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Episode 17 · 1 year ago

Spooky Movies || Episode 17

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

As it's still the month of October, today's episode is a special Halloween themed one! The 4 Eyes pod talk about horror as a genre and the ways in which it is depicted in film and anime.

Tune in and don't forget to let us know your thoughts using the hashtag #4EyesAcademia 

On this episode: @chrinkster @toomannyman @oluwaponz_ @estrella8_

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