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Episode 45 · 5 months ago

Resident Evil - Exploring Horror Games || Episode 45

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Tudz, Ponle and Chris are back in today's episode to discuss what makes Resident Evil a horror game. Join them as they take a trip down memory lane thinking back to earlier horror games that they played back in the days!

On this episode: @tudzdotexe @oluwaponz @chrinkster

Heller and welcome back to anotherepisode of fores academia, you doing today by myself, tods from my in crestyea. I guess and we hate to talk about horror, games and just over all scarygames in general, but before we do get to the main topic, we have some news.The first piece of music is Sony now expecting PSI shortages tocontinue into the next year. So I am not PSI gang. I think Basilye Wen a launch, a luckyguy, so yeah yeah yeah. I witness, I feel, like everyone's an amazing storyabout how they obtain their PS. Five is so funny that everyone is just like adifferent story of ten through some sort of saumaise experience just to getthis bus station. All I mon was Cole. I had lo every order so early. I didn't havemuch worries that all just came through that morning. I got mine and I was allfine but yeah. These short is, it looks like it be under because the L behunger games. Still for these you see I didn't I didn't Broder I mean I triedto half heartedly and it didn't go toowell. So what I did was I planned to to do the whole gold there twelve M andfor bidding lit, launch right. That was the plan and then borers told us yetwhere cominetto yeah, but fortunately I've managed toget into contact with someone who got a couple of rodes and yeah. I just gotlucky. I skimmed this article because I was like what is causing the shortage.Is it just like troops is a Chi yeah. So is something here what they say.They said: Label shortages of semi conductors Casan. Almost all competingdevices has made that increasingly difficult for the continued the mind ofpespire con source to be met. So I think there's just generally been likeshortages in like computer parts. I E H, e h and so cotises fected, so many notjust consultive affects more bars as well as PECs laptops exit, because I know, forexample, wasn't it was a graphic cand cruise yeah, so the graphics cardsituation currently is probably worse than way. Worse than the play station fivesituation, you literally cannot get them they've been out stock. I mean they'rehard to get as it was, but because of the pandemic, andbecause of stopping of production, certain certain aspects- lack of resources, it means the extremelyscarce and when they do go on sale, they disappear with him less than asecond there's, not there's not many of them,and that's the problem so, and the main issue is that a lot ofthe people that are by in these graphic a graphic cards are buying them to tomind CROCEN Y H, so they hold them. So you might have some people with. Youknow six, seven different art a is in a unit, whereas someone might just wantto play games. You know a good frame rat on their PS and essentially that's what these goffesgraphic cards are designed for and can't do that currently as it is, ifyou do want to buy a graphics card, you got to be paying well well over theodds...

Siculus I didn't understand to definehave enough time to so I can so I to the next. I, the next es ones, isobviously resident evil village released recently and at for as you'vebeen streaming it and talking about it, a not so any confess thoughts. I don'tthink a Pollis at harm her again. An he just like me is what are your first as like about?What's your first game so far, and how many hours have you played said one Imean yeah, I mean personally big fits again to cap com and the sire orprovide us of a couple copies to review. I played I'd, say about four hours, five hours at the moment,I'm still working away through it, but yes, very different. It's been a a long time since I playeda resent evil game to that level. I didn't play the two or three make wemix. I do plan to play them eventually, so the last time I played a residentevil game properly was resident evil, for he was the protectest of that LeonLeon tell so. Obviously the game has gone from aCEPES on perspective. To now a first person I will say the village does reallyremind me of for in in the vinish aspect, where you haveyeah, where you have like you're in. I think I know a no resVillage Yeah, even though I haven't paid it. I thinkI'm too. In that sense we haven't played the game, but we know so muchabout it because I like play games like adjacent to it. Yea Imean it was. It was one of the highest game: Ut. Wasn't it yeah? Itwas the wonder highest, evil game. Wasn't it. It was on a couple consols.Actually I remember came out on game he, but then I think, because the gamepeople wasn't sailing well, they brought it over to lac station at days.Am I right yeah, I'm not in about, as I think he came out. I think it came outon the game, but the game cube cells was in that great. So I think I mtrying to remember the full details M. I'm sure they didn't brought over the PS to us to check. I want to go with this because I'm pretty sad. It waswritten e before that this appen to maybe you on Er yeah it it was on aganconers but four and eight a very similar andthat village aspect, the main difference being one is firstperson, so a basically takes you from the storyof President eval seven. So it's kind of continuation where you have potatiesethen, Coorsin, even winters ether, winters where he in the seventh game was on amission to rescue his misses from some sort of place where a town where there was acrazy outbreak of a disease which obviously cause causes them tohave those Zombi black tendencies. So he hines she's in the state she's nowlike, because on be fire, she's attacking him and in that game for atthe entire game, the objectiveness to get the antidote in order to bring hisloins war at better. More so, in the F game we start off withEthan his wife and his new baby, just all living a normal life and when of a sudden they're attacked people die and even is left. You know...

