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Episode 33 · 1 year ago

SLS & Love Triangles || Episode 33

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

As it was Valentine's day recently, the ladies of 4 Eyes Academia got together with special guests to explore the themes of Second Lead Syndrome and Love Triangles which are very often displayed in shojo manga/anime series and K Dramas! 

On this episode: @tudzdotexe @abi_mulan

Guests: @thebakahime @noi_ce_ @_shakira

Everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the four as academia podcast. This is episode thirty three and today we'll be discussing everything to do with second need syndrome and anime and dramas, and today I'm joined by Press Aka, her Dat if at, Aka, debarky, he may, Shakira Abby and a stell. Say Hi everyone. Yeah, okay, guys, but I do so. I know we're all veterans in this thing. So we'll have a lot to discuss, but I just wanted to ask one question to kick things off. You just have one thing to discuss and that is the new anime being developed by address and Sabrina Elba. So just to read the article, it says countrirol has announced that it's developing the dark fantasy animated series called Dantai, which is a working title with address and Sabrina Elba. Addresses Green door pictures and Sabrina's pink towel pictures are partnering for the project. Control describes the series and is an Afro Futuristic Science Fiction series set in a set city. But the rise of biotechnology has created an ever widening gap between the halves and have knots to rising stars from either side of this divide are pitted against each other in the story that will ultimateiate exploit equality in kinship within the corrupt society. So I personally didn't know that good, it's that's cooler. Owned a production company's quite cool. That does sound called. I'm just wondering, like so is it going to be a Mecha? Gonna be? Yeah, after reason by the synopsis, I don't think there's. If there was going to be a method, they would have been robot somewhere. I mean bio Scifi, bio technology. What MECCO is very specific. MECO is like yeah, very much, that's true. You have to worry be than xtime. That's what I'm going to say. You know the animation is and these particular now you know what I reckon. aimation will come out decent. My problem is, like what houses come up like Jaden Smith's animators absolutely not represent like fixed thing and maybe because it's the next fix thing, it would be yeah, yeah, hopefully. And it's like Western storytelling is different to like completely Japanese fortelling. So I don't know they can even fit, you know, the vibe of our animate if or if that's not even what they're going for and they just want the anime look, but they'll make it all different. I don't know. You know what, I gotta give it a crack to know. I mean, I'm not charge right, yeah, yes, or watching it. I Trust I trust them. It go. I'm just scared because crunchy're all speaking of control. We should mention yours, a dark skin bay bring up I think. I think it's I think we sent in the chat um got skin behavior. I've been off socials, so I don't know what you guys are talking about. When is a doing the SEC? They're great where? Wait, they're lazy, of like you know, I can't remember. It was like two characters, but one was dragging the other person's cap. I think it'll superman. Actually, yeah, it's the news. It says I became can't find the two any more because obviously you got deleted after they got a vlogged on to it. People. I think I might have liked to screen shot. Let me have a look. I've got the screenshot. Okay, it says news. I became a dark skin Gal, so I tried to bang my best friend. That's the name of the show and hentime manger gets TV, anime not safe for work more and this link and people are just like these two very tanned individuals are dark skin but we need to start guy, like, yeah, I think they are barely time. First of all. Yeah, they go. I don't know where they're getting dots in from. I guess. I guess compared to, honestly, Genma Collins and darker than themcalls. This isn't mean that they put hold of this is fucking Hellari said way right there. Oh, listen, count roll,...

I don't know what you were thinking. This is this is what I mean. Like, do you guys not have any black people in your social media team, like before you tweet that? I don't know, like, is it going to I don't know. I know, I know where people are coming from with this, because the tea was very like, but I think it's more of an issue of cunture. Has All this money as so case by all, the animated turn out got on bad. You think maybe they got the copy from a Japanese studio. That's why I'm saying they did do the due diligence to do the proper tray. Yeah, yeah, the dusking gout. There's the whole thing about yarry culture in Japan. You think, like esthetic is being like very tan and very dark. So, yeah, it's dead. Yeah, girls are actually had flash, flashy maker like make up. You Know Nanna, you know the hat. She's oldest or younger sister. She's like ridiculously. Yeah, yeah, I think it's just the translation. They meeting station translations. Girl. They did put and there's no contextualization in the tweet. Like if they put at all anything to do with that. Go or gear room, I'm sure people have been like, okay, what's yeah, we would have understood they really said gown, like hold on, what what sp I mean there's so many things wrong with the whole thing anyway, like this is high school girls are talking about, like a really, yeah, because that's like that's where maybe Gary Culture comes from as well, like it's all that's true. Things wrong with that way, too many things wrong. Over sexualizing darting girls in high school like could really funcial. Really, is this where you want to this is the really want to die way? Right there were like there, I think we're our look at contro or. Is just the tweet itself is like you knew how this was going to be pussy if you could have wanted. Yeah, I think brands just know that it gets attentions and he just do it. I was like you could have, even if the subject matter it self is problematic, that high school girls and being sexualized, on that stuff, and yeah, license it anyway you could put better. It's all about a translation. I'm sorry, we're not idiots. We're all in anime community. We know Garry whatever. So, like we would have known if you if you said it in that way, but you really said darts can go out and but a lightly time picture of a girl being in, a high school girl aparently being sexual as okay, you really a drug. You to feel fun. That's what people have been doing. So, yeah, it needs this week, and that onto the main topic of discussion, and we are discussing everything to do with secondly syndrome. I can see Squire as ready on right rightsizing everything to do with secondly syndrome in dramas and anime. But just to be specific, are second need syndrome is a term specific to k dramas. So the way we're using it for anime this discussion is just to talk about any may love triangles. So the first question, I'm just going to pick on somebody to start off, is do you remember your first case of Second Need Syndrome in a drama? And I'm going to pick on I fact, where Hanna, your I dango, so like the Japanese version of can't always over flowers. I think. Oh yeah, yeah, no, the main character is just a no go for me. He was like really aggressive, just to hate in general. Why? Why? Just why? There's the secondly, so loving, care. Why did they loving and caring guys always gets slept on. Just why? It's in Solbate. But if you're nice, all, no legit. A dramas will make the perfect like perfect man, like Papa. Let me do the cooking, let me do the cleaning. Okay, YEA friend of husband materials and then they'll be like you're the second lead less the one. You should go for the deck head, because that's what you deserve. I loved you from day one. I was there before. You need him friend as well. Add to that. Listen, we put the childhood friends in the Bin, Guy, and you know what? Is Pretty realistic, because girls always go for the for theopriate. They're coming my head out. Yeah, I think for me in. John Iour got into...

