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Episode 7 · 1 year ago

4 Eyes Talks - The Big 3 || Episode 7

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Naruto, One Piece and Bleach, the one and only Big 3! The cast share their rankings, discuss how these series have influenced anime and answer the most important question; will there ever be a new Big 3? Tune in and find out!

On this episode: @estrella8_ @abi_mulan @theprimetales 

To do my little classic intro. He Hi guys, and you're listening to the four eyes. I could email podcast. Today we've got abbey prime and me a stell. So say hey to the people, guys. Yeah, okay, I was hoping some more, but okay, yeah, only showing. How about that? I like it. I'll be going to talk that. Am Not going to try like an Intro, like a troice Gamer. You now listen. Yeah, you're not listen to the true Gamer. Allah, okay, it's time. Next episode. I'll be will have like the superintroyer. Cool, yeah, represent is. I can now listen to the sounds of ABB for me and then I'll just play your fart. So today's topic is all about the big three, the one and only big three that is acknowledged in anime. We're not knowledge in any other big three. So today's topic we're going to have a really, really good discussion about that. So thanks again for tuning in. But first we're going to get started on lookout. The Day is news topics and gaming world. So fast up Nintendo. So I believe it was this week that there was news announced that there has been a leak in all this distance. Some in a range of source codes, development documents and and just that ground information all the systems for the Nintendo sixty four Gamecube, and we see a lot of people kind of been kind of delving into all that stuff and kind of a real a lot of things. So what your thoughts about that? And have you guys had a chance to kind of find out what was in the files dark? So obviously I think I had a look, I had a little bit of bit, you know, a gander, and i John's I think it's a really interesting leak, like to the sense that a lot of the stuff that was leaked in ten thousand and sixty four related and pretty much like a lot of old school games. But there are some stuff out of it that the intended Das kind of we etc. Etc. And I think most people are checked with the mainstream games are getting. They really cared about the likes, about the donekcongs, the Marios as elders and the pokemon franchise. So those are the mains that I look out for and I'm leaving. Sure if there's anything else and we quite frank I don't care, but I think it was interesting, like it was interested in seeing some of the like the Alpha sketches and carriages that didn't make into the final bills. Like Luis. You was meant to being married in the Marine in two thousand and sixty four one Mario. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know exact name of the four one, you know, I don't care anything like that, but it was meant to be on there and these stripes looks the same as Mario. So it's interesting that they built the sprite from the gods that far but didn't give me a game. So kind out what capacity was he meant to be in the game or what point they kind of cut him out, which is interesting. I think some other characters, arens was elder, were interesting. I think seeing Yoshi as a dinosaur more than I didn't know what to call it now, like a like a Gecko, I don't call is it usual? A dinosaur actually was good. What is it? Yeah, but I think I think the older maybe it's a bit more aggressive, like he's like he was deaf for six four. You know how you just had six foot? Yes, sir, I just remembered. You know the mushrooms. I don't know what they're called. The mushrooms in Mario was this six foot. Apparently just sorry them. So, how tall is Mario? That's the first question. I'm pretty sure that they were six foot. So funny magic chased by a six foot mushroom. Oh my God, I kinda like mushrooms. Second Biggest Funds, oh, lass as mental. So yeah, I think the most interesting one for that list for me was the pokemon leagues in it and seeing how some of the characters and the final sprites got to where they are. So ill says. The got a pokemon intend to have that wis ominous look, and the fun one does kind of look, you know, pretty cool, but the like the Alpha sketch was just like I'll call a smudge of eyes. It was is so bad. It's one of the funniest kind of like Alpha skeets. I've seen everything that was, I'm leaked, but I think over rule that. I mean it does raise questions an obviously Ip. And Yeah, I saw it was really interesting post on Reddit and someone had kind of broken down some of like the potential like risks, like security risks, and issues going forward because of the leak. One of the things that has been stated in that post was saying that how, in theory the day it could be used to potentially clone the hardware and then, you know, someone out they could then maybe operate it and create it like the original systems would. So it's a bit of a sticky one and it just makes you think...

