the way, there is sometimes better than theech is both even shipperd and actually has marble tracks. Yeah, we's got better tracks. Yeah, it's got more moral tracks and bleacher she puting. I love both part when I'm pot to always I'd say pop one parts because I saw the mark was done. But yeah, and ship and yeah, both their soundtracks are better. And Hunts Hunter is better than bleach in every conceivable manner, from animation to soundtrack to characters, to characters development. But we'll have a probably discussion when the firm boys trying the podcast. Yes, please, because that's insulted to see these about unto x hunter. Yeah, cool, cool, what are they? Yeah, man, anythinks you guys want to put your socials? Yeah, mine allow up hands and twitter, puns, underschool instagram. Yeah, yeah, means even a demo on both twitter and instagram and you can follow me and my way with opinions on crankster and pretty much everything. Right, thanks, guys. Thanks for listening, guys, and see you next time. By right, right,.

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