...this drama game, I think, relatively late and he's compared to everyone else in this call. So my first drama was cheasing the trap from the web tune, which I was obsessed with, and I watched a drama and everything that was wrong with the main lead in the web team. It's actually the same shit in to be they just scruked to put extra spa and Maggie and they just make even more problematically like the main leaders. Like he's so aloof which is an interesting in the beginning, that he see mysterious some of the what's. Yeah, but when you find all it's just like he's like literally he's like, I don't know what he's problem. I think he was like a diving clinically diagnos psychopath. I think that. I don't think I watched that that many episode and you like a history of like violence. My son. He was like a hack, a fast or something. Oh Damn, guys, something dark. Remember Room again. It was different in the Webtune and then different in the drama, but there was like and it's like like the main characters like Oh, what's the actresses name? I love her. She was in Kim going. I'm getting she's a bobbing is all she could anything like that. But I was amazing is she played the main character so well and like yeah, she did really hard working. She's like yeah, I came here to read book. I didn't have time for boy drama, and that's it. So the first acted that well written was much of a male lead like that. He was just like a prick, like so leof and cold, and I even when you want to feel sympathetic for him, is like he can't know. The second lead, not only is he foreign, playful banter, he's generally car he was he was protective, he was a gentleman, he knew when to be there, he knew went to back off. You know, it was just perfect. Only we're getting into the only time where second the syndrome is got me to point, like because you see, when you have second beating Jim, you could be second need, but you know real this second she's going to end up with the main need and that's okay because you like the media. Yeah, yeah, but this guy is just like no, you did my God, like that, soldiers, I do. Honestly. She's in the tree. Yeah, really, what Kay drums are saying women don't know what they was good for them. Like, Oh, legit. So I think we should unpack that homes. So, John My God, right now, don't get me started. But I didn't, you know what, the animal. I don't really get a second need syndrome. I typically watch the one who are like the couple is doing okay, like on their own, like there's no one else in walls. But the one I did watch, Nana, I was rooting for the toxic king president. I mean, can I say I didn't recount? I'm not. I'm sorry, but like what for more? Yeah, literally did not like any other kind of that, apart from the king. When he came around, I was like if I d you know what, yet dad so much had. She did know what was good for her, telling me had to come in. He's me. She was going off to love, and there's not another end look to please. I think none is not a person that will thrive well off of warm love, like even like how Nana is. You know, I loved the other Nana. She needs unemotional feel. What I next? Taking care of what you just she just needs to simply taking care of a house, some food. You know I mean some friends, as I have no expect for her. So you can say what you want, right. No, because I feel like she can't. She she can't look after herself, like I really can't. She's an idiot. But who was? Who was the able? The baby, fucking dumb ass, blond guy? No, broom, no, no, loser guy. Thank you. If they if they got together, Don Sh showing. You know it. No, no, guys, think about it. No, Bruin Ana, think, gettink A, Barry. What? That's not a reckless show? Let me know, and that's what we need. Idiots. Think about your dren. This is that, then think about how to Kui. Yet they and he's got the whole time. It was so hard to watch her. Like they would have fawn up where she really was with you can't even speak that. You're just know guys, and you know they were like had a house together and they started to do adult things. I Reckon Nana would have just been like Brob, you are so annoyed, like you can't do anything right. I need to, but like she's gonna be like,...

...okay, it goes. It's for the best. You know how she does her shit. That's what she'll do. To My boot and maybe will be left in the ditch once a game. So what? What is to me? She's some bread, light as in money. He she just needs looking at locus. I'm sorry, like there's no one for her apart from him, but I'm just saying so, I guess. So, no, Boo, no boon. Nobody deserves a better person. Yeah, needs a strong woman like she did. Not So, so he needs not talk of me. Imagine. There go let me be spicy for a second. You guys are making all these excuses for Nybe like, oh, but they'be say Nice, you're taken music, assholes, like it would have been so kick together and now we can all. We can all like agree that Nana is hike, useless and child, as should can't take care of herself. Or making all these excuses for nabu Ni booth, also Childi should art take her. Oh, let's get into it. Where another guy telling me had to raise his kid. So, honestly, what's that? SISS was never pregnantical was it? He can need to continue do what he makes your strong man. I see that here is one else. Sony is stable. It is I don't give a fuck. I well let. You guys are forgetting round out right. Okay, okay, wait, yeah, he was doing this whole I'll take care of you bad yeah, it would have failed. It would have failed. The thing like, even then, he will step it up, when he was like, I will do it. It's just he didn't get the chance. We do it. So you guys call them, is it classes? There's only so much that you guys can say that. He would have it. Yeah, I think. I think, because we should do another real emotionally unintelligent. He would have been a dickhead. You would have been that dad that you reset. What because he has money, you can take care of someone. Nob would have shown love. It looks what have been a course. The day would have been changing the DADS. He would have been one. I was more important to it. HOLD GROWING UP, love, not money. Residents Nice to my father, love me very much, but you're broke. Okay, what's point? I don't understand money like that day and start loving the tension. But they also understand policy cause, you know, honestly, forty. I'm just saying honestly. What more can I say? Like maybe and tell me is okay. You know it's, don't you? Know what? That is the more of the story. But you know what I will do? I'll watch that again, because I watched it a few years ago. Maybe I was in my if it's said the Sayd I think back. So I watch it again and let's see how I feel. For no boo butter, just fromber thinking what a loser like. Actually, Shit, you were in your diamonds, Darcy, different perspectives. It all right, relax rely. Yeah, but you know what, actually, do you know? I think I'm a softy, Dow because with you know, as atalk quite a secondly, secondly, always so sweet and lovely, and I'm like you don't think I tell you the room, the need syndrome. Thing in Nana actually is is he absolute? Let me say was, it's true, was the guy, and that he was for the other Nan, the right fun. Yeah, yeah, that reason. But she picked her topic. He needed anything. He was there for her, hair of her he's you know, he put her career on track. Yeah, the bench. You know what everyone needs, a y suit. He was tall. See that, absolutely guy, finial gold, but looks, you know, I think the board was added to it. Please keep goring ready. Yes, yes, this is the s Stan Club man? No and yes, in need right now. Yeah, Alys, but what the first? Not the first time, because the first time was in Anime, but the first K drama one. I was just disgusted by. She was pretty, I think it's called there. First of all, he was an asshole. What is your actual problem? He was a Dick head to her and he was her boss. I think. Yeah, he was. Hmm, he was nasty. And then you have your coworker who is so nice, he's good looking, you know, he's he's charming, he's fucking funny. You know you, Punta. Why? What was it? What was the reason? Because he was a childhood friend that you were in love with when you were children and like, I just I couldn't. I couldn't.

I can understand it. I was never room for them from the VIRTU or the very end. I never found the cut. I was at you guys suck. You went each wow waiter, like you never warm to it, I think, not alf the time. Once you know actually friend, the tall one, the really pretty one, with their then then know he was so good, he was so good. I actually I was so pissed off. I was like, what is this? Why did you make the perfect man and then just leave him in the dust. Why? Why would you do that? was A I was like women are crazy, we don't know what we want. But you know what, yeah, sometimes when they make the second lead so perfect and everybody's like why the hell would you pick the main, it's always like they add like little bits to the first and mate the first lead and the main characters relationship. That's kind of like, you know what, you guys just wife like. That's what it is. It's been a little still vibes that you got, but I haven't even watched that once. I might have to check that one out. You need to. UN I realized that like the whole childhood's friend kind of Trophi is used a lot as to why like the two mains should be together. I don't know, I see dramas is kind of the opposite. It's always just like, you know, my hometown, my parents used to say I should be with this person, but now come to college universities like yeah, I don't listen to what my parents say. But then like every time the childhood friend comes around, they're like obsessed with the main. They're like women to be together. Then the persons like you know, I want to be with my college girlfriend for them. Yeah, childhood friends is I think it's a bit fifty fifty these days. I've seen a lot of childhood friends get rejected in them. Now. I Know Nana is one we're all familiar with, but I have a list here. This is an article on CBR thatwcome. I think we're all familiar with it, least you guys that watch that marble stuff will be familiar with this stuff. But they have an ARTECO called the fifteen most iconic anime love triangles. So I was just going to go through them in a see do any familiar ones, just to drop people's memories, because I know we will been like watching and reading show Joe since like childhood. The fifteen place. I have a head of this one. It's called white album. took place in fourteen space. You have neon, genesis, if Evangelian, so a suker, Shini and Ray. It's anything whatever like really that? Yeah, I mean force to that one. Yeahs on the list. Really, yes, forced. See, I've never watched Evangelian because I felt like it's a bit too for my like I'm not a Mecca Fan. Gut You know, I'm a MECA, but Evangelio antimcord's big clue. I can't lie around side psych he I saw a clip of the final scene on the final episode of just so she's fit. He's a bit bleak for me. With Shein. She's like at's a Suker's bedside and he does something really weird and gross. Now, just like. It wasn't finished, though, super we just watch it as hard. I've been talking about one UN finished anime this whole time to be continued. This whole time. They kill me. There's been lots of like movies, if I recorded correctly, and spinoffs, but not the real conclusion. Oh she this episode is going to go out. Them like these people on this podcast are fake. But you even watch any watch watch anim this last of love superior to Shit battle showing in absolutely anyone for fin give me some of that slats of life any time other for any time, any day. Hey, I'm gonna go for college. Who read those problems? Please not the world time exactly in thirteen place. There's I don't know anyone here watch this. I watched. He's a one. Are Zero. Yes, that one, that one. I agree. I was team Amilia in Suberu and Ram. No, I'll keep read. Everyone was all right, every team ground. Another woman who don't know what he wants at this fun kid. How know he was a Dickhead, because what the hell? What did he had that two season Amilia, and then there's M and him, like they were there this whole time struggling. I don't know what the fuck the animal is anymore. Hoh, I like. Was He moving back in time? Going for I can't remember, but all I know is him and m went through a lot. and You you're choosing a media for what? Because she let you sleep on your lap, on her lap one time. She pretty yeah, Ye, both cute, MS, cute as hell. Don't even Piss me off. I just got a...