...as well, I don't know who in attender of upset. Yeah, that some of something, something's happened. I've upset somebody for them to go and leak this like this. It is like the last of US two week one of the employees. Oh yeah, or game before it was released. I think that force them to actually would we say for I mean, look, it's the streets working it. You make people angry, they're go on reaction it. But in terms of like Ip and like how like what that guy said on read it that you mentioned to me is, I mean, okay, I get it, but if we're looking at WHO's going to be, he's going to really rerender and intendo sixty four version of Mary and say right, okay, this is what I need right now. This is this. I mean the leaks from Games, from we, I think, as we actually was probably the latest one backwards. So we're looking at leaps and bound since then, like no one really pays were. You probably one worst Nintendo, if we're being honest. And beyond that, like the changes from the way you to the switch in itself, even if free, yes, is been mad. So how am how am I going to feel agreed that someth's going to come and bring back a sixty four bit rader away aside, a sixty four bit down. I'm going to play that in hasty go away, go away, I don't need it. I'm sure there's someone out that you just wants to get into that instaalgia bag and they'll go at that. Just will be this. This will be it for them. Yeah, I mean you've got wrongs that do this anyway. That roles and emulators that I look look on life. Not that I'm condoning this guy's look on life, but you type in any games, type in emulator, or lie by life, to lie you're living life and of course no, Oh my God, I'm sorry, but I liked you're living life and to us. Okay. Next up, the playstation has also dropped some news that they're going to be launching an indie documentary seventh of September. So it's going to be featuring wellknown developers like Hideo Kajima, Max Sonny for me to weather, and they delivered, like so many different playstation games like over the past couple of years. And the aim of documentary is supposed to show how Sony's managed to start revolution in the history of video game us that you guys are going to be marking your calendars, you know, getting popcorn. Yeah, let me know what day it comes out so I can then not care, just like another day. They lands, all right, from September. Yeah, block not to do it. Oh my God, I thought you guys would be here for it. I want to know, like, what you'd want to get from documentary. Would you want to learn about like maybe till she gets some more ideas and get into the minds of these developers and like to understand what their thought press are? But you guys just not here for it. So, okay, like I mean, Kudos to them, like they did bit, but I don't care. I'm already giving you money. Why I'm not giving you my time as well? What more do you want from appreciate what you're doing? But guys, where's hatred coming from? Do you have not okay, in a hatred for a playstation like expected. Okay, I'm hate. That's just get nothings never gone anything to me that. I thought I was a bit wouldn't watch your watch it. But what's that facks like for me, similar to Abbey, is that dark? You got enough of my money. You've got off of my time. I'm seeing I'm sunk hours. Once on our alone is four hundred hours. I've plopped on that game dog and went to me, yeah, let's watch it Indie me. I do not care enough. You're just gonna tell me into belinking. There was the playstation one. I didn't want to see that. And this is innovation, dark innovation. That's a narrating it. And they haven't all black hosts. I'm not. I'm cast exactly. I get what they're trying to do and I've seen, you know, kind of yes, I'm decumentary. I've ever heard that. So anyway, yeah, I'm surprised about that poem, something that they should have gone earlier, but I guess jumping in the lave. Well, some bounds in it. And I see everyone has that TV's money now. So Hmm, what do you have it people cost is spoken and you know, if you do go ahead and watch it. You know, do feel free to out for as I could EO tour enough to know what you think, but we don't care. Oh yeah, would be like to be that, but please do know, please watch it and let us know just like that. Won't be me and I'd be responding just what one of the rest of us of like, Yo, this is great. Now I Gain't great. You better keep it. We imagine it. Imagine is something actually amazing...