...in no man's land, pretty much withcrazy stuff have happened. While he's been passed out, I don't sport too muchabout the story, but this new game is essentially a missionto get back his daughter and he meets some very you know interestingcharacters most most notably lady, Dim Seki orlady D, as people like to call her that you know all the waves have beenfantasizing over that was so funny as the actual gameshe's, not that prominent compared to the other. No, it's not like she's athe main character yeah. If you watch trailers, if you watchedgame play for age and seeing the media response, you have thought about. LadyD was in the final bosses, the game or the main antagonist, which is far from the case, but yeah so far it starts off. What I will say aboutthe game is that it starts off quite interesting and in I seen a lotof people say the same thing where it's like a massive difficulty: spake theright at the start of the game, which is very confusing and which couldreally put a lot of people off of the game. There's like a segment where youessentially have to run and just trying out lost a hord, essentially same old Razi. You know you haven't,got a lot of ammunition, so you got to be very cautious about how you fightfinal weapons and it's very closed off environment, more spaces, there's now anew blocking or guarding technique. So youcan press a one on a play station to guide yourself from an attack, which I think I D don't call me on this, but Ithink it reduces the amount of damage you take significantly as opposed tojust absorbing a hit about blocking, but yeah. You start off in a villageand you make your way to the main castle and I think the game looksreally really good. First of all, the sound scape of the game is reallyinteresting, because the music is good hearing, stuff anddirection. Lilly trying to figure out where stuff is coming from is reallyinteresting, but yeah. So for it's a good game, we still got a long way togo but enjoying it. At the moment, yeah watched a bit of game bathe, bye,Abbe, who was streaming on our twitch and the other people, and it seems likereally terrifying out. The Gate, like I thou the first segment, where you're inthe house before the things happen is just you know, very calm, and then it'slike you, Crashin of nowhere and immediately everything gets stack and you can't seein front of you you're hearing noises not seeing anything like you do, sonright in it, so yeah, even the son who was watching it. I was kind of likemeaning that in the knew, what's going to happen, something talk about rightnow, so I think it's very. It's definitely really atmosphere. I think Ithink the first person perspective really amplifies that as well. I was also thinking because I saw atweet the other day I was making the rounds. It was a teacher, an article.Basically, I forgot which publication Miche, but basically the headline wasresident. Evil village proves that you can't really define Wasan evil as aseries anymore and it kind of like the first power of for the Arcole kind oflike insinuated that I teta be a negative thing. Like all the series allover the place, you don't know what it's really about any more, but I sawpeople counting. That was single. Isn't it a good thing that the series thislong running, can still surprise fans...

...and come out with new things? I wonderwhat you two thought about that he sees just as a bunch of different thingsthat good or bad, or I guess I could be a bit more now its than that, but Imean coming from my experience. I've played so I played the first two resine gameson play station. I played nemse on dream cast played forlong before. In lentone we played a small small bit of five. Iplayed the deme of six, didn't play seven and and or playing he there's amassive mass of difference. Obviously- and it's almost hard to define if, forexample, it had a different name, you would not even think it was a resinevil game. There's nothing telling you. Apart from the characters themselves, Imean it's got Chris bit, it's got an Chris Redfield and apart for the carters themselves andthe story line not Nevin the story in just thecharacters themselves, you would not think there from the same game. Even ifyou look at the last three releases- and you sorry list include for so. Ifyou include a two and three remake seven and eight, they completely differentgames. You got your third person, you got your your different weapon load outthe way things the way you attack, monsters, the type of monsters, the battle battle system, but the wayyou you interact with your enemies is allcompletely different. I don't think there's any problem with that. I wouldrather see a series. Avatar have a brand, you know resident evil and makegood games than to make the same game over and over and over again forgenerations I mean, isn't evil. One must have come out in like what s six,ninety five, so to see the same game play over and over I don't know, I don't think it's a it's a good idea,yeath game, but I guess if, in e as upon me, the Silent Hill, I don't haveyou seen game player of any, if not village, and of the recent as an evilsnot react to your experience of Salt Hill, I'm not like. I said I don'treally Fay for a game. So even sid here I know a side Hill but not played it. I have seen the differences, maybe alittle bits and pieces here from the as recently you will go through it. That'sgone through the years cause. I think, even if you go back to exoner fordidn't for change the norm in some ways. Well, because it went to didn't fullgot de for go. First person shoot a bit. I wasn't first person I on first personwas it, but what I had the it had over the top of that kind of dynamic, fairperson t where you would you'd be able to. I think don't quote me on list by I'm prettysure the we you could move and shoot for the first time in the serieshistory. So before that you have, when you fellout your weapon, you put out your weapon and you have to stop yeah, yoube stationary. That's scary, yeah, some yeah. I did a couple thingscouple things I know for did a couple things new from the previous Resende Il Games, alocal they're, a lot more slow placed, and then I think for was a lot a bit. Along wire action orientated. Wasn't it in a yeah. I had what you call it quick time, eventsyeah. That was it so that was it changing on. Oh, not really kept upwith much like I said I don't really keep up was an evil one. I can see- andI understand like the impact it's had in gaming anyway, for example, and I thinkbecause that there a lot of the stories...