...twin, so I mean, and somehow a bonus. So let me okay to talk before we went to talk place, just to like twist knife. Who have this quote here, because I love Emilia or words. Any Fan of Ur zero shouldn't know. Despite super saying this to ram for good reason, it did not hurt any less. The love triangle between the media, seeber and Ram can go on for a long time, as see what do, and he has eyes for a Melia in a romantic sense, despite fans wishing for him to love Ram back. But how dedicated she is, this love triangle is perhaps going to stay a one way streak for a long time, perhaps even until the light novel ends, as Woman and media get along quite well. The also hates women because, well, would you do that? Would Love Story? Come on now, you can't give her this sign at the end, like something make her happy. Don't never get made happy guys like how being here a hundred times, I mean teaching me a gave soccer or something, but now she's raising that something alone. Let's go my minute. It was gonna end anyway. Does Not Susk, it does not lost suffers, let's knows, twelve years old, saying I love you so much, I love you and you like you're annoying, like your friends dead, but I'm different. I love you in tough place we have. You know of the one I started this one yet, but I said hacks on and Yona and see one. We all know it's hacks an, only like she loved her cousin for like a day until he, you know, did what he did. Not gonna Spoil Anything, even though in the first or two was a thousand. What did you say? Loved her cousin. Yeah, back in the days, you know, it was really it's about ancient times in it. Okay, it's everyone married each yeah, everyone married. YEA, so families and the families. But I was like, I hear cousin right, like he was fine, let me not lie. That's relaxed. Well, sir. No, sir, that's relaxed, but he was fine. So, but yeah, no, he yeah, he did. He did sign that made her not love him anymore. For good reason, because if she still loved him, then you know. So I can't say it's it's it's a second need syndrome, because I think he's the main lead now, like he's been the main needs third or fourth episode. So I'm just secondly, as in the cousin should be with Jana. Then they're twisted, because what the fuck. But I don't think that's what they're saying. Hack. Okay, yeah, because I'm reading the creat here under the entry and that the spoiler. You're talking about his right there. So maybe that deep and it's literally the first episode. Yeah, it's definitely an episode. You can't be him after him doing that. Okay, in eleven place. Did Anyone Watch kiss, SIS KISS and sent Tipe? But I mean it is, you know, it's as Chy if anything. Yes, I would to say hence I is an edgy and I don't know what the fuck they're saying about. Secondly, because they're twin sisters. And then I've been all related the step yes, that's it, their stepbrothers and sisters, and there's twins. And he isn't a wish tance. You are you sick? A comedy and that's it. There's no, a lot of tringles and actually, okay, we're moving up to face. I've never had a diswander. Don't know if anyone he has. Nagi Assu along, yes, the love in the sea. Yes, that was it. That was the secondly, syndrome, and she ended up with the one I wanted. I don't know which one is the second. Mean that success seat? That's a success story. Yeah, for everyone end up the right person. That's what I'm saying. So my Knaka and Hikari and Chisaki. She suck's the girl. I don't know what the names of the guys are. Humember which one and act make Eider. Hikari Sakashima, Chisaki, hit a dader. I don't remember any of the names. Hey, they end up with the right the right people. That's what I know and I love that. Anime is so cute and the soundtrack is amazing. I saw have on my fend. I think I love the soundtrack. was a very ky Niman. I should watch it's really, really cute. That's also cool. Now you are seeing the sea. It's some of them, thinks I she came on. Let's watch the other day. Yeah, Oh, it's really good. I love it. In nine place is skinny. Did Anyone Watch that? Have watched that, but I don't remember. I read it back in square. Don't remember how it ended at it. Yeah, I shouldn't get second lead syndrome because he's a Dick. But orris as we understand. Yeah, if he yes, I...

...think it was made clear in the last episode that you are in no, but is fine, you know, just a little, come on a little bit. But like the main guy, he just gets boring after a while. He's too much more, like it's too much more. Don't like them. GRANDPA, this place is Cockada. Connect that. I'll be right back five minutes. Oh, cocker connects it. Hous, I going to work in editing. If one person's camera is gone the star, it depends on what's you can just depends on which segment we select. So this my I'm not doing visuals this weeek. I'm doing audio, but we've never done it. They might just could be skip this part and gone to the next bit. Chris is get hate us. So should be. YEA Christ year that I've been last bat was like should it's fine, as long as we just be arranged the outline. It could just be five or whatever. Okay, this school is cool. She's hurry on. Yeah, okay. So in Senna's place, is she hat? She Hire Foo? Oh Oh, yes, that is a second Lea Syndrome as hell. Wait, hold on tight, Chea. You know I get so angry. I hate her, I hate wait, wait, wait, men, you eat them one girl. Let Me Tichi man. Why my boy suffering? Because I'm in the Bron Guy Right, because he's the only one. I don't know what I care about. For some reason she's planning for the ugly dude. I've never heard of this. I've never heard of this animy whatever. She was. The Ugly Guy I was like sis, you got a hunk that is loving you, off right next to you and he's there all the time, supporting you know, the supported King he is. And you want the mysterious country bumpkin that lives not the right no, in the in in in the country side. He just he knows how to play cards. Mon's a Yugio like card playoff. He has not a lot of one. And that's who over the king like next to you or I can't. She is an idea, she is right. I love her, but she's in the dature. She's cute, but she's nice, but like the suffering he went through because of her, it hurts me so bad. I think I've only watched two season. Yes, but that's enough. Listen, How many seas you have to go through to to realize that the guy that's meant for you is right now see you like bitch when they read more context for information, just for mine, steals and Shakia's sake, so says in the classic example of a childhood friend against this transfer student she hire for he has a love triangle between Tai Chi Mashima and a data what are towards? She higher, I as say. She hire is a Tomboy and the love interest for childhood friend Tai Chi. Tai Chi has everything going for him, but we're admit, his feeling switch a higher due to transfer student rata and data is the opposite of Taichi, but shares a common interest in Kurata, which is the car game with Chihiha Jehiah inspires him to keep playing. It's a beautiful anime and I'm not like. It's a beautiful I love the I love learning new things about the Japanese culture and the Card Games really interesting. But she's an idiot because he's right. He's right there, says the guy for you is right there. The transfer student is cure as hell, but you're because he's good at playing card. I just don't understand. It's literally because she's infatuated with his skills and a she's it and she's not understanding. She's person it's not his personality at all. You don't like him, you barely know him. Like me, because I'm looking at the prom a pick here and I think Tai Chi's one of the brown hair, Brown and the transfer and the transfer stients got the black hair. Yeah, no, no, no, going around Tai Chios, one of the glasses in the black hair. No, no, she got at the right way of that. I don't know. The woman WHO's the child in front isn't the guy with the glasses. Now that, but that's all right, all rats. I watched this. I'm going by the information here. Story, clearly, but why? She's got brand eyes on make the you know, to becore hot for person. Yes, yes, yeah, and then our ratis got the glasses and black hair. Yeah, and she loves the because Tache is cute. From this ti she's the one tie is a cute one. You've got one losses. That's the one. Period, really emotional but serious. So funny. If if guys, guys, I'm back. I'm back. So sure, hey, this is attemptive when you're at home grown. Yeah, in fact, rap up your point. my point is just Ti Chi. That's it. Tight, Che tied. I Chee the end. I mean this was on my list, but I think I'm a the end. Yes, you do, yes, you...