...that they put in there. I would just missed it. Yeah, that's gone. You to want to highlights. Man, that's true. See what I mean? This is no reason to watch this. B I'm not interested. It's Nintendo switch, was doing one, or Nintendo in general. I would watch. I don't know, Jo Line, want to Nintendo? Are you want of them? I'm not, but like, I want Tom to be a bit more interesting. I don't know why, just that. Let's let's let's look like. Let's make it clear. I'm a playstation fan. I'm a Sony Fan before many other consoles, but I just have the time to watching point its documentaries. If you do desire to watch this on the seventh of September, please do not let it Guston justcourage you anyway and still ask us until our we want to know what you want to know if we're proven right or wrong. Yeah, that will be really interesting. So next news updates. What about Halo? So Microsoft announced this week that the halo intimate game multiplayer mode will be free to play. I've never played a halo game ever. What Games? What Games are you playing? Yeah, cheers game. Wait, so's Halo? That's a big game up or something. Is it like something that people should play? I mean, most people account that's it. It's good. That's the only shooting game I I actually acknowledge. Other than that, I don't be any case. I mean I'm saying the last of US, like my no for game portfolio dark. I know about games. What Games? For these four games are the only games I'm ever going to play. Talk to me about other things. I don't know. Is it a crush ran to game? What started a great one now and so halo is. It's a it's a very, very good game. Over the years it's been has a history of being good games then making good game. But Blah, I just don't think people care enough anymore. Obviously that the super xbox stands care about Halo, but I think beyond that, especially to join is yeah, what they've said is what players free, and it's like, are you doing the need play or are you yourself a favor? Because right now we don't care if I've bought the game. I've bought the game. I ready spent my forty pounds on again, jo mean on Halo, telling me, yea, let's give you much there for free. I get in the line. There's wo making more money, there's Apex Legion, which is making more money, there's bloody fortnight, which is making the money. Take you're what you pay. Packet and dark do out of it. Then it should welcome to being a normal person. Driving congratulate a bird for flying. Damn, it could fly. Don't. Well then, yeah, I don't think I could ever play halo again. Yeah, I don't think you could play it because I feel like there's too much going on and I don't think you I'll play it now. I think I play it. I'm so sorry. Your next box, nextbox, yeah, I'll you add to that. For game portfolio, I think I'm gonna start playing blog pool. It's a problem, yea or or Secura. I want to pick one of them. I don't know why I'm doing this. Last off because I got it, but it's just the thrill of trying to fight really hard bosses as internal battle gone on me right now and I don't know how to feel about this. The father, you have to complete dark souls. You've just done the first boss. Let's just say it's I don't I be kudast you and I couldn't do I can be I couldn't do it. Yeah, much better person than I am because Dia, I hate dark souls and to think myself through the rest of that stuff. You make a keep it until the next point. So we've got some updates for you guys, some regards to you, maybe at adaptations. So that was very much the theme of last week's episode, and so we were going into and discussing our thoughts on anime gaming adaptations. So since then it's been used that the beyond good and evil and splinter cell games are going to be getting their own film adaptations. So that beyond good and evil one is going to be directed by the same guy that produced detective Fikaju and it's going to be producing collaboration of Netflix and with the splinter cell one. It's actually going to be directed by the same guy that produced to John a wick franchise. So and it's going to have. Yeah, it's going to have two seasons, sixteen episodes. Are you guys been watching to watch how diversity, the tick taking the box, the inclusion? Yes, and yeah. I've never pay the game, so I don't...

...want I've never any of them. whichever. The first one, all this, the whole was Beren okay, so good and evil. Yeah, it's such a funny game in terms of like the first one came out in two thousand and three, I believe. So looking at what seventeen years ago, wow, they're like, yeah, we're going respoint good, beyond good and evil to I think that was even discussed maybe two years ago now. Maybe maybe n't been any store. So what's this? What's the show then about? This is it's a really hard games like to explain. I've never really played and enjoyed it. I was on the guppears too, but I know it was basically like a really like critically acclaimed, like amazing story. But I think the movie, like the movie adaptation will be, will be beautiful visually. I don't know enough about the game itself to want to Joe's, I think doing good people's are cult game in terms of if you know the about the game, you know about the game. If you don't, then the game could just start fuck off. But splints off seems interesting because sounds good. I'm looking forward to, I don't know how it does, an anime adaption, but I'm looking forward to coming ways that a man adoption or live live action. So they're going to produce it and because a live action what spin? So yeah, both of them. Okay, they both La all the both of you. We too much live adaptation. John is splinters. I was humans. So it's easier to kind of, Ye, keep it realistic. Younger people has like trolls and some space and it's like like the game is like a puzzle solving stuff based game. So M like lead characters of Chinese woman and he's actually friends like a pig. Yeah, that she takes pictures like shoot to me she's like a detective report of from what I've gathered, from what I remember playing the game. Hated the game because I just too young and stupid. But yeah, it's a it's a decent game. The form adaptation with just just seems a bit Nutstin me, and the fact has been done by the guy who does detective Pikaju and older than before you US start. I'm not watched. If I'm nearing it's trash. So hold on, hold on, like before. You're stop up here right, let me, let me, let me finish. Let me finish. Yeah, is the movie. Stroyline was a bit we had on and runs. Yeah, he was, oh he was tuna. Yeah, see, and the reason why I enjoyed that film so much is because seeing I pokemon on in like realistic forms. That there's nothing for me to look forward to in terms of this young, good and evil film, other than it might just be a bit pretty. So we've covered all the lakes news topics now and it's time to get into the main topic of today's episode is all about the Big Three. So everyone should about the big free if if you're an old school I'm a fan from day to know. The big free are today consists of one piece, Naruto and bleach. All three animals came out around the same time, so one piece and Naruto will first release and written by their orders in one thousand nine hundred and ninety seven and Leach was released in two thousand and one. So yeah, a long time. Yeah, one nine, ninety seven and going through the two thousands, early two thousand Sif two thousand and ten. They just were just the main dominant Mangas, animes that will produce around that time and which is why they probably most known today as the big threes, as they were on top and like the highest selling Mangas and an amazing and their times. So I want to know from you guys, in which order would you class the big three? Because for me personally, one piece of number one in second days would be in the Ruto and thirdly, I put leach down. There are so let's let's get your thoughts that. Let the people know. Draw I might have to agree once. Yeah, I think it will be one piece and then there's like a big stretch between one piece and then narrata and then not that bit of a stretch between our town, Beach Jo. That's is out. Even sometimes, depending on my mood, switched naratwn beach. But how was your Moan? How you? How's your mood switch you like that, because she's listen. No, I'm so sorry. Yeah, bleach ties Woll forever have a special place in my heart. That was my first papper anime, and when I watched the apple was the best thing I've ever watched. And then is that this before people start cropped, to my mind, about all the Manga was trash. It fell off. The animal obviously fell off towards the end as well. But as I was watching it, nothing was better than bleach to me. And then when I start watching Narrati, listen, listen, listen, I will forever back beach. But then when I start watching our towels...