...that they're not really connected- yousay they're not really connected as such, but you don't have re occur incharacters here and it is like an over ate. There is yeah andit comes to umbrella. Corp E be out there they're prominent yeah yeah.There is some sort of link usually between the Games, but they do for one thing about resentevil. Is that usually has terrible story lines anyway? So I think that robis just a really masses by the game play and they think they do continue tochange and in Hartstein from what I've seen the game play resides I keep soit's understandable life. It has I s such a hot, huge following as well, andI wonder how I think where's it rankling cat converser in the series ofit's I'm sorry trying to Shikimi quite highanyway. He must to free number one S: Moony, isn't it a Matson a world? IsIts high catons bestselling game? I m not sure what season, if I was T es so series, I'd, probablyguess the Word Street fighter, Mais Drei will be a I I think, Stupovi froonly because of how long it's been established as a series yeah, I where's an evil. I think, isthat okay, for this is of September tousand and twenty resin evil was cap,Con's B biggest even the series okay, and what's on the second, all right yeah. What so that's huge you in Pastor,two thousand and twenty that was a in September, two Thusan and twenty. Ithink that probably changed, probably change of it, because rice rice came upin last March anyway, so which has been doing quite well forthen no they got as an evil that come out now so yeah. But yeah you see it'sa discipine t. thus I kept con was in the top to Foistin n series so yeah. What do you think about the the evilseries tods yeah? I was pet to us like because obviously ether winters is that kind oftypical vigogne every man character. At least he was in village es very muchlike a black canvas. I think when I was like looking into it. It is like adeliberate decision to just kind of like to simultaneously take the player outof like ethen as if a character, be it immerse, you more in the environment asyou're like going through. This is enjoying to say a life which I thinkwhen Said Don, understand this decision behind it, but I was, I found him like,even though his bland on purpose, it just makes seem like really like andsympathetic as well. You don't really care, but you can eas the story and,like you said, there's well. This was nothing like like ost like legs. Anyway,do you get with its just feedest to have a game like this, so yeah? And youwill do I guess, but I think who I've seen a village so far. I thinkthey kind of flushed him out a little bit like from the outsat have a bitmore of like a worse and personality yeah. I think it's good because he'sstill very much that kind of like only this. Just a Pretendin you're stillplaying the game as ethen like yea. They see too much about him, but stillgiving him a bit more personality. I think, was more effective than I Ihazard but yeah. I was just thinking well. Iactually went to ask as well as because Oiso gone from like over the shoulderto third passenger ear to first person and stuff like to you as a player whichone do you find more scary or immersive like compare playing as even winters invillage to paying as the on candy and are you for like which one makes youmore you miss, makes you for more immerse in the game, maybe not scary.His right word, yeah in terms of immersion. I'd have to definitely saythe village more so than for, and a lot...

...of that has got to deal with, and I'veheard people say this as well. The closed angle, viewing so the actual depth of debt fulfilled of debt, ofdeath, of vision in the game, it's quite low. So you only have a narrowangle really to see from being the first person game. You have avery narrow angle, and things are still happening behind you to the side of you that you may not seeso, while you're running away from from on that, sometimes you can hear themand they're close to you and you're trying to run, and then you getattacked, whereas with Rasi. For, for example, you have better control of the camera,so you can see what's going on a lot of the time, a sort yea o yeah, you gotbetter control of the camera. Essentially, so you can see what'sbehind you, you can see what's in front of you, you can see what the society, but it's quite it's quite quite a contrast. Another thing I wouldsay, though, the first game with the fixed camera angles, probably is the scariest I think, or the one thatcan make. You really feel a bit bit creaked out, because the angles arefixed and part of the reason why resent evilwas so scary in the night ears was because the camera angles were Shit Yeah. You know it makes sense when thecamera angles is shit. You really can't see. What's going on properly a lot ofthe time you're there fighting the Zombis as well as as a camera, I don'tknow which one is scary a but it's it can. It got be infuriating,but it really made you panic. Sometimes, when you didn't, you couldn't havecomplete control over what you were doing. We can see what you were doingproperly. Yes, that feeling of helplessness, because Ye that hope youhope I t but the CA. The camera was awful butand I'm so in like when I'm stressed out, I'm not quick to react, so it'slike obvious, I'm dying in it. So that's! This is why the play our gamesto begin. It is like I'm not wasting my money, because if I see the one starthat I'm trying to avoid I'm going to panic, I'm gonna die. What would you say is the main. Thenumber one reason you don't play: Horror Games E, it's a waste of moneylike Lilie, even like it, I gon sound, so ridiculous. The first time I saw ablue liner on breath of the wide I couldn't move in Lane. The last of us and theflipping blow, if I see a bloater like I was watching Abbo Stream, the last ofus to the first, when the first time I saw, can you spoil Yeah Ye, as we saw theright king and a o these people in the back of or mind as at watching themplayers like? How are you even able to think clearly right now, you'll find this thing. There's toomuch happening and the way that Bospore starts. It drops you in it. You havetime to like think about how you're going to tack it. You have to Ituellostay alive, long enough to figure out its weak spot. People have to die a fewtimes in the like. Okay. Now, when the kid it for real think which is a goodlike game design like drop you in it, and let you try a few times before youfigure it out, and then you can just like with new determination, fight thebus. But for me it's like it's great to watch. I personally would not find enjoymentplaying that yeah. It's I if I watching horribly forme, I don't mind horror. These horror games is a bit too much like that. A Imean it and Lakhio theroot that you...

