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Episode 46 · 4 months ago

Legacy of Kentaro Miura || Episode 46

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

We're back with another episode paying homage to the legendary Kentaro Miura who passed away on 06/05/2021. We discuss Berserk and how he inspired a generation of mangaka and manga fans.

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#Manga #Anime #Berserk #KentaroMiura

And welcome to another episode of for aacademia. Today we have tuts. I still have a money, hello, as I otiosaque one structure Ye this whole thing inyears. How we took the last night's death as banters the only on but meanen had a bit of you know, but yeah we on a more somber. We want to offercondonance to Kantara Muria and his family. He died untimely on May the fourth andit came to light two days ago, Maye, O th nineteen thinkhe done to Senias n six o sorry yeah. So you do make the six and it came tolight on. May the twenty eth he's been an influential figure inMangan enemy throughout the world and he's on a lost, an impact on myself andone of the other members or for a academia. What are your thoughts, but first sorry, I'm gonna go I mean Igo first, because I think everyone else has a lot more to say, like I alwaystoo much, we need to stop beset, even though Ireally wanted to is one of my TVA for years. At this point- and I see howinvested everyone was and just from what I've seen limply second hand, Iseem like an incredible back fantasy ethic, but I think, evenif someone who never read the series myself, the impact across Manga, ananime and even video games in film is clear to see like in the way I of the news of his death.I saw a lot more people. Making more connections with other pieces in Mejauwere more obvious, but you thinks like the Buster Sword, I didn't realize itwas like a direct connection to got this sort. I don't know the actual avegot this sort vercoe, and it's just like this is saying I say it's like isdefinitely was his magnum Pessis, definitely his life's work and it'sreally clear to see even a son, his Pale on the outskirts of the Bizertekind on so yeah. I fought. This is like a huge loss for the community that welost one of the greatest to telles in this medium and, of course, a mediumreally yeah for real. Just just echoing whatto said, we not only did we lose a great story. I now were in this medium.We lost somebody that has affected impacted several different type ofmediums and shows, and Games and TV SES, so on and so forth. My introduction to Berserk was, I thinkI was at Uni when I first when I when I first started reading Bizet and I thinkfor the very first, not sorry I told a...

...lie. I watched the enemy first, Iwatched the anime first and obviously on the ninety seven enimies on twentyfive episodes long and is in the middle of that show story and by the end of ityou're just sitting there wondering what's going to happen next, then Ispend quite a lot of time in reading the demand, I'm sure will get into abit later but yeah. My introduction of wiser was the enemy that I moved on toa Manga and it was a great experience and just to see how many people arecoming out pouring, but basically he at seeing how much it entor a much of an effect to had in islife. It was kind of heart breaking see on the day, a very hard brouin actuallyand then going on line watching videos of people that are breaking down whilethey talk it well, there are receiving the news that he passed away. Seeingpeople making montages of is work. It was a veryemotional day not only for people that are a fan of the work. People are afend of enemy mango artot in general. How about yourself? I think it's a money of really justsaid it best. I think I can add anything extra to what they've kind ofhighlighted. You know in terms of the impact that,as that has had you know, ven time areas. Work is just. I think. What'sreally surprise me this week is just seeing the fandom come out on to us. Sofar as I can deme put out thread in a week to kind of which was beautifully summarizing. Is the s work that the sick is, youknow so doesn't wit mentionin the work that it has influenced since itscreation and just seeing you know all the fans come together and just reallysharing their appreciation for a time, Maria's work which really really greatto see. So it just goes to show you just howwhy spread the impact of a Manga series can really have and there's just howmuch the type of legacies also that the right is the behind kind of creatingreally impact ul works such as Buzzer that we've all kind of luckily had theopportunity to read through just really experience, not only from the sack butfrom some of the other works ave, been it mid by it and Yourself Abi. I I didn't actually know how much of animpact it had or how much influence they had an other pop culture until thethread. So that was really cool to see and like everyone else just said, he you know wasn't for me personally.My introduction to him was. I was Animo like strictly a in, I only open till acouple years ago, and then the only time I actually did read Mangar was, ifI wanted to catch up to a town tight and from where the season left off andthen one time I some people talking about Pasear, I was like. Let me justgive this a try, I'm not going to. Like I already said to myself. This is this:is you know bullshit, like I'm, strict, getting Mary and Moini the my God, so Istarted and by the end of the first chapter I didn't even realize those twohundred pages and I became addicted like I think I think I read maybe acouple ox in just the first couple days and I just couldn't put it down. Ibenched it up until three hundred chapters in like such a short time, andthat was it for me. That was the beginning of my manger journey and Iwas only a couple years ago, so it was for me personally like that was like myintroduction to mango. That was the first time I read a Manga only withoutwatching the enemy before that, and I wasn't interested in the anyway I think months later someone said: Oh try, theanime, and I regret it because it was it was. It was so bad. It is so bad. SoI would never ever suggest to someone to read so to watch them the beserkanimate, because the mange is so good, like you, don't need to even look thatway, but yeah so that he impacted me...