...do, you okay, story. That's higher threw. She hire. It's cute as hell, but the girl will I because she doesn't know what's good for. I still can't believe it. Like he's not even as attractive, but I don't know what's what his appeal is. Oh, I don't get game is an idiot. Okay, yeah, he knows how to play. You Gi out. That's it. What you can in sixth place. This is a classic in the Yasha Kikia and in the Asha and Kigo. Me, you haven't watch that? Yeah, more lost, more so love triangle. Those like a lad sure, yeah, but even then, like he ends up. I mean, I don't know if I should be said, but like him, and Kugome is like the one. You gotta understand why Kikier even comes into this spirit. She's just that anyway. She's like a hold on. But I think it was more so love triangle than second leads, because we don't really I don't know, with key Kres just like yeah, she's pots up here and there, and it's her spirits, not even like her spirits is not she's not actual beings. Is a ghost, and the basically love triangle. Yeah, she's one of those characters to author Thoris in just to make things not as easy for them. Basically, okay, what happens in the Asha? Say, we got kid now, so what's up? Oh, yeah, we see what the Promo for the series not with the ghost now. Okay, is that working? Okay, so fifth place is Anohannah. Has Anyone seen that? I don't know, the sad one, but it wasn't loved. Ye, that one again. She's a ghost as well. So why are we stressed? So there's there was a lot. I'm reading that, the character's names and on. You know, love trying. So it's Makohn Maa, Gina, your Doomi and Nariko Angel. I need to see it. You're really telling me the names that I'm going to remember any of them? I better remember my buddy's name. So okay, to be wrong. Be there. The next entry is just going to I'm go, Oh damn, I didn't know why the author did this. And now see what kind of site this is. After this was a repeatable site. I see the type of bitch you are, type of raggedy ditch who read this article. As IAH Jones, please look for you, please at me. I have words in fourth place. Guess what he put in fourth place. Well, I don't know what kind of Nargo school days and school days. I don't because I've seen it. This is a man who needs to be extinguished. The one with the younger is inside of the end. then she literally murders everybody. Yeah, this other love interest ditched her for this girl and she went back to the guy, saying that she's pregnant to try and get back. It's like this petain pregnant. She show us to have house with a knife and stabs it to death and then comes out her abdomen as like yeah, I need were like, bitch, a pregnant what I what scored in this one. She kills the other and this she loved shed off. She's like now we can be together forever, and that's how the fucking anime ends. And they put this in number four in this list. Damn, I mean surely is a love triangles. Yeah, I'm sure there's too many. Isaia Jones, need to make sure fund the right one. I'M gonna at him on twitter. If you're watching this for some weird reason, you don't worry, I just will come. All coming for you in that place is vampire night zero. Carry you, Yuki Cross, and can now make her on this happy. We always knew it was going to be zero, because who the hell else would you be with? But then they are. Surely Hannah has fall it, because that is a mad spoil I which I was disgusted and shocked at the end when we find out if the good latist. I guess it's sick. I was at what the Fuck is wrong with you guys? I this is already a twisted show, and you had to add that. This is just no like. But Zero King, when she does end up with him, right, can't. kind of it's all and you know as you want between the two. Baby is like a few dream to me. I how I remember watching it and it just feels like a few dream, like I don't know half the shit that was going on. Everyone was good looking, that's all I remember. But zero was king, I. He was bu one. He was a dick head, but in a nice way. You know them, because I like the Sunder right. He'Sndra. Yes, that's it, that's the nave, but just like in a rocky way. Yeah, yeah, exactly. He just didn't know how to and you had the rough childhood, so I think, if I remember collecting. So yeah, but you know what, the he was a Dickhead, but not as much as the main. I was a big difficult my body's scary like he reminds you of taking me. How I like that. That's some kind of Vale. Gives me like that,...

...unemotional, like you know, I'm better than everyone, superior kind of us as how Sha as well. Huh? He used her book, like Yes, yeah, Mane, he's twisted. So, yeah, but I was, I was from I guess he was. The secondly, because for the form a long time, I thought she's going to end up with the other guy, dark hair. But then, yeah, so I kind of did. Yeah, even though when, even when she was like her time with zero, she still was like in love. Yeah, exactly, and and then they added that little problems. You really deserve better. He did, he did, he did choose. She was Annay. Was the name? Yuri? I don't know, but she's online. Yeah, Yuki, Yuki. Yeah, I means your kings is of Shit. Okay, second place, I'm going to be that beef like's Notsis as well. So it's freaks basket, just like it is like sentimental to me. Was the first Manga I read. So and this triangle is Yuqi Sama, Y Honda and Kiyosama. So top to tourism make character. She moves into the SA my household earlier in the series where she meets Yuki and Kio and from what I remember from the Manga, and it didn't, anime got a reboot recently. That actually, Dude's probably the first time I've seen a reboot that's way better than original. I really. Yeah, the one Netflix or was it something else? I can't I'm original. I've been on let LEX with a real is on crunchy rag anime. Yeah, funnimation, funny. They make their measin in it. Yeah, but like, I remember watching the original anime and not enjoying it that much. But I love the manger and I remember like the kind of pushes. They kind of push you to like Yuki and to for the bulk of like the early stages of the manger, and the whole time I was dousing it. I just didn't see the appeal he's meant to be, like the school prints and the hot for them just like here is right there. You know it's going on in the reboother La. I was actually a bit I'm still team cute. I don't know what, but then I did see the pool Uke like he was cute. Like I see it that as it. If she end up with either of them. It's whatever, but it's already it's always team Qure, like he's the one. But I've never actually seen who she ends up with as just one of those really drawn out animes. I'm not I can't remember ending either. I don't think I can watch the ending, like you never end of the season one and never ended his season two. You don't get some kind of conclusion. If you guys did mind the spoiler? Yeah, tell me, don't worry everyone. Who's who ends up with? I'm I've been trying to keep it quiet our OA. Okay, mind, I don't know. Like. So you get closure? Huh? Based coming though? Right, it did. She does end up with someone, because it just seems like she's a bit she's just she's clueless, like I can see this girl not ending up of anyone for good few seasons. You know, there's only one more season that. You're good. Oh Turn God, okay, but I do love a she I love, I love. This is one of the first times I love the main need like she's so cute. So I as cute without being like annoying. Yeah, exactly, man, how clolness like that? She's clueless. I don't know that she's no more miss o Danny. A woman wrote it exactly what they women. There you go. The only exception is Ayaz are. Apparently there's none of case of this different, because none of case in the mess in the way that's relatable you can like. Okay, I can see how she's the best, but it's still annoying to watch. But okay, it's fine. Speaking of an okay, guess what, guess what's Love Triangles in first space? Of course it is. No Bear, Nana and tucking me, of course is. We're not having this conversation again round fighting one day, guys, we know who the real man is in the situation. Well Anyway. But yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah, that's all. I was expecting to be in there, which I don't know. I guess it's not an iconic anime, but I remember like when, well, I didn't know half you at the time, but like skids and who I remember who we were watching it. Orange, yes, but yeah, yeah, I didn't really like the second lead in that I was happy she ended up. Yeah, I was actually happy shown up with the media, even though I did like him a lot. But Orange, I haven't watched orange. How I did it. I remember when you are watching it in depth, was crying. I was like so you was like actually, kind of. Yeah, the picture. She read it. Yeah, read...