...used to actually scare me in Games was when I thought I was in control andthen I can. It was all of a sudden. You couldn't find out you. No so there's lots of games. I let's take bead of the wild, forexample, it liol even go a guardian. I oo they're doing what you're doing youthe you know. You see one and maybe you're running lone health and thenyou're thinking you know, I'm just going to run away you're running awayon never forget the first time I was running away from a Linaria and he shown aranas. Is it literally aday after lunch? I was, what's he doing and then I got finished. I was like. Oh my Godd. What's like itis when you shoot an error, it doesn't go that far when the line or she's anarea. I was so far away from this line. I waslike this is got to be her line lines of that slieves I'll, give you another one. For example,it's like when it's also the game becomes self aware that you're trying to take the easy wayout, for example, like you know, in a metal, get solid, so both miles one and it Goo to havesituations where they're really creepy, because it's like they they break thefourth wall. So your fight in psychometers you'rethere, your your body's, been controlled and you literally have to switch memorycard spots also cazeres, depending on which version ofthe game you're playing. And it's like you have to do that. To beat this bus-and I was thinking this guy's making me get up a pot. I aidens like that because I something you like what am Imint to do and then, when you figure out O, surely not, then you know haveto physically. It does not seem like there's even a cold right that you needto enter. Howa is spen so long about ten solidand the code that you need to and you you're thinking, where's this coldwheres. This cod is literally on the back of the box on the game box. Iguess I'll. Let us like four digits. You have to put it in you, coal havethe box we going to do and back then getting information wasn't as easy,just googling. What's the code, what would make you play a hurry gameand don't say money? I really don't know the films. I don'tknow what what's the one element of his hurricanes a schedule. The most I think ye like I'm on my own, like if I was like, ifeveryone was like real, like okay, Tito is enough stopping a little baby. Youwant to play you CA, present, Egal village. I, like everyone, is like there likeholding my hand, and he all do it and you let me play on the easiestdifficult. You be fine. I was just like Oh yeah, it's just offlying playing games. I usually do defingito, let see something that looksgrotesque and create me out, and it just comes and gets me from behind andone of these games, I'm just like. No, I'm not playing again just the freaky stuff I'll. Just belike I'll hit me as like I'll, probably...

...jump out of my seat and I'm just likeyeah I'm putting this game down. I going to Lilas the least of the issue.It's the freak, the buddy horror stuff. I can't do it, you know what it is withme and these games right. So Fair enough, these Games are scary. My thing is the initial. The start ofthe game is usually the scariest bit. Once you get into the flows, thingsyou've been playing, you know a couple hours. Nothing really scares you thatmuch anymore, it just becomes a kind of routine. You kind of get accustomed tothe environment that you're playing in you know that okay yeah there might beas on beheard. They might this. There might be that, but you don't really getscared. So those games, don't really do that.Much to me I can play them. It's no problem. The ones that do bother me arethe indie ones. I was just thinking of the when I triedesily. I pay this of my own volition, because the story sounded so insane. Ithink that's Mosic get me to play horror game, it's cool devotion as byRed Candle, the tienes developer actually found out by the game. I foundout about the game because this his whole her bud because they released agame after devotion called sorry. Detentionis the game I tried diversion was again I got banned because there wassomething veinous in the game. Basically you're in the tower block inTaiwan during the white terror period on the under martial law is very likepolitical politically, like something it's called like themes in the game and there's one ofthe in one of the rooms, one of the apartments and like describing thisreal, like vaguely. There's like a postal in Lista ion something and it'sdepicting the Chinese president as we e Poo is mocking Cam. Basically, I thinkI've sumes than Chinese the chase authorities did not like that and theybasically review bombed the game. Was this Linethe Biscar? Did someone do avideo about it like talking about the whole game and they must have donebecause it is very really it's really critically a cane game, but not manypeople in the West got to play it before it got removed because I e bondand scheme and they do want to smoke so they pulled it from steam and Ithink, a couple of years past this was like last year, Gog Games or whateverthe site is your at. They said O good news, Western fans we're going to so devotion on the store. So there'slots of hyphen excitement for it and exactly thing happen again as theChinese fans. If you bombed it, you got lots of backlash and then the end. Theypulled the game from their store as well. So he's at a controversy thoselots of backlash aimed at dog as well saying. Why would you cave into thepressure on that stuff? And so what people didn't say it was like support,read candle you can still play the tension is another bit game and I readthe Beeston opes on it. It's sound, really cool si down O her. I played theDEME, it was so frightening. I be the deer I also pard to myself. Iwas like that's a this game. I read out what happenedand it was like wow. This is an amazing game, but I think, even though I stillknow how every or the twist and stuff a might still play it, because I'm stillso intrigued like how it's going to be everything that was described, because what I didplay was really great, and this really is sacristie foller and it's kind oflike two d illustrations was just so atmospheric and so scaryand the way the first kind of like evil spit, like monsters likeintroduced, there's no fan I fed there's is nothing you're, just walkingif in people in all of suing, this is thing that's there. It doesn'timmediately respond to you so you're thinking everything is cool. You're.Looking all of a sudden music changes is coming off to you is moving twice.This me that you can move that you can do a yeah, because your cat, a catfight she's a fifteen year old girl she's, like she, has like a physicalRacton to being scared in the game. So I'm shaking your ole life in thecharacter shaking as well. This is the...