...personally. That was at the beginningof a Managen Tis. Since then, I've just started going back to like any animaethat I watched that I really enjoyed it. I just picked up a manger and re readit from the beginning, and that was like. That was it for me. So that wasmy intreaty Zack, which enemy version did you watch? I watch the CJ one, so the latest Oyeah before sixteen to one yeah yeah, because you know I didn't think that Iwould have thought the old no want to be better than the older ones. But thatwas a mistake. The old ones are actually but I've seen some clips of it,but I just don't know was the point already read the mange. I enjoyed thatand leave at that so yeah. You said the bar really high foryourself. I did. I always do that. I always do that, though. I always dothat. I always do whenever I do whenever I get introduced to somethingI always start with the best thing and then it's like from there. It's likeyou know it's like when I go into my first game: Ov a computers breath ofthe world- oh God lieh many, a wegstetten like not soyeah. I always do that to myself. I did set my stanis really hard, getting a Yeahs, quite a basic introduction forme. I remember I think I was in a secondary school and you know as you doyou look for the Best Manga top man go in the world and most violet mangowhatever you search for what you're looking for right. So I must have beenlooking, and I saw a lot of the familiar name stuff that I was reallyreading stuff like vagabond stuff. Like deflowerer alwayspopped up, so I remember thinking. Let me read this. I remember reading thefirst couple chapters. I thought it was pretty good by I felt like it wasreally really gory and it reminded me of Gants, so I dropped it for like a little whilefor a couple weeks, and I can't remember what happened, butsomething made me read it again and the art really stuck with me. I waslike this actually looks really good and the story seemed like it's actually getting a lot bit and a lotmore interesting. As you know, poser, when it first starts off in, is very,very violent. Then it kind of takes a more sombertone when you go into the the friendships weave with got and all the all the people he meets hisrelationship with Casca his relationship with with Griffith, and it was like a roller coast of emotions,essentially reading it, and I always felt like there's not many shows TVshows books, anemen go I've read that could kind of take you on that emotional Roneronh andmake you feel so many different things towards so many different characters,and since then I've always been a fan. I was there for more since a lot of themiddle hiatuses. I was always there waiting for it. I was on. I was one ofthe RFORE that started reading, while the weather on the boat eight years later. So for me, that was what a levels and a master's degreelater and it still wasn't, still went out the same area where ineight years pro so I kind of got bit of frustrating pickedup a lot of other stuff in the meantime and then eventually I hear I think thiswas a two thousand and fourteen, because it is re starting obviously elated about it and continued reading was always a friend Iremember when he...

...it was announced a I was coming back. Ichanged my twitter DEP to guts and it still is still that same to a DPI andfourteen the fame can remove it ever again. Tis Yourbrand. Never really. I never really thought atlike that. I just thought: I'm happy besace coming back, so I'm going tochange my dpot and that was it wasn't anything major. I wasn't into to lastthat long, but all the time I don't know, I think I just kind of becameaccustomed to the art of dessert and was always a big fan, and it was alwaysalways happy to talk to other people about the series as well so yeah for me, because I is probably my favorite mango that I'veread personally, I think so, yeah completely understandable and justto Tachot. Like the. I think that is the one thing that people are mostfamiliar with with beserk. Even if you haven't read the Manga, you'vedefinitely come across a ano or two and and something that is mentioned about aviolet. Although that's what we mostly see o o people that I haven't read, Ihaven't read the man go or read: The story is that, even though it isextremely violent is the story underneath it is, is so great andinitial also re, initiate stories about revenge and that that's the basis of itby the relationships that get got eventually has or the past relationshiphe is. I guess trying to regain and Foto story does really hit reallydifferently and, and you go through like pread, go through a wave ofemotions and trot the whole of miser. I agree is one o o n S. I I was justgoing to say this. I think it's a double page spread that I keep I kepton seeing on line again again. They really every time I felt like Oh peopleiis for me like an we like, Screami and stuff, like I really wanted to get intoit. Thou like Oh, I just had to work up an NA to de ce. Before I can take theplunge, but the's one double page spend in particular he every time I saw. Iwas just like. Oh get a grip. Just read this like what was what was this Fordwas an it was yeah and and guts and the other, so that is ouange in y types. You see thefur resolution. I then I like a toon. I was like this. I came for one man'smind. I have to read this. It's so good to cod out, and I never did, butobviously now with the news of his passing, I feel like a bestart reading it like yeah, it's one of the stories you cansa any time like you know, so I feel like some. I memini haven't experienedlike ofto. Sometimes I just you just can't pick it up, but bust is timeless.Like you can you can read it any time. I started it. Two thousand andSeventeen Chris did it in sectary school many stated at College Uni. Ithink he said so. It's like it doesn't matter when he's Tart you're, alwaysgonna you're always going to love it, no matter what to where at what pointof your life? You say it especially for mange. That's over fortyyears old, I as a lot on the quality that and the work they put into it.Yeah and a star does get better throughout as well. I remember readingbecause I read it in one bolt. I actually saw the difference in one go,so I always started off. It was good. It was still amazing, but, like thecharacter designs were a little bit different at first, I enites, reallyyoung. He was seventeen. The or memory is quite young. These are twistedseventeen year old. You know because the first inertem I might wrong. I ate...