...it. I'm a hard copy in the Manga. My start reading. It's blue, spring ride and orange. You have a loose your fake show Er. I'm sorry, but anything I'm not listen. You're right next to me. We're both in northwest. Let's get it. Who None, nony. Take to see who is the basics first. How are you watching? About watching? That's like that. That's like the sounding level, like this thing. It is lie. Is Really which we came first? Lovely Complex Himany Kimi knows how there's an yeah, I regular in the Japanese name. When you guys said this leads me to my that's what, which is ours, going to say. So that's another question I had, because that the discussion more more or less like candles itself when we talked about this stuff. But I want to ask out people's like general sentiments towards that, things that love triangles and second he sing gem because personally, I think when I was younger and then reading show Joe, let me make the foundational stuff. You're going to come in you're gonna come across. It's just one of the like main themes and showed you. But the older I get, I deliberately seek out stuff where it's like here's a man, here's a woman, or he's a man, another man, but here's a woman, another woman, whatever. They meet each other the lake, let's get married and that's it. Like does into the triangles where to Koy Sweat, and so we love each other, we go on days, we get married, we have sense. I don't care about no, there's Love Triangle Shit. That is true. Nervous when I see a lot. I'm right. This is relax beauty, because the dramas so much more. Yeah, so much was just out up in a Webton like that, because even though you're strang about. So it was reading the teams, like have you seen the past? Like three last one or two tracks actors to catch up. Got dthing happened in the I read and Yeahs, but like it's so slow right now. I feel like she's just thinking at the moment. Yeah, she's right now. What that that she needs to need turns herself because she just she's just, you know, like you need to you need to relax. It and she's aid alcoholic. She's an Alkey, like she's not what alcoholic? Hello, she's drunk every time. I she's every she's drunk every other to you know, I'm really putting the lines right now, this least one behind them. It's drunk, drunk, every other chapter. This girl has issues to do with but thank you. Want to just this. I'm like, I'm like, I'm looking back, like you, like I said, what baby, she's this. She needs help. So you'ly crying out the hell. Like she needs she needs to seek that, you know, a meeting, a sack, you know. So I feel bad for her, but she needs to do a lot and it's the first time. I don't want to see if anyone. I don't want to see her with anyone. She's well, SIS, you're gonna be disappointed. Women met on the sky, fish and Princess Jennie. Yes, yes, does anyone right? No, true, like I do love that for her, like I love Princess Jellyfish. Such a cute anima. I right now, and Amazon, you know I mean. I need to watch that. It's a bring the synopsis. It looks like wow, this sounds amazing. What resting. Well to know what, guys, the thing about avoiding love triangles use days is that you're gonna get hit with something else, which is like remember, oh my Venus Karatas, we're happened. fucking what this guy's they had problems at work. Oh yeah, it was. Yeah, the guy was had that condition. It was. It was a disabilizing condition. U Isn't hospital for two years, like even before that, she had a store car, the police. Oh God, it was able. Listen, it was every fish. I was like, you know what, give me a colleague that's here. You are not trying character death. Which one me? I could you know a triangle here. Listen, it is the lesser of two evils. Sometimes it is. Oh Do you know what? I watched the see drama. That was a really good triangle, like okay, this is a good one, but it's good forever love. And it's basically this girl who meets this guy in school. So it starts off in school, like as in high school, and he's like the bad boy of the school, but he's super smart and the only ones that...

...really got along. And then what's something happened. Both like disconnected. They went to uni and her childhood friend is now like the one that everybody thought that she was going to be with. It's this guy who that her parents always wanted her to be with, and he was like, I'm going to wait for you when to come, when you come to uni, and she's like yeah, thanks, but she's not really like interested and him. She just thinks that he's like the older bro He's gonna help her out while she goes to uni. And then so she gets she gets to Uni and then the guy that she met at school is now at the Union. Now they're together and they're such a nice couple and the and the childhood friend keeps trying to fuck it up, but they're always like yeah, but I like Duces douces due. It's like they try to fall to the light love triangle so hard. But it was like the two maids were just so like into each other that the other guy didn't exist. It was a good one. Yeah, and it was so annoying because it was like the girl is like a rich girl and the other guy's not, but he makes good money for himself that he's doing his thing. He's like a genius, so he keeps making money out of nowhere and one day she gets her job at tooting, we sent tutoring center, and the childhood friend is like not, you got job. If you are with me, you wouldn't need a job. Blah, blah, blah. She's like they got like I'm already rich, like I just want to get a job because I want to, you know, do things with my life. And he's going back to other guy, like you. Let her get a job. I don't believe you didn't a second nigger get how this in broke like secondies like that, because it is the easy to hate. Hey, yeah, and the make couple was such a perfect couple of well, I like that, dam my lot. It was cute before. I add it to my list. How many episodes, because I need you see, John is gone for you. You know what? It was just twenty five episodes. But how long is one episode? An Hour? Yeah, but you know me, I finished that in three days. You know, the in Anime, I don't. I don't mind love triangles. I think it's only in K drama that they take it one other level. They scare me. I love triangles. Scare me in K drama or secondly, but in anime I don't really mind. I think it's just the thing I'm used to now. Show Joe always has some love interest that comes in later on, but it's a childhood friend that whose mother died and somehow she needs some emotional support now that I has to help her because for some reason he can't ignore woman that that's in need or great. Uh Huh. That's the that's the plot. I gut eater was the most stressful reading explicit. That's exactly I was. I O, my God, that was alls talking about. Would never again, but mustly, but I would never anime, or not Manga actually, because I read at the Manga. Imagine watching that and the wreck. And you know what you'm I watched the money, I watched and then read it from where I stopped anime. I was in bed with my kindle. Like tears flow down as I have to wash my face now because how my Lias on my mom. I'm crying over to D like relationships like as in black and white as well, just shading the biggling life at touching and PAS is traumatic. If I may say that is actually too much. Actually, I was like what the fuck, and I think it was literally a few months after watching Nana that I side reading now. So imagine a back back like trauma that I was going through. I was finished there. Y'All know. Y'All know. From conception to don't's just pain. He's home. But yeah, and anime is just expected at this point, like only recently have they started making that things out water quay, where there's not really a second lead, a school, and you don't want it to be, because who a fuck all that hurry her and her niel's standing up to hear a Talkat that's the guy, like that's the king, liked, even underappreciated, like actually, as much as she can fast. You need to love on him. Assist before I come over there anyways. But and heremia FORMIA is one side. They're perfect. No one's fucking with them, nor stepping up to them. You can't. You can't satisfy either of them because they're perfect for each other, you know, like in anime. Yeah, I expect second need, but there was one time where I don't know if it's a if the second lead thing applies, but I had secondly relationship syndrome where the second relationship was way better. Yes, in the main, that happens a lot. Yeah, Kimmy need totalk, you need to urge. Yes, what's his name? Really, yes, the baseball play. Oh my God, Heang me because he was amazing and I want to follow their story way more than I want to fall of the mainly like peas.