Muse that I'm dying so, but is it'sjust really really like? Well done the way they did it like. Even I wasterrified and my sal wasn't going to pay it and I spoiled it. I'm stillthinking I will buy the full game and play it just to see how they do itbecause yeah, I think that's probably whatwould make me play a hard game it. The stories in trating enough, because somany horror games, put emphasis on the story, but I think India Games are theexception to that. The many factors of the story, morethan than in my experience, see, has to do that's the tention, butI've actually seen a super. I patrol who did a video ondevotion is, as you going behind all the political stuff, an yeah. It's a really good video andreminded me of a there's another game I saw. I can't remember who I didn't playit, but I remember watching the quite a lit the like a that minute. Video aboutit come of is Japanese are American. That's about a bunch of kids and everything is really fine. It feelsa lot like earth bound where everything is just kind of fun and chilled on theplayground or friends and there's a point in the game where, where you're one of the kids and imagine night having fun fancy menu.Where is like fight? You pick your attack, you pick your skill, so you imagine you pick your attack and the only one the stairs like killyourself, yeah, wow yeah, I mean this is there's not there'snothing else. You can do that's the B. This is is nothing else you can do andit's like it's so creepy, because it's it really treads on your morality likebecause the only o Otion you've got is to turn off the game and live and playit a teenager. What not but those kind of games. This is onethat are. I find genuinely quite creepy where there's a lot of law behind it.Where there is, you know the skepticism things that have happened. Contra Controversy Games at Manahan Games at five fivenights at Freddy's and Games are outlast. All of these,have you know massive things behind him, there's the other one where you're inhell. I can't remember what it's called, but we discussed it once in the past,but that was also a game that had quite a lot of media attention. So those kindof games are the ones that tend to genally creek me out, not the jumpscares and you know, O months to show it in and presently evils, not a scarious peoplemake out to be. In my opinion, the scariest, the scariest bits of risenevil are the bits that feel the most normal back. Lady dimished walkingtowards you. Oh that's, frightening Yahaha is frightening. Oh I and thething is- and it's like mere the same thing with R E, because they're notrunning at you, which is I carting if they's running and feel like. Okay,yeah enough, you re in at me, but you're walking and you're almost at thesame pace as me. Yes, that's a true, especially, I thinkthe clip I saw, lady De mtres she's like stoking ethen character, and it'slike she has to get so a face literally and she's stooping, underneath the doorframes his real forces how how much bigger than she is like astupid man big, like you're running,...

...sees how walking speeds o'that you've been hiding from her. She gets a call from redacted someoneand she's angry about it, she from the table and she goes through the door.Now you come out of hiding turn Er. You know progress for hisstory and she just comes back into red and the only reason you survive isbecause she crushes your head into the floor on the floor breaks. They managed to fall through and then you're just trying to escape and she's basically saying that he'llcatch him and epens like do your worst, but he's soover it. It is hilarious. He e village is so much better thaneven Bizet he's, like I literally be he in back which what else could anyone doto me and he's indestructible? I'm sure it's just I'm sure as a spoiler reason.Why he's just like seeming so UNCANNIE, but I don't know I actually. I have noidea. I look at these situations. I think why have they not killed him?This guy's an anima protagonist. He does, I know a bit about why theyhaven't killed him, but there's certain bits where he should have died yeah,but even if they're not there's things they put him through, that would havekilled him e h t this e were trying to kill at some way it early on there's the major thing with easternhand and the stuff that Esente goes through so disgusting a hit like it. This is your point likeearlier in the game where he like he falls down in the shop or something andthe people tormenting are like wow you're still alive. The next thing I he just does it die but yeah. I guess I'll keep watching soon. Ours play because I'm not playing but yeaten really watched a lot ofvillage, so I I need to watch some lot of people play it because I'm Rayville, what's the first Harragan you guys everplayed or re, you must lay it. You must not, even ifit was only in more there was. I think there was one of the laps one, but Ican't remember it was. I think I played it my on cause. I can't re the exactname of it, though, but there was a horry game. I briefly played you anbipin full, you remember, I'm trying itactually a doesn't come from my book and TinGain Congo Order with the consols. I've earned just to see some any games on insixty four s: The relyin sixty four game, Ke. No, yes to I'm trying to think of as any hardgames it in sixty four a lot games. I creep me out. Yeah. Igot several days. I think I've ever played the horrorgame like you, when the mines gave player before I tried out detention.Everything else has been second hand. No watching a friend or one of mycousins play or like a place to on you tior something yeah saying to my name. Games havescared. Me Was the first game that scared you. Thefool was the first game that scared me. I know mine was it's not the game, butit's when they first got to lavender town and pick it that's all mumsie time.I need a creepy paster behind this it was amplified. I was just waiting. That's before I internet stuff, mycousin told me like. Oh, this is like we, the Pikon go to die and like, ifyou listen to the music, I didn't know it, but I I a thing, but my friend s telling meyou're Goin to have like nightmare. It gives children as I...