...very young because when he was doing awinning was an assistant to an remember, dining with them. The boxI monger had you. Man Was gonna Butcher, the name when he was an assistant for my man. Iwas I it was eighteen. Eighteen year I was eighteen years old yeast had the concept of ISAE alreadydrawn up, I'd got and, and is the very name Satap Hutu, but aready, ready drop got in park so from eighteen and before eighteen alreadyhad the concept of beserk, and also even before that he was drawing Mangafo was like ten years old and he was publishing it within his school that agenius he was drawing up. Man Gus, when his tenus or and getting given out toto crease classmates, so he's he's always had that neck is one bit on atthe level of storys heading from the very beginning. For a teenager to comeup with is crazy, less amazing easily. I think it's a genius I be you remember,in wit to the so I'm going to Tang et here, but just for, like my Garciaother, do this for their whole lives and year. They started Witte, rasorexhibition and similes of all his old net bix he had when he was in schooland some for when he was like six years old. Yeah ready had like the Nat calstory telling, even though the doings are quite rudimental or like the panelling, and just like the way hehad kept like a story play than from a young age, so hearing that a Murastarted desert when he was a teenager, just like some people, just obviously alot of skills involved, but I think some people just have it and not for ayear from the very beginning, I e n one thing. One thing about these mungereealways kind of perplexes: The fact that they we most of them are very, very goodartists in their own right, and then they also have the ability to they havea high level of ability with story telling now the two of them don't seem to be that connected. I know,obviously in art a lot of the time you can be telling the story but having those two skills and being ableto put them together at something. That's really fascinating to me. O hasbeen quite fascinating, mind bubbling yeah. I always the detail like when yousee those panels like him. You hold this certain man Mi, mind er, sorrythat are pop plan and that everyone knows which there's always like a topfor Pallas people would like to tend to associate those Magas with bezersplenty like yeah you're, not to like we had spayed choice to kind of find ourfavorite ones like the one to mention about got to be Griffith. That one isjust you know like this is dessert, but just seen the detailing and at of theeyes of the others. Just it's is always amazing to kind of just think throughand inflict through the Mangas as well yeah. That's true. The panels inbesetter often get overlooked the ones with the demonic beings. Yes, the most,as was I a there monsters ere the out of detail yeah like a Gary, because Iremember the first chapter where we meet Zad. I was like yeah like this. Isit I veryry, I like scary things, but thisthe story is very chilling, like the monsters. The way they're designed isscary, like so yeah I agree think was like myfavorite panels are probably the ones where C got a bit more emotional likewhen seen smiling is a particular I nor of Gods, where I think is fury or inthe story, I think is. He is in a black black swordsman, so I go where he goesto a kingdom and Lin, I think, is the...

...king or something was or something likethat after he tries to sell this or to to the God hand, and almost sacrificesdo one or sort of ten you end up killing em in in front of his door.Even though he done all these do things he's doin angry about it. Saying all is that,because if you was something about I'll, get you back on the e sin on his linesand be Isanusi, so I got to sign on the line that can get me when you're ready,but as soon as he says that, obviously, like Bet de Menike, angry or a besterface. The next panel is in turning around him, crying because a littlegirl is there telling that she hates him she tuthe ones and dead, becauseOgilvy, who was doing the right thing at the time, but for Fred the wholestory of ISICOCO. Like constantly trying to minimize of o People Contesipeople a week of the week, they should die so on and so forth. But in thatpanel it just rows how much he actually as for a degree and how much isactually in, and I think, those panels of gods when you seem ever smiling orreally rely upset. I the one that P person that hits me a lot more becauseit just just caps how how strong the story be is and how deep got hisfeelings for at the whole story. Actually are it's not just a basic orI'm angry I when to get revenge is like there's so many different days of gutsis character and panes like that, just I bring it home for me. There's another scene that so amextremely similar to that one. Where he's sent out to assassinate a king orLord, and then I think, as he's trying to puthis ex his escape, the Lord Sun Prepares. That's what I was thinking,that's what that's part any was talking about. I particularly remember the onemoneys talking O, but I do remember that scene that being not seen, I've seen in like four different formats and each formout is just ridiculous in a Manga. I think it's probably the most chilling one, but it's it's somethingsimple. It's an accidental murder, essentially he's I've seen this he bustme. I was like no no a, and then he realizes that he's made ita great mistake and just the face on the kid and got his reaction kind oftells you a lot about his emotional state got sinis someone who grows quite considerably for at the course of the story, to apoint where he can. Actually, you know, laugh and tell drugs towards laterstages of the story. A panel one of my favorite panels,which is kind of in the latter end of the story, is when I'm got SIS with Gotson watching Kaska and then the oldmost the boy that there with after Bowo baby, no, no, the Babe'svery, very cosy Paris name. I member. If you see me a up somewhere, he he'sgot short hair and CASCA in her. You know. Demented state is playing withhim and just playing around and got is just it's kind of like a bit of seathappiness. He's happy that caskets having fun. You can see it in hisexpression, but it's also sad that she's not who he knew before yeah. I think that's something I reallyenjoyed the like. What the tributes people are making so pasied in asimilar vine to what you guys have been talking about when we see got moreemotional side and there's one scene, I don't have the context around it in thepanel. He's really angry about something and put keeps teasing him cut,acts going like different tanges he's not even like addressing what'shappened, and it's getting more and more frustrated the point where he justbreaks and just starts laughing uncontrollably. He says something likehow can I stay mad when you ere this...