No, man, listen, they're cute or whatever, but like the the second relationship attacked name and the first pictures him, and in it he is with the bus, with the bus, the bus, bus card he and he was emotionless. He said like five words of whole anime, but is except for the king to chain, exactly, and that's that's how we love it. Then unfriendly NIGGAS. I asked how we like them. Listen, like Lin was amazing. I was like this is it. I need to I need the spinoff with them and them only that. They were perfect for each other. Man Are, but that's the stuster. That's the one. Another funny. Secondly, Syndrome is all right, Mano got three. The one I'm gonna got out when I was hey, hang on, before you carry on, when I said I was watching that, I said it was not faid. I don't know whether there was anyone in here or maybe it was stepped. I was just hat. I was like, he's watching old him and I got to dinner right now. Why would she say that? It might be both dives in it? This might have been debsaul staff amazing at me why I was watching it on my ones. No was checking for it and I was watching it. I wish as is beautiful. I'm gonna Watch it again and I'm gonna like be annoying about it my actual again. And it was amazing, like I loved it. I was shocked. I was like, I'm not going to be put off by the main guy, but he was cute my back, so cute, like and it wasn't that hardy. I mean we need to talk about why they fought put a big lips on. Someone would make them ugly, but just another time, you know. But he was cute my life. He was really cute, really loving and like they were so adorable together, and then the main guy was just there, you know, doing this thing, letting them, letting them. You know, definitely he was such a cute friend that, you see, it's the best, such a cute friend, and that's why I love you know, not every day, Angston. You know all of this, like everyone know. Sometimes it just has to be. It just goes smoothly. Everyone just everyone just stays in their lane, you know, supports each other. That's a true lost story. That's what's I love Jose so much nowadays. And actually I'm just like know, just Jose. I have other issues. I'm sorry, they have grown up issues. I don't want to die. I won't even look at I'm prepared those to like welling, within reason, because, listen, they're dealing with homelessness, they're dealing with poverty, they're dealing with stalkers, they're dealing with bro Traumatic childhood expect I'm not sometimes Joe Sigh like I need to be prepared. I think I suggested one to I fact that was cool. The lady and the Bottler, and it's about a guy. She this girl. She's a workaholic. She hates that her mum is like obsessed with men, so she decides that she vows as she's not going to ever depend on a man. She's going to be independent, you know, missindependent. Love that for her right and her code. Her manager she really liked her. He confessed to her she was a sorry, I don't date guys, so you know, he even asked on your lesbian. She was not, not. I'm just not interested in day in. So you know he's still planning for her, but whatever. One time she comes home and as one man just on the ground, you know, unconscious. No, no, he wasn't question. Sorry, was just one man. I keep she sees a man in our house and she wax in with a pan and she's out, what the fuck, there's an intruder. And she finds out that apparently he thought that someone sold him to her apartment, but was a scam. Someone was obviously living there. So they took his money and he was like, Oh my God, I'm sorry, like I just moved out, I have no more money. Can I please stay with you? And she was obviously like no, the fuck the fuck out of my house, like I'm going to let you stay it just because you're you know. So He's burying her. She's a no, no, and he's really cute to Hunky, you know, like time guy, but that's irrelevant. or He's not going to let strange run into your house. Yeah, completely, as you know. But so she can's him out and then the next day she sees that he collapsed in front of her ball. So she had and because of the wound that she gave him when she hit the Pan. Did she let him? She brings him into the house, she lets him sleep there as she's at the work and she's also messy. So that's why I forgot to mention. She's really, really messy, and so her house is a tip right. So when she comes home, her house is completely clean and whatnot. And then she asked him and he's like, can I please stay here? I'll be a cut I'll be a housekeeper. But he does tell her he's gay, so I guess somehow that's the army. And then she's like, Oh, okay, you're not interested in women, so I guess you're not gonna hurt me. And he's like, Oh, I can I just be a housekeeper. You could pay him, you can pay me in like food or whatever, right, and just and and a bed, and she's all right, Fan, and that's how the story starts and it's really cute. But like they do with a lot of...

...issues that a lot of past trauma, they do with suicide, they deal with there's a lot of fucked up shit. That just traumatized me and I was like, I wasn't accepting this, like it's called lady in the Butler and they're just thinking I was going to be some cute made some more kind of Shit. Right. No, it's your first radio. You need that. No, no, but I really really loved me and think you shouldn't know better. I really should have known, but I like, I'm so disappointed in myself, but I couldn't put it down. I think I had two hundred chapters in like a couple of days. So that's where I think this whole experience of watching the romance genre is just you should have I'm better. Like really, how everybody go into anything? Yeah, that's it. So you just know that's true. But then, like when you get so far and feel like three never surprised. It never never stopped surprising me. Somehow. How could you do this to me, you know, how it's just us, like I'm not I don't know. Yeah, perhaps never, like they never. They never stop surprising me, they never stop affecting me, like how I'm supposed to do. So they do sign right, I guess. Like you guys, ever seen something with a love triangle that was interesting? Like the triangle itself was very interesting, and you love light. That I have to have a proper thing, but I'm sure there's something I've let me open up my anime this. I'm gonna be back. I'm sure. This only felt like a proper game, like a compete, not a competition persday, but more like you really thinking, like who was it gonna be you today, like what's going on, and like you like is one where actually don't know who she was going to end up with. Like, yeah, Long Term Web stune and it goes over years. Right, I'm thinking. I first I was at sue her. Obviously I can't like the web tune and the K drama will be different. Sugan web tune surgeon in the K drama, two different men, like switching in the K drama. Is He do in the Webpe Wa's amazing, but in any in the key's drama, other than I and I can't or the last time what Har Sat in my room in the dock with could be on good this. I see exactly know where you listen, Kay drama. is they really they really said drama in caps and bolder, abold, because they added the drama like the first in the web tune. This this was getting slightly bullied like Oh you're unne you're not going home before you get this be in front of your head, like listen now. Way I was like why is the police of being called here like us so fully? I just thought, what the but like, she's not necessary. It's necessary for being ugly, like what are you? She wasn't like hate me, why do you hate me? Because I was expecting that Shit. I was going to be bubbly. We're gonna be seeing all those shit and make up. Well, yeah, they they really got her down. When she goes to the fast few places, she forgets her wallet in the Web tune and she see the girls that tormented her didn't recognize her and she runs out and that's the end of the ensurge has to go and get her to wallet and be like White Night. Yeah, and the drama. She is the wallet were gone, toll the guys. Guys is the K drama. Whoa any sir, whether she's k dramas like, let me sorry. Truly said. How can we make this more pain for for you young can probably this. See, it was the relationship with her mom in the world to gusting, most disgusting, and I want to punch up her mom was worse in the web. It was worse than about team still for me. And there is a moment where it does get better in the in the K drama, and not in the world for some point of yeah, because it doesn't know, like beauty is what we're talking about. And it's a web tune and I don't know how many chapters it's got now. I think it's probably one, third, hundred one and it's a really good web tune. It kind of falls off and picks up, but it's also pretty strong. But they they've literally just come out with a K drama and it's is you just finished that you need to watch it. I Still Watch. I got halfway through and I'm not I'm not ready for that. You know, permanent ending. Yet, you know the one, the word minutes before I watched the end episode right. I still haven't even realize. It was a fun episode and then it's like fun opison. I had to pause it. Drama. You know that sixteen episode is the last episode. You already you already know six it's not. You know, you're just you're...

...just happy, but like most it's probably the last episode. But guys, you know on the web tune up yet. HMM, one day it gave me three five coins and apparently you can use that to for like one chapter. And I tell you, I've used it on a chapter and it was the most useful chapter that this literally and then it just made the way even worse, because it's not like now. I had to wait two weeks. You know, I yeah, kind of like, yes, I'm just telling you, guys, don't do that. Okay, to back more than one chapter. I'm not doing that. Like, yeah, you ain't getting me. You can buy up to five chapters. What I would do to to read the next could you guys haven't seen, but I need I think I've lit again. You know, I was bubbling a game. Okay, so something of budding. I don't know what it is. It could just flop, but who knows? But yeah, guys, in the web tune, her mom is like the most just horrible. I think it's because you just don't have enough time to write in the little bubbles. Like you know how, like the little nuances and how mother feels about a child, because they say's too focus on how outside life. But in the web to during the drama, you know how we see the little bit where she's like growing up as an ugly kid and they all went to her family one day and they were like, oh, she takes off to her mom and not her dad, and then her mom is to have like sick, like just don't worry about this, just study. And I feel like her mom might be a bit mean to her because she just feels like, you know, they give a bit a context and yeah, like you just should study and that's how you're going to succeed, because people are clearly think that you're ugly and it's like it's life, I'm going to be bad for you, so you gotta kind of have to pick things off. I like, yeah, yourself. So I feel like it's I don't know, because I was only on the first episode, but I feel like that's what's gonna Happen, like that's time goes on with. Come on, let's just yeah, I know, but it but, yeah, simply wants her to succeed, you know, because they belied her. You just she's a hate are like it's just house, like it's biggest. She's really hate or like in in the house, and it doesn't even have dialog. I remember that talking once. Yeah, but you know, something like he's got a whole guys, I thought you listening her family. I didn't even everyone. Guys, did you see the data? Like that's why she was from a single parent family. Maybe they just didn't want to portray that in the in the drama. Yeah, I don't think that that was a focus. On weavy drama. Everyone has a story and the brother and like every single dog, fucking everyone, every story. Everyone has a story in the yeah, I think I went to this issue of like poor writing was developed, but Marma from the outstanding anyone, I guess. Yeah, right, guys, but it's just like I feel like all of you young. Scenes at home. Is the situation in her make up on the way out, somewhere else? Yeah, I don't think the back story been to a home life if anything. In the web, true, we saw home and makeup Prett quickly, but then in the I think the focus of the drama was more so the makeup and like how the struggles behind it. You know how badly affected her and wanna. But then in the web tune is pretty quick, like we didn't even see her back story when she was getting bullied in school. I was like half a chapter and then straight away. We go into the new school where she's really kind and she's say, yeah, I think its focus. Guys, the drama seems kind of funny, like it's it's so ulidarious, hilarious. And you know what, the student and Suho scenes are my favorite. They are my favorite in the whole of the drama, like any scene in they're together and then little rivalry bromance is so cute, like it be everything for me, like it's really cute. I'm glad it has a comedic effect. Cost why is Suh so mean? The Holy Shit and the were to like, I think he's a bit at as me. It was me that first, but he came. He came around a lot quicker than he did in the charm in the drama. Yeah, the drama he stays a bit. He's a slow Bir drama. He really though. He's actually had been for no, I don't think it's not for no reason, because it was just like because everyone in that high school ser ridiculous, like, Oh my God, she said, he said handsome. Him gets annoying after what he's I came here to study. Annoying. He's, he's he was that Saskay wow, you. You know, anays, I don't have your time. I know, I'm...