...the all the dead Pokan. That's whatused to creak me out. I did eat me, but I knew that there was dead on M, butthat's to die before Lentulo for circle, because I thought they died. Then I realize painting is not dying. Oh yeah realize in the love is a soundthat they actually did die. Music had the right to be that scary,but that's a go uneasy in. I think me, I think, was o Goin to play this. WereI a sixty four a the photo? Piet was the ill. It was theEltham looked at the time as well. It was just very blocky, be sort of ill,like mad te Lucia. I was scared because I came out at me. I was like well I'mputting this came down because it was when you got. You haveto go close to it to get to come out of the ship, but I didn't know I just them.What's the level called again Jolly Roca? Was it no? No O we googe it. It'sit's. The under one but O was called is to an another. An a one was jolly o t e, a t h or talking about yeats, I'mtalking about the a en the shipwreck yeah as B Jooky that one it was thatand also the pianos in Bush branch. This is like you, don't you interestedthe piano quite a bit and nothing happens a second you walk away. Sochasing you. What's the reason I, the first time, I've been properlyscared in gaming was just a the occurring the time, just a variety fentress variety of ter reason.Even now, when I look at Awking of time, I don't know what it is about. The waythe game looks and the art style and the colors, but it just has a verycreepy kind of sinister fill to it generally of outfit shadow temples like yeah waybefore them in Great Hiero. The first time I first a the first time. I had a P. I was I, Oh,my God, a e e d to me, O yeah, pose I pau the game straightaway off that. What is this play this? We did the had most romae story, the OlMasters. Oh No. I was long scared way before I met the war musters yeah. Iwas in before them as well. It's just it's. I read it literally made me shake.It was a scream, a link Shastra you heard first, and then there was as badas a wind wan, but still I I think it's because they look so human, the ones inoperations of that I wasn't when we could. They look human enough that it'sscary, yeah is a S. it's the way, link stops in his tracks and his eyes arestill moving, but he's buddy cart. Moves like that yeah, the I sing. I remember mentioningthat the Athinkin Wind Waker really create at all, because you can't seeanything but that you know something's there because things looking at. Whatis you looking? What is there is such a good character design, because Irealized afterwards that what he was looking at was usually where you werement to go an yeah yeah as like a sly head, but the the firstactual horror game. I pervade was alone in the dark for demo now I must havebeen about...

...nine or ten. What platform ps one okay must have been nine or ten, and it'sgot it's quite a different, it's hot different names at new nightmare orsomething, but it was called it alone in debt. For now, everyone was fine, and I rememberI still remember it clearly. You're walking around and you've got ashovel in your hand like a shovel you're walking around the city. It'sdark. It's pitch black, just trying to figure out what to do asyou do as a kid just walking up round and then all of a sudden there's a cutscene and then there's a dragon. I was with a friend of mine, we justposed it screaming and we left the room. I was so scared. I couldn't even turnoff the game literally just ran out of the room and never played a learn. The darksince that day yeah, I think it finished. I Didnt Fish Demo that I e from then on, sat playing all happygames. I didn't want to be stressed in my life that can we but yeah after Ibeat the detention Demar is like right has to pay my Co. I don't now befrustrated than scared, that's it that won't be frustrated andskid. If you were to play like a horr again,which one would it be you think for a? As you know, I all the ones that I know or we keepthis in from going for a Rasamaya actually tried to reside for full Raseur is not that scary and peopleused to criticize the game as well for not being a scary, because that's thatsounds good to me and the reason is because the villagers themselvesweren't, they didn't look like zombies. Theyjust look like regular de yeah fo t where they were the regular people theywere, but they look like regular people they just at the BA okay. He wasobviously some O so gone, it's just so he doesn't hasn't paid a game to me.That sounds scary than them. Actually looking mine, zombies, design perspective like it's just justthis innocuous looking human beings, but they can kill you kind of make somekind of. I think it depends because sometimes I know when you shot them,they had to sort of split open and then they have these, like kind ofthing of think, like parasite for exam, the anime so yeah that was a bit creep. It wasn'tthat creepy to vinous. I don't think I was scared playing that game at all.Long candies are more capable, potain is an Echinites yeah and he'd be superwith supress as on bees and stuff, as also kind of hilarious times you can with that one.For Me Yeah. I could started that one yeah, what you think about what do youthink about the horror game, movies des or a Averell, been a good, becauseI know reseen they even Continu they're going strong with these. These resenteven films are then I am Golieth. First, the EVAC I like that. I want it when Iwas younger and I did kind of like it, because I felt I didn't feel what thatas more action it felt than horry. In my I am wrong in a way here. Maybe I don't know, I do rememberthe first one. I just remember one guy getting sliced up my lasers in one part when they're trying to gothrough them and then the laces come from mammy got tie stock. I rememberthat but yeah I did kind of like the first reason: The evil film the E had aMavis nemesis yeah they did they did he even embers that was called that.Wasn't it come what the media s called,...