...ridiculous m and then after he finisheshis laughing thing, he's just crying and crying, and then it's like there'sno text in the panel. I just needs you to kind of like feel that ever got his feeling. Youliterally just you've, just reminded me of something actually and it's a majorreason why. I always hope people to read the man gowith the enemy and less because park isn't in the Anima. Adaptation is evenI didn't know that he not in the Anima was the reason it thatI have no idea, but it completely changes the dynamic of this story. Aabsolutely a serves as colic relief is actually most what ha say about ninepercent of the communions in beserk ovol pass back saying something:referencing other man go breaking the fourth wall, yeah Parkers, pockets, Hilaris larious,but mission makes some of the I'm not sure if it's in allof the enemy aditten, but in the ones, I'm sure definitely in the the SGIAN, not the most recent C J onthe one before this was it called again horresco and then the first addition,the one in the s pucks, not there yeah it just feels completely different yeah. I, if you read the first volumeliterally every single scene of commenced relieve, is because of Buck M.No, no! Nothing like like technically enjoyable about the first one youdeserve is there a pack I got is some miserable busier, a guy from a tritefirst volume by a that was a nice spot and that to ask questions as the I know,Tu, you haven't read the, but you will soon because of Williams coming for those you guys who did read themangare up to some point and will there any kind of other external factors thathelped you enjoy. Reading the mango more and if to me, when I startedreading Berserk, I was at ening like money as well and like the sun likeenemy, I m, not in man, Manga reviews on you tube, but I used to watch at thetime that he used to like Di set and analyze the chapters and that helps meenjoy even more to be like. Okay, like you know, we're on the same page thatkind of stuff. So I think that's kind of one of the kind of aspects that madeenjoyable for me to read and then also what should views after the deserve. Ididn't do any of that in watch, reviews or anything, but the thing that helpedme was documenting it on twitter, so I would just have a a I had a millethreat that I can not find for whatever reason, but I made afraid of like allthe parts right- and I remember tweeting like Oh, I love Breffitt. Whydo people hate him he's a the best person ever? Oh, my God, he's amazinghe's such a he's such a baby. I love him right and then, and you got a raceVeron yeah and everyone was like what like well just keep reading just keepreading and I was like there is nothing this guy can do because I mean in thisstory: Everyone does bad shits, I'm like what can you do that's worse andwhat got has already done you know. So I was like there's nothing. You can do,there's literally nothing. You can do that can make me that can put me offhim like that much he did it. He didn't the worst thing he could possibly dothat. I couldn't even imagine right and I was like wow and I just I think Ithink I must have quote to Etat with the panel that I got to, or maybe itwas a reaction pick I can't remember, but then everyone was like you see whatI mean and from there I was like yeah well, I was wrong. I guess a that madeit very enjoyable for me. I think I...

...wish it was a T. I don't know if therewas a time that a lot o people reading, because I had the same time, but whenpeople are watching things at the same time on social media, it makes the reading or watching experience waybetter like it was the same imbecile. It was the same for game of throneslike Oh yeah. It really adds to the you know the experience of consumingwhatever media a consuming, so that for me made it a lot more enjoyable. Something similar to whatever mentionedis that with a lot of man, Gario anime red, like a show, wehave like a really really great protocolist and an okay, antagonist orreally really great antagonist. Were okay protagonist, but the story stillgood with bizarre e you can someone can have an argument of them, saying thatGod is the favorite protagonist of all time and crifice is the favoriteattaginus of all time. I think both of them are really of that Bricole. Idon't think e's any other mango or enemy who has a proteges an attackingat that level in the same story, even I think it- and I think, is just how wellfresh fleshed out Griffis was in the with an Ado, just get understanding ofgriefs as a character, and then you obviously get to the point of theeclipse of of him doing what it does, but not only that is that we also get aseparate story away from God. The small focused on Griffis with it sorry and-and I think that just add to his character and obviously griffith dideverything wrong. But you still a wonderful and world create characterlike one of the best carters have person have the pleasure of reading onbut yeah. I E, I think, that's something a element of wear that Ireally love it. Just how great the antagonist is alongside the paticularyeah, I think that's a great point actually, because for out the Story Mirror makes you question a lot of the actionsand behavior and the moral compass of the characters so yeah the people and alot of age. Lo Agias, that's the say: Griff did nothing wrong. It's beengoing through the community, for you know what that that was. The support was a havenbut a I yahyah put the front go on his album cover, let's not it but yeah like this is the thing with griff what hedid was by most metrics incomprehensible, but as a story progresses, you kind of see why he did what he didyou yeah to build this utopia, new facon, the way he's going about doingthings, what his the lips he's willing to go toto do certain things and yeah it's wrong, but it's like itkind of reminds me of the Naruse storyline and what's his name Madara trying to do theMoin then check people into a sense of of what's really yeah. What's reality ofbeing in a perfect world and that's pretty much what Griffin is trying to accomplish gotson himself a lot of his, thoughmost of us do like gus as a character. A lot of the reasons why he's doingwhat he's doing is out of selfishness, yeah yeah by Green Yeah. He wants Cascoand he's willing to do whatever means, whatever it takes to get her back, and it almost seems to a point whereit's, regardless of what she wants but yeah I do like. I do like thedebates that it stirs up between all...