...yeah, yeah, that's true. He does have personal okay, yes, sure, so you guys think that love triangles interesting, then like it makes I think they have the big yeah, it kept me out of the way. Tune anyway, the key drama. HMM, if you finish it then you know, but like the web tune, it kept me on my toes. I really did it dates with like Oh, that's it really, Oh my God, wait, have you seen in them? Wait, in the drama, does sue who bake? Make, Bake, Oh, Cook, oh no, he doesn't. Well, that's the whole I know this. It doesn't even get to that point. I don't really better make another new season where it gets it. I needs even because I know that makes sense, though, because she probably wrote to hers a Baker. Way, yeah, like after the drama. Don't know if we're gonna get another season, like, I don't think so. The way they've finished it. It doesn't happen. That's true. That is so true. Even the way suck this stick and to last epid. So honestly, like, who do you need to you need to work? It is so different. Yeah, okay, okay, cool. I was saying reads and watch, because they're both there. Both bunch good, like really, really good. Yeah, yeah, guys, anyone listening to this sort in this if you wants to be pleas out for his academia and any plastics responded. Don't worry about it. I can sleep whisper to watch. You can spoke to us on twitch. You'll re times. Ever Seen Cinderella and her four nights? I felt like I spoken about this. Is that the girl that was in parasite? She in it? No, it's something. Yes, I've not watched. Always see my nest coming up. I wanted to watch it. Is it? Go? My God, Guy, guys, go. He's won a love high and goal. How about the whole cost that's at? And it's not even like weird, like it's so, so good. Basically, it's like this girl who moves into this house. I can't even remember it ends up in the house, but she does, and they're all like rich boys in this house and each one lights up in a different way and she builds relationships with everybody and then, in the end, like pics, the one I don't want that she picked is the literally the one that I didn't want. He's so annoying, so so annoying, and he's just not even that cute either. But I guess you kind of they kind of build on the relationship and your kind of Ok here, see why you picked him, but you could have built on somebody else, you really could. But guys, you should watch this one. It is also come out of ten. I'm looking. I watched it in a one day, like I'm still charging through craffy prints. So I hope I get oh my God, you guys can't call it convince between for your part. Oh my God, squeaking off seconly syndrome. Cara, please tell me, like I did, meant the second. Yet maybe I'm just not. I'm an episode four and I'm just like I'm only because you do made it this spot, because here they Shaquira, like guys were talking about the piece. We have the same K drama taste. When I tell you this is elite, like it shot to my favorite dramas of all time in the space of about five six episodes. Okay, really just can't get behind that. I think it's an old drum for me. Yeah, I'm sober. That's what I'm saying, though, because we too says I'm shallow as well. But this one, this one, do the main guy, the guy from Goblin who on you. I do love him. That's why I'm here, to be on this only reason. He'll be carrying a show on this back. I can't lie, as only I watch it. You do need to watch iowan eater one. I was on class just about to bring that up. I see so many negative things about this Strauma, guys, like, really, I could. It has first guys, Secretary Kim and well, yeah, I know, in a buzz cut man. Speaking off that guy, what is your favorite dram to watching? Men, Secretary Kim, I love kicking. To be honest, guys, have not seen fight. It's true, it's true, but it also rat. Maybe it is a wrap, is he? That's the best pay drama in general. Anyway, it's true. Yeah, just hot. I'm sorry, guys, I got sidetrack your El as. Oh God, it's drama.

We watch that. Yeah, it was. It's a one class saying, then it is. That's not like romance rything. That's just like. It was a watch. It's worth watch. It's more like story about Oh, it's basically a story about revenge. Yeah, you know, just grind, just grinding to carry out what you want to achieve. Basically, okay, and there's a little there's a little love triangle in there as well, a little bit. Yeah, a little bit either them bitches. But yeah, I really don't like any of them. They're both her who, horrible women. They they actually need to get arrested, if anything like the West psychos that they actually scaredy. Like, wait, guys, I know a girl from Kimbook Jew is in you too, one class. She's got like silver hair and I or something, and it's Kase way lost. Wait, wait, waits to Babes. Yeah, not the main yeah, and she has fine like they give her an actual story as well. She's my favorite. She's so cool. She's my favorite character in now, okay, good, good night. They give her a story as well and stuff, and it's really she's the my favorite character, like him, Huh, and the friend, the the other CO worker, I and the Black Guy. They're my favorites. That's the yeah, that's it. That's it. That goes. What is it like seeing a black person in K drama? I first I was like, Gosh, becomes the racism and they came anywhere and I was learning. Still like came, it really came and then and then I was like by still like him. He's cute. I think it's his character wasn't that bad. That's why I wasn't you know, he wasn't like some basketball player, you know, feel into a little stereotype. I just love it. Like if he was just a character that happened to be black, then I think I would have liked it. But because they made a whole thing of like, oh my God, dressing the Bat, he was black. Let's be honest, they're not that. That's but yeah, Guy, and he's only black guy. And then it's a new and it's a there's a I think the main the thing that put me off a bit was the nightclub scene, but I think that was very typical. Like there wasn't going to let him in an that club where they're playing hip hop? Of course not. Why would they? You know, it happens in real life. Exactly. Yeah, it would have been unrealistic. I'm not. Come on, who you fooling? Of course people are going to look at him and say Shit. It was a very cute story that his backstery really hot. warming. Wasn't he mixed? Isn't he half Korean? HMM, yeah, and look, the girl caught off forgot my name. I've got their name and she was like, you can't be Korean because you're black. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I like to story. It wasn't that obviously. Yeah, but it wasn't that bad like I thought. I wasn't hate him for being there because I'll just start my world. They're going to embarrass I guess it would have. It would have opened like eyes up to the green stool for yeah, the conversations do you need to start, especially and Japan, because the way like even like darker Skinns, Koreans and Japanese people get treated or like you know, mixed race and Japanese people get peered, they get teated like the outside, even though they're born, they will still have, yeah, they'll still have your Korean and Japanese in them. Was a lot of this ethno, nationalist sentiments still, like, even if it's even half Korean or and the half Japanese, half Indonesian people, half Japanese half, and he started's Asian. And Yeah, your Kore see a lot of hatred. So they're very purest, like they're very like, no, if you're not for Japanese. And Yeah, like I remember Mr smiss world, the represented Japan. She was hard Pakistania, half Japanese. Yeah, Fun name and the attack and it was fucking on Koyoshikawa and like the victrio she received on that, even though she won. Yeah, it was just what it is about, like race in Asia, where like I actually have no interest in seeing those conversations play out, like I would rather there's no black man in in quick KDN'M I watch my black lamp in our black spaces, like you know. I mean I watch slow fall. I'll watch my shit like asolutely about money cree. I just don't want to see the conversation sex things in anime as well. Sometimes I'm just like it depends on the anime. It's not everyone, and yes, not for everyone is trust them to have the conversation of constructive Y, because all I can rein about is I feel like, okay, you're being debated on, like yeah, yeah, it's Black Person Alife, so what you yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, well, I cannot then, I guess for the sake of the people that do have to live in Asia, those conversations do need to be had. So I depends he's doing it, because I don't know if you guys saw recently that African American. He's like a comedian who works in career, and there was a k pop star, things, Papa band or soloist, who...