I'm sure it was cool, isn't even I thegame. The game is three nemesis and I remember playing that one. I'm thinkingabout I hit. No, I think about the game. There's a rise for free, an the MISSIS.No is odes to the scariest game. Ever Nayehiya thought was yours, marshals,creepy and then the link is death. Theory came out and it just got worseand you just have to think who are these people and engender that arecoming up with this stuff? Why would you even they have some tested ideas? Ithink it's Israel. I used to be a little boy with a little green hair anda green she nick and now he's dead and he's going through the stages. The fulllass of grief and eons dead and then the ending creditscenes a man as grieving over his depth, Dickie Scrub son. The end I was so piglike it said: Oh Yeah, wedding, Tema safe, but the Butler's son is stilldead, so you were too late to save all these people is Greis at least ye itthe way that they were all looking like. There's a there's, a couple of peoplein that party that they having at the end in credits that just look glum and some people try to put that down toit. I know what it's the limit is of the console, but it's not is becauselike if, if you just think of a Jus mask is a game, I think that's why it'sso it's so good. It's like Mike Save High Roll and a pen of time, but by thetime you do now is realy too late to save all these people who are sointegrity. The story, you can't save. What's the guitarist from the Zora Band, you can't save theDeco Butler's son, you couldn't save the Goran brother, you can't say forthese people like so even though is at by ending these people saint coming back m o thesages are dead theory and Oh gosh, that one got the game is just just Fulta still love it, though I don't know what happened at Nintendo Zelda takes such a dark turn. What wasthe first was the last game before Akering of time. Not For the past. Was It link to the past for Corea on aflame, actually I'm trying to on the Arar Games. No, it couldn't be one ofthe hormones into the ASENITH Games. Thenthis one to a because when you look at all the other games or the Oracle Games,I mean the Oracle Games are a bit weird as well links awakening. I think we get to the class. I mean I m right now to Taberg. You know. Eventhe dark wind is not scary. It's just it's more. Like is yet's, not scary,it's opposite of highways by the war. We are wrong. It's not Oracle! Gamesthat was reaccess came out two thousand and one oh. I was just that was somegame by color a oakesie wrong kind of like time, land but yeah. I think youhad to shift caushets awakening. I I'm so trying to think of it. I'm thinking of link you know and the yeah yeah it was okay see. This is the issuebecause the game boy games- ah it's hard to really lie- is links awaken your legs awakenedit was, I wasn't like was after litsy those games thatthe end the turn was way different. Talking a time even before you becomeadult, think there's a way you sort of.

Like you see the staring of that kindof like creepier element, O Barkin, you can even go a box twilight princess aswell. That's got a lot of creepy dark elements in you know. I think that'swhat t one of my items, because I was old enough to completely what yeah Itells nough to understand the themes of what was going on and that segmentright where link just goes crazy. Is The scariest cut scene inZelda history? Not that they are even that seed isquite crazy. I seen it since you must have seen it masteris firsttransformation, so I was also feet. Oh yeah, I please, I have seen it onbelieve you haven't seen it you're going to be gobs Mat s w a I ensibuswhen it came out, like I realy talked about this in the previous part, so getlike old generation of a con source because, like too many people in myhouse ever you went to g but yeah en yeah I'll, send you a list is yourreaction to it was all I should be Yeah Zada, scary, Rese, scary, other games that people sell. You arescary, the not scary m! U I mean now that you said what yousaid about resent evil for and stuff, because I think the first doesn't evenwalk. I've seen game play of like back to the end was by a hazard from what how you talk about like theearlier games, where Chris Redfield and you ha you wor the main protagonist. Itseems more in, like a similar being of the loss of us to me m the I has beenthat West evils is a survival horror franchise, but the last of us isn'tsurvival. Horror, Peo just find the game. Scary. That's really interesting, because whenI was I we class the last of us a survival Harrut according to like whatThee God, like the game, designs themselves, it's not something moregame to them. It's an action is an action adventure game, that's how hecause it because there's some bees in it and like scary elements, it's not enough! It's as a or game a game can be scaryat times. But this is a survival horror, game, we've created. It's an action isan action. A nation adventure action, something kind of game. I describe itas so yeah. I've never actually thoughtabout how close in well, how similar the last of us andthe resume evil a because, unlike games like you, know,house of the dead you're looking at a virus outbreak,that's causing real humans to be to behave in anuncharacteristic way t, whereas, where you have games like houses, are dead or a couple other games of escape mymemory. These games have beings from the never world from hellthat are literally spoiling out to cause issues and yeah. No, it's interesting yeah. How sois that used to scare the shit out of the nource? I? U To literally you knowwhen Yeah I can like scared me to. I know you made the inset coin thing askid game yeah. It was not a ANTAEA. You know how we talk about. Like is derbeing creepy. I find the same thing with those games. There's somethingabout the way they look and the sounds, and the cheesy story lines that justreally creek me out. I just kind of like, like is horror yeah. It's just away kind of it's like the way to come out to you as well, because you just aone there when they're, just coming at...