...the characters and how no one is thegood. No one is rely. Bad Guts himself is definitely some chaotic goods. Yes, I think the genius in in teters work isthat when you look at God face of design like he's portrayed at some sortof angelic being yeah a fairly on in the story, that's how he is treatedpretty much by by the by the kingdoms that he helps out as a as a soswee. And then you have got towhole story for every single town and sea and kindom. He goes to he's. Justbringing about destruction, this been people's People's lives have come to anend because of thought just being there, because he's obviously branded so in ina certain certain look, you can even in a certain end, be you can see you can.We would say that refits is technically he the hero of the story, because he'stechnically put in the country together and is and he's I guess, making abetter world an in a way. What what got his action is that complete, tearingthat down and and if God does aventures of seed to go git is. Is that what'sgoing to happen to the world, all these vemon and ones that just going to run,rabid and and all you many would die, and La quakes said that doesn't caregot got as I go in is complete on cos in revenge, and it doesn't matter whoand what it affects. It does say a song who hasn't startedyet this second, I saw with it an he wasn't a good person because he looksjust like any kind of modern depiction of Lisa. Far- and I can you purpose,you know the best in long flowing blonde or white, hair and Jenifer,because most of it was making a a beautiful. I can literally man liketwenty characters, that twenty evil characters in the same ilk, the so many yeah yeah had demonsfinding out that. It's not just why her, I okay, but finding out that's not justa simple I as a beautiful character, whose like evil even think like basedon what you have have said about the story that guesses his evil, because again, is what makes thechapter so this this is the problem. Eahlstan want to give away too much of the story when tothrow people off a bit. So I started this. I do it that way and a lot oftimes. It comes off really obvious, but I think just going off how you guyshave talked about it. I think it's torn a way. That's e En masterly crafted andbelieve all throw out and like again, you could just tell is this- is this:This was this man's life's work is obviously shows, because everyone isso affected by this loss, and you have like panels and references andanecdotes for days that, even today, all of our things that so that's hethat's the thing with, because no one is, is truly good. Yea and no one istruly evil. And it's such a major dilemma. You can put that across allthe characters in the series, even the ones that just seem to one war in chaos,for the sake of it, a lot of the time they're fighting for with his purpose,they believe in Grit's ideals. They support him and want him to you know to do whatever it takes in order tobuild this utopia or whatever. What e guys going to ask you so I've seen thenews came out that the assistant of cantaurs has said he's going to try his best totry and you know, come to some sort of conclusion with the story. How do you feel about the story beingcompleted without his presence?...

That's a really good question Chris. My only thing with that is, Ihaven't actually caught up to the point where I'm basically I'm behind. So Idon't know what he some. As I don't know, what's happened, Balah Bah ah,but from what I was reading on the l from the bazar cleaning. That wassaying that the chapter that was love Ritten by Cantaire, so I can'tpronounce it his last chapter that he drew in and wrote was. Actually it was actually one that they'd behappy for it to end that I don't know what that chapter is, but that was kindof the consensus that I was getting on. People just like just leave a where hestarts because he's the most recent is what I was told. Ihadn't read it. I can't say for myself, but from what I was reading is that'skind of what the vides I was getting, but then I personally wouldn't be. I wouldn't be too full of that, becauseyou kind of want the man who started to finish it himself, but you know ifCantara had given the guy his lessons to be like you know, you got to do thenthat's different, but I think we would need to be some elements of hisinvolvement in that to complete it yeah. I think, there's just too much risk ofruining such a good story, because I mean I don't know who this guy is, so Idon't know is capable of, and I just feel like. I would rather be left notknowing how this would be completed and if LAS right and they're saying thatthe last chapter is that kind of a conclusion, then I would rather justleave that that than someone that I would love you know, although for tocontinue, but I don't know you so I don't know if you're going to be ableto execute to the level because he sat the bar really high and it would be ashame for like now for it to be, you know, rushed and just have that typical rushconclusion that all these other mangers have so yeah just leave as it is. My opinion is completely based on what what the man ca wanted. It happenedbecause his people saying that, apparently, he gave notes to hisassistant and he's been Tenet, feeding, information on the story and and and bemuch outline line of the part of it. So it just completely depends on exactlywhat cantor wanted to happen. If he's happy for his assist, if his confidenceis with been doing the work, then I'm happy to do. If we don't get another besearch chapter then it is what it is. I is, we've got three hundred and sixtychapters of it of great work. If we don't get another, one is just lifeunfortunately, but if you do it does have the means to carry on then I'll bemore than happy to read it yeah. Just on that quickly, a sorry go not on say,as an outsider, I was thinking like I don't know how long this assistant hasbeen working with me Ra, but if we can have seen this been like several yearsand I had lots of met big discussions about it and we always been all for avery long time. I'm sure there's been some in discussion about the story'sconclusion and what's not happening if something happens to him, especiallygiven what we know about the working conditions for Angara who are evenconically suffering from physical health issues. So I think again I haven't read thatyet yeah. I know how good the story is. Second hand. I think if this, if whatmoney said it was tree like this, is this is come out all ye. He said thatdiscussion is with his assistant. I think it'd be good type of option therefor fans to either take the last talk poisons alive as a final chapter andalso had the option to read the conclusion: vental friar his assistant,especially since I read that, given how dark and grim this story is near, I didbelieve in a show your ending of got. Sorry. Not For that. So I'd be interested to see that, justas like you know, but yeah, I think I think it's a good tide, the optionthere I e. If the Puanit come out, you know it just says, then the read itTinea e t wanted reinbecause we saw...