...at okay, so obviously this is amazing, but you know, certain things can be done better, storytelling and being consistent and whatnot. But then still Narato just didn't hit for me as much as bleached did. And the only way I think I can say that for me is when I was watching bleach, I didn't think a break once I watched it from the beginning to whatever point I caught up to, I think it was just before the zumpoped he up. And when I start watching one piece as well, I never took a break. I watched the whole thing. I used the whole thing until, I think, just before marine falls, when I caught up, but with Marito I took so many breaks in between. Narrato, like the first part was not bad, but I remember there were just certainly arks. I'll just stop and I'll just come back to a later date. It just wasn't as I wasn't enjoying it as consistently as I enjoyed Narta, I mean bleach and one piece. So that's why sometimes I've not to I think ovals are good, better anime then bleach. But personally, if I'M gonna rank it for myself, sometimes bleach will be better than nons of me. Yeah, okay, drop. I'm gonna to like, unfortunately, to agree. I've been mostly after do most of that, largely unlike opening she said there. For me I feel like objectively, I kind of objectively put one piece at top and Ruto second and breach third due to kind of like their general lifespan and well, on pieces that currently but subjectively bleaches at the top. Okay, but like, subjectively as much I hate ending and to me bleach doesn't, doesn't go on pasta past the eyes of mark like once, I was against this. That's it for me. That that I don't want to see this man uses powers, become a power ranger, do it, morph in time, do for and then suddenly become a super broken character. Already all those I said there was enough. That was enough bullshit for me. In it one piece is only number two because it has such a good, long lasting a story that is stable. I don't really care for the Bame cast that has going on. And Wow, Naruta, as I said Jest Ay, it is a story of Star Cross lovers chasing each other across multiple continents. Hold on, are you against representation? Like, what's going on? How can you say what? I'm representation. I believe it. I believe in meaning for inclusivity. Not Meaningful? I don't know. I look, if you're going to put me in there, well, represent me. Well, you see my well, we have a smarly villain. That only ha, ha ha, that's all, and he's goat. Yeah, teeth missing, that's that's that's you. And so obviously representation people. You wanted to listen, we got representation. Are you toss are you took less? I know, but I mean there are two FIS. People are I don't know, I don't know. My work list. That's health care is expensive, like we will have access to it. That's just the truth. So yeah, I think we're represented as well. I think. I think, listen, don't even get me fired, like we're gon. We're gonna go on. I mean like one piece great story summon will fights. I think in terms of memory fights, bleach blows every single knights of Anim out of the war, in my opinion. HMM. I think in terms of individual memorable characters, including character designs, I think bleach blows a lot of characters, is a lot of animes out the war. And I want to fit the music bleep mine. That's always to time. I'm not gonna ut all time. Bleak the all time. I'M gonna I'm gonna argue me that. Oh, you know, I'm never going to disagree. Like maybe not of all time, but definitely off there. Okay, think of another one. I too SHAMPLU and cowboys be but yeah, that's because that's not your new job. Is New job is okay, we know who they are, but dog. In terms of