...you and just trying to shoot away shotor you can't give it and you get white, and you see your health goes down an ifyou M it doesn't beanie it just wipe at Neesya where okay, okay, yeah yeah buthorror. But the thing is you know it? Doesn't this a thing it doesn't feellike do when you're playing doom and your you know doom guy. Do you guyfeels very powerful? And even then, though, there's loads of scary stuffaround you feel, like he's he's a match for the elementsaround him, I mean same with quake, but when it comes to the house of adead, you just feel like an unknown person who passed then, who stuck inyou know I don't know, is that castle. I think it was a call Tin Subitas Imentioned Quin yes castle mention, and it just feels like you're just tryingto escape and USOU. Don't know you don't feel part you rit hopeless. Thestory makes no sense story, Maso, something like, as in the story, ishilariously bad yeah. It's like one of the worststories you ll ever see, but like bv horror and that's being nice very muchyeah a Yentle, you see it soon. All that see thatreaction to oust us was at clingest yeah. Her ofGames probly have had a lot of effect. Avonian genres of games anyway, likeyou said the last, the last of us, you can see, is probably gotten inspirersoff from some horror scenarios. So you said this one use the apocalyptic virus. That's affected thepopulation. How people like many in disease is on these I like, but yeahand- and you can it's taken a lot of horror themes anyway, so you still gota thing where you still want to run, trying to get away at times from thethe onslow of enemies trying to kill you, and some of the disk can be quitegruesome as all which is hard ask, but no I mean Yo got is just saying you do, feel theimpact of a horror games and have a presoner. I have on other games thatyou would call a horror game themselves, but you can see their inspiration from wet to re deads like captivate. Youthat's definitely taken act from yeah. I there's no reason for that in the oldaga in a if they fired at, I feel to bringit retours the fact that developers are getting better atfinding new ways to scare people, yes, which is terrifying example. You havepresent evil seven in via gement was the REV, and I don't know you guys arethat W is scary. That sounds scary to me, an you guys, Babar I played vaiveplayed with VI yeah. I play I played on Oculus and I panting scary or nothing,but it's very, very immersive yeah extremely mess. I had Google on ver, Ican wot was cool at the time, but he sonat for a while. So I had that andthen I've done, I played a few VR games like it's mainly the time we playedMarico Vir as a yeah that was a a cat bear was so define I yeah. We did that a few times it wasactually so...

...but yeah. I can just imagine thinkingof that. I'm just imagining Horror Games in V, and I imagine now I resenteven seven, I'm just going to be delicate it or something like that. Weall fire across the you want me to fool a I dirtee ofdevelopers like finding you ways to scare us as well Ike, even life, fromlike a narrative perspective when were speaking about the last of us. I justremembered that, even though the course of that spring infection is like thething in the last of us, the clickers and all the other, like zombiedcreatures of the the scary stuff. What's The scariest enemies in the gameare still the human enemies and I think, having the backshop of like the zombiesand then these other antagonistic human characters trying to kill you the yeah.It makes it even more scare like watching Abe play it everything the Ilost, as is watching a by play, I'm not playing that game, but, like the gamethrows, you drops you in with the clickers et ce, as they mean I'm takingus, then, when you get a bit further in this a bit where you're in you'restalking, another groups hide out and when the human spot you and you have tofight. Obviously you can still fight. You still have that weapons and stuff,but when, when the human spot, you Vesina clickers spots, you it's nightand day in terms of like the panic you feel like, oh but like yeah, it's just so much scared. I thinkjust because this is postolic, because well you EISL like the worst ofhumanity. You see it in to that and make notes and stuff left in the gamelike what human beings are doing to each other. So the first time you havethat in the back as context the first, some you in counter human enemy you're,just like go shit. You really know what these people can do if they catch youand now you have to like fret for your life so yeah. I think that's that was areally Corlett most of us do. This has been a good discussion, thougha yeah. Definitely so, when I still more to discuss, there's Los what todiscuss sure we we'll be have another horror, games, episin sure when bat,the wire team comes out very game, a scary games, an ELM games,games of dark themes that you may not be horrid, but you could do he. May Youwouldn't be you wouldn't be mad? If someone said it was a horror that parties family, because it led and Maria yeah yeah or games to play toguys sonic boom and sonic o six cary for the wrong recent yeah thanks somuch for listening. If you meet it to the end, we are, of course stillplaying the resent evil. Village, so cannot or twitch for as academia to seeabby and Chris pay through the rest of Esinger will have it reviews coming outsoon, as well as to make sure to get busy, listen and just to see what wethought about the Games will fly a Cadena everywhere. Twitter were now ontick, Tock, yeah, to a s O s still going to be a person back upagain on INSARA. I have taken the expective decision just to make justkeep it going like and there obviously yout as well. Wecoul content as Ouas will catch you for the next episode. I have been tuts beenjoined by Pon me and crests YEA Bigos, we'll see you next time. I take it.

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