...what happened with is a yamen e taceitem. So I guess that is: Oh Yeah. I think what would be. I think what wouldbe better if they do go that route and the assistant does kind of take overand going to complete the final bully more chapter I'd. I think what webetter is, for example, if they were to come out and say: Oh before Cantaro, hedid complete the chapter, but this I I think it might kind of be a bit moreruined if that makes sense, if you won't know that maybe he ate it. Onething to know is that he did finish the three hundred and sixty four foe beforehe died, so that was that was scheduled to be released. It was a good idea yeah, but it was held about you to reasons we now understand in howinsight his assistant has been with him for quite some time, and he helped himin assistant story boards like most of these assistants. Do I personally think if MIRA wasconfident enough to trust his assistant, then we should also have this interestin him. I know he's not there to you, knowfinalize things and put that fine final magic touch, and we do know that the minor details make a big bigdifference with these kind of things. But in my personal opinion, I think ifhe can trust his assistant, then we should be able to do that. I don'tthink the the last chapter that released is enough of of an ending it'skind of just like it's just like a situation. Essentially it's not reallyan ending, but it still leaves a lot of O nots of questions. What's going tohappen with Griffith and his pursuit of Newface is what's going to happen withGotson Cascos relationship is a going to be confrontation with between Gotsonand Griffith. Again got son, Cascara, sorry, CASCA and Griffe. We don't know,there's a lot of big big questions at me. Don't sing they could decide tojust say you know what we're just going to pack it in and that's that and no one could reallycomplain. The guys died, but you know so will take whatever we canget really yeah. I didn't know that he left himnotes and an outline of like where the story is going to go. So if you did dothat, then I'm happy for be assistant to continue it that, but at the same time, if I don't likeit I'll drop it I'd like to Sean read it so I e for Siyah a juggler doesn't exist yeah. I watchit for vives, but that's okay. I can alfaqui actually, so obviously we know me or died recently and it was and hada large list of health conditions. I can remember in two thousand andthirteen reports solve him having issues withhis health and all the way about them. We know there's a large possibilitythat the work load of being a magical led or contributed to his untimelydeath. What are your thoughts on the workingconditions that these manaca currently have the work under unacceptable yeahand it's gone a facilities? Now it's really disgusting, like everyone seen the schedule otherschedule, I don't know if that's oh I've seen that, but the one herelooking around yeah, he had like four hours a free time in a week and likehis whole life is sleep and one day in one day. You know, I think, one day itwas a Monday. He only gets two hours of sleep, so even in sleep, Bunny sleepsis scarce. So I, on with a team of...