...was, quote doing know, it's a pup of students who are caught doing black face. They'reling personally in like a bunch, like a bossible seine or whatever. Yeah, I had that. They were absosed for doing that in the in the roof variety shows and their backs. Hell. Yeah, so he called out. He's like, he did it. He did it a lot more gracefully than I would have expected. He was basically saying like, here's this, what you're doing actual called black face, and here's the historical context. This is why it's offensive to people of African descent, you know. I know they didn't care about that being apologize and stuff. Yeah, well, what happened was he's called them off that same black he said black doing black face is racist because of all this historical context, and then he got slammed for calling Korean's racist, when that's on where he said and they made him apologize or the words. He's gonna lose his job. Apologize. He's working these and get shit back everything. So he had to like, let's apologize, saying I'm sorry for C Koreans are racist. Even that. That's not what he said. They just didn't want to listen to the lesson. Yeah, some some time, that people are saying, like how they say Koreans Racist, you black monkey, like so sometimes you just got a great years away from that conversation. I think we are chip at it bit by bit, by having by honestly just change your friends. That's it, like that's probably the other best that the doing it in a public in a public way, is probably not going to get you the the response that you want. Like maybe convinced your friend or two and keep them around, even for even for us of the UK, you don't gonna make any way. It's true line talking about don't do this. They do that. Listen, your mom and your dad's not says braces. I just don't like him. Yeah, that's how they are. Like, like even cringe when I see those conversations being had, like that's sick talk. Yeah, of this girl who was like this a time, but I was watching, I don't know, a trailers, like a k drama, and then like Youtubeers, like I bet what Korean stuff? Yeah, all right, I've got you. So then it's recommending me all these Korean platforms, like, you know, like their own kind of bus feed and their own kind of come me, the world one. Yeah, just that kind of stuff, just like you know that only the production companies. And it's and it was literally like Koreans reacta black people. Yes, yes, I wish one. My Korean guy meets a beautiful black woman and I was like you should keeps recommended that to me. Why? Why? I don't want to see by its quod. Oh, you ugly black bitch, all you're saying. I'M gonna so beautiful, amazing. I don't care what any of them but sive me, I perceive me. I really look at me like I just came here to watch a couple dramas, like my drugs are leave. I get it's behind the scenes of tributy. That's why. Okay, beuty, and I was like yes, let's get it. And on they come and recommend me some pepperries this cruise. Do that? Those are easy through through. I say Hell No, I might be all up in the business, but today period that is, is they have my business. please. I'm that note. Thank you all so much for coming to this discussion and just thanks again to Effat and Shakia and happy and hitter and a star it. But just before, just to summarize, I discussion on second needs and love triangles. Before we go, I want everyone to just named. The series can be a drama, Korean, Chinese otherwise, or anime that caused you the worst case of second beat syndrome. Just maybe each other. Think about it. If you're ready to go, then you can go. Okay, does our pick some one the worst case, and we okay, do you know what? I would say? Choose on trap, because that was actually first in my first K drama and also my first second lead syndrome. So I got it all out once, but I would say now I've gotten really fully into it, the Worst Secondary Syndrome is I love so beautiful and there's going to be a Korean version. If you guys don't want to watch a Chinese one, you can watch the Korean one. Is going to come out soon, and it's basically like it's a school dramas. So they all still in high school. I think they go to uni at some point. Yeah, they do. But it's this girl who's obsessed with her neighbor and he's the main he doesn't like her all and she's in love with him or whatever. But she has a classmate who really likes that and they love, they eat, they play, they are so good together. They have an amazing time. But no, sorry, she's she wants to be with the nighbor that doesn't pay her...

...any attention. In the end, like the other relationship works out and it's kind of like, okay, but I'm sorry, I'm still hot breaking women for my second leave this episode. That was even a scene where she was embarrassed in front of the whole school. This guy really look after him. The other one was just gonna know where he was. I was just like this secure the fucking best. It's a damn shame, but yeah, I think it's a lot. So beautiful and watch out for the Kate drama. That one's coming. Or me, I was gonna say true beauty, but like the k drama, not the tune, but not so much. I think there was too and it's K dramas because I only get a Mani K dramas don't really give any man. She was free, I mentioned earlier, but when I remember is, I think it's with who are you? School of two thousand and fifteen. I would you know, I actually love of the main the main guy that she ended up with anyway, but they she suited the other one way more, in my opinion. I was really sad that should end up with him like a papa, for they went that pop confessed to each other at the end as well. I told her how she told her how he fell, and I fool that he would end up with her. It was a whole twin thing as well. She's a twin. I always gonna end up with one of them. They end up with any of them. So yeah, that was that one. She was pretty. And who are you called two thousand and fifteen? Them too, if I think the worst one was cheese in the trap, because usually I come round to the main guy. Like you know, you eventually warm up to them. I couldn'ly cheese and CHAP. This is just no good for me, like I couldn't Nah, just know that. Yeah, definitely choosing the trap. I hated the main guy, like hated him, but I would definitely say true bet as well, because like, like, like we said, the web tune, the first male leads. We so into him and then for the K drama, I want the other guy now. So it's I don't know, I've never watched something where like my opinion is just completely done. Know what I want to so now. But, surgeon, I'm sorry about we. He does have everything in the case. I don't even, you know, I don't even find and the actor who plays him as attractive as the actor who plays the mail so true that I now want her to be with him like for all. In terms of purposes. I'm just like, well, they really did a number of weeks. He's everything, he's everything, everything and more. I'm gonna Bench that. Guys. You'll probably catch me in the group rat five. I am. I'm ready to Rewatch it. Haven't even finished it. Like. That's how amazing Sejour is. Ah, wow, I cried at the final scene. I think for me it's a bit more complicated. She's in the track again, because just the way the male lead, who was like the lead and like I, was coming towards the end and the air staws a woman up to him and the second leader still being amazing, and then just the way it ended, I was like wow, okay, I'm very dissatisfied with this, and that was it. Had No like resolution, which she beauty with the web tune. I think it's pre early on, despite all the dips and turns to a I need to read the last three chapters like present. But even despite everything, it seems like we know who she's going to end up with. With the drama, same thing, but I'm really warming like I'm not even like rooting for like her Namil lead at all at the point where I'm at right now. But then I think if I have to pick one with the worst cases. Secondly, St Jime, just off the strength of how much is like tested my friendships, it's gonna have to be Nana, so that it's my recommendation into it is really not. I've really done this on this. I really don't. It's not. It's even I need to understand says. I didn't seem to me. I just wanted her not not to just be happy together. No men, but yeah, obviously we can't have that together. Guy Doesn't illustrated right happy together off. I found it on the final because that's what's t o t that is the like SIS squared. Let's go. That is that is it. That is days it. But obviously men had to get involved and either of them ended up with the right one. So he okay. So said guys, just before we sign up for good, just when to let everyone know where they can find you online. So...

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