...assistance, so you can imagine yeahshocking. Do big of a Mangachar like, for example, you've been at they gettreated like salems out there. You know that they do and they can just enjoytheir work and they wouldn't work under the typing conditions. That alwayssurprises me to know that you know Mandikas, I really respected. You knowJapan and obviously globally. So I fact that they allow that and allow thatkind of lots working conditions to be the norm. It just sucks me. I just seethis to happen. To may be a new start, a manger because he's really small andthey don't have that tea or support, but the big ones like yeah, O Dar, a Dand cantimer it's just. This is so shocking Belamedik, as is become it's almost like a lifestyle decision.I centa a monk Trina where you can no longer live a normal life being a man,a Co O. It's like your o you're, restricted to what you can do. You haveto sleep. A set number of hours you've got to take. You got to make sure thatyou Pritz your work over your health there's a limited time of family andfriends, and they have to understand that, and it's really sad and I don'tfeel like that- should be the case. I now I'm unaware as to how like, forexample in the UK and the Western World, how you know book, writers and OWriters and guys that are producing then creating and writing switch ofmovies work and their time skills and their life styles, but I've never heardof anything like it is in Japan. With my yeah I was gonna say because there'sother industries as like said book writers, Comic Prayers, I'm pretty sureif it was to that level, we'd hear about it. So why wouldn't they justfollow something? That's already in place these people, maybe back in the days. It was likethat for everyone, but like I'm, pretty sure, they've changed it now, and Idon't know why they're not you know doing the same. Like then, they havelike some kind of union there that helps them, like you know, kind of buffhope e Yeou, like on board of unions to less of Japan yea, but, like I don'tknow it just doesn't make sense because it's like I understand giving your life for acraft. You know you don't remember. Actually I remember a long time ago finding out that it took six months torelease to animate an episode of the Simptons Yeah that one step blew by myeven now, even till now yeah what Oulouda been quicker to you, menback in the day, so even till now it takes six sons to do one episode, asrecently as I've heard. Let me any case six months. I remember hearing thathome on the news and that's that's a twenty twenty five minute episode ofTelevision, which is difficult in itself. Imaginehaving imagine having to do so, which is a son on ten to six months, O Wel,Oh wow, yea, so imagine being the sole artist of anongoing series that releases on pretty much a weekly basis yeah. How are yougoing to have time for anything and even when they do take time off? Peoplecomplain that this Grove, but the complaints are ridiculous. I'sgot to ignore it, but I really think it's a cultural thing guys lie. Theyjust is and pressure from the publishers and so on Sicond. If there'sa cultural, because I read Web Trans Right and I think some of them aren't on from Asian countries. Some of themare from here and they still have that weird apologetic every time they missone week, they're like Oh, my go, I'm...

...so sorry. I had like a wrist cramp andOh, my mom died. I'm just like. Why do you feel, like you have to pander toyour fans? This much like you know just just apologizing over. He apologizeit's really toxic, because it's just like you have a life to it's just so Ican get a ten page chapter. It's not the end of the world, so I feel, like I don't know I latitant like it's so sothis is a free. This is something that's free, a Sunning to do it likesome. If you are a creative person, I just think it comes with it into sandyear. There's something you read and they went of there for six months and,like oh hope, you're. Okay, you know these are things soon to and they comeback like. Oh God, I had brain cat ser, my dad wasn't a coma. Sorry chapter e Bit of everything. I think, because Ilike the all familiar with like Japanese culture over work, that thisis a town for when people want to us to death. Yes, it it's almost honorable yeah yeah it it's like exclusive to Japan, but Ithink it's more like prevalent in Japan, a temperate, because even if here in theUK is like companies still feel like a forty hour work week is the standardlike everyone has to be in the office, the longer people in the office, themore output, but we knew in stales of sharing that that's not true, yes,Sally, just Yehoodee he's a trust employees so yeah, that's how it goes,and I think that's part of it, but also the kind of like vocation of creativework is not a part of it feeling of having to make a Pogie or to an breakseen that your health is failing and then obviously of a minder as big asbezers big as one piece the pressure from pabies, because he was it's justit's money, it's just the nature of the job and like their own. Like yourPossiblye, I think it's just a combination of what these things, but Ithink it light of this news. Definitely going to see less of like the mean kindof hot takes about all. I can't believe I e Chapter O, maybe for the short time, yeah alealest you that I've complained so many times about to Gastien breaks. Itut when, when you realize what man cars actually go through, like a Litel,have no right to complain, people, so people will still be complaining.People will still be complaining it just it just how Intel people feel theguesses e having issues with his health since the s yeah as crazy man. I don'tknow if any of the most of the issues are brought on because of you knowworming man dakers in the work. It's like I mean, if you see so, if you'reseeing that, then why would you want your creators, the only people that canactually treat the story to suffer and then risk a story ending half way andthen not even being able to benefit from it in the long term that itdoesn't it's not adding up like? I, I think, there's a, I think, there's a anissue where the businesses don't care. They needthe releases, they need the content. They need to sell their magazines. Youdo what it takes to get this out or will replace you the sum I I a comus can't replace like we say that, but after a while, youknow hundred sometimes n't been in jump for what nine hundred days wow spenthat now and then in that time, how many new mangirl? Oh you me replace this. The story completely. I goes on you can't repent to the fans,obviously to the fans, will always be the friendsbut to the general public to new viewers to people who might have aParson interest they're just going to...

...move on they're not going to care. Why am I one to commit myself to a showor a series where the MONECA hasn't written anything or despite anything inthe hundred days where I can watch distance constantly putting that weeklyreleases yeah there needs to be changed, thoughI know exact yeah definitely need to change. I never not really particularlyoptimistic, but I think in light of Disneys, and also I'm go cosque man,Gago Bank star, coming out and saying that you people need to stop passing me.Yes, they a MEX chatter. They only the energy they all Nesso. I'm feeding mybirds like about chronic incurable health condition. I lost a a I've gotnumbs. I got numb nerves and Ross and eye like my back, Hurts Yeah Havin O. It yeah, I haven't given up on gangster, but she's crazy do get it when I'mphysically able yeah and they all need to have the energy for like thestandard, but we no care about the creators and even though the money makers, but, asChris said, don't find somebody else to use your more productive and healthy intheir absence, which is sad but Muton lived the man house, we are in terribleworking conditions, I'm praying for a sic for to Gush and Odether you. It would hurt and re, but if the, ifthose two muneca to Ashe and o the war to say we commit this, this series e tt e, Say I'm not making any more but okay.Why? But I was gonna have to. I just have to come so that if they justsuddenly like die yea, I won't even know I D. I l have to accept it. A these me Iwill complete one piece on a or three like. Are you crazy? I will write myown fick from then. That is when my ran crit picked up like what are you to tell me that Shakoona,you so much material that we can create onepiece to piece, three piece for piece, one piece and a half. I listen o whathappen if one piece that just op know is going to be a competition of who canwrit the best thing so yahoo to see that cause that be fractions, e, Rivolo, contet, yes, the one I be tothe most is Zorns the ones that create a story with this or fans being a storyand a Salivas Grin Story. So you bomunates on we the first three or four chapters,and the last couple was just an IT. Was I his true, so it was I which one do you believethe author of Kishna. I can't believe how anonymous they found her. The article interview her, I don't. I ertalk out when we're honoring Entamer Sam to get stories story telling is justyes compose when I saw that publishing about storms, e publishing, bookswinking, but really find a person yeah,...

...but I bet it's been about for for ages.She just look about a people, a people in the intry beenknowing who years, but ever kind of news, the Specie, an opensecret, but nothing that comitats that had us sitting at the p. changing roomslike in a circ and person reading out for what E to really get out to thewhole, like one on a little brick lone yeah t the mad that this girl has hadyeah, Oh my God, no childhood like she needs to be given whatever prizes thatauthors get given. I don't know whether I abeat I want this is make sure theright person, the original creases, ossements Ben,claiming it. But now I alber we knew what the Tin Star as well and the way that itwas like you know. I don't know I to the people of the time. That's what I used. It is a nightmare. I won't readit. I only like that when they send me Texasin the out like that, I wouldn't be able toread m sorry like, but he should get best romantic story ever way betterthan fifty cents, Gray, O t, that's furkison peace can time. You're. Sorry, I didn'tread her anywhere life, but I wat on now your legacy and with a collect allthe dilucidations. Yes, but- and you find a fort on to a about the series-please the hassle man gake, he is online whenthey take a break. Go the week is a holiday okay. You don't ee o Chap ferscool at that Christmas, but yeah buse. Obviously I felt affected by these REDIMISTI NALand I even read it so again. Look cycle book a record. It just is to do what amaster piece. It was what a wet in in pact for series it was andyeah. I think the fandom is really shown out. So it makes me kind of happy,even though this is basines that his legacy okay on people have given himhis flowers. It made note of how he has, if yes with his other dunes and he'syeah, his name will still go on and this he as all go on. Even though he'snot here so yeah. Yes, that's a bomb yeah everyone my day. What should addis that essay serious and I definitely had to recommend the reader. I think,is important for people to know that some of the context with I beset like the morning yeah, if you're, ifyou haven't, read bearing not or you don't know, people have read it- thatthe all sexual valance, then sex, Ivilei desert. So if that's anothertype of contendit you're able to to re through your comic cal or engaged with,then I definitely don't think that you should. You should read it. Yeahtrigger ownings on go sexual violence and stuff like that, so that money said the read it if you'resensitive to stuff, like that, I can go for him. One of the greatstores you ever read, Honestly Yeah Yeah and I'm also suck, because I canon getting the tire collection, but the Delacombe, I'm also told I don't knowif I should get the one at Chris has got cat's, got the pick actual pictureson it: o Fathers a deloitte right now,...

...there's sorry, I think, for o latest toone and there's three volumes in each. How many volumes are out into how manyvolumes are there t I want to say Chris a round for it quite a few so which onehas the fault? Is the other? Well no pace back. The Lot edition hasn't quityet the people back as your especial to pay hard, I'm just one of aversion, forty volumes phone I'll collect our sole collection andyear by our mango, when you can yeah an a e Pace, love that you worry about me a ranter book stuff over there. Behind myhats, I love to see that we definitely have a episode talking about sellingmango and enemies. Sure I'm going to talk about you, our that is my king. Ijust when me or died. That's why I got to say emotion a for this is the wayyou lot were reacting this. I would feel if I got the news that you saw Idied really. I was like. I still need to finish. One Star Might Star: Tea Sat the first. The first tramp yeahcall the first chapter, l fistusses, so I the man go, but I'm on said the anime,but I don't know. I think I might try the man go instead, but I thought it batimens well done andthat's what people have been saying anyway, so oursis like Sim in a similar being oneof the greatest story: tenders, in my opinion, they're just in mango, butjust in general, but TV film to it yeah and again just is just one guy's.Imagine me brain bruce very these or should be considered geniuses honestlyto come up with such such stories and are like. I think thegenius says cool well, we've been for as academia.Thank you for listening, make sure you follow us on Yuture, twitter, twitch,tick, up, pottey everything just so everything will beon the also. If there's any questions you wantus to answer, send them fit to us on twitter, DM and at his court anddiscord. Do we get to Jona this car to and yeah we'll see you next week, but he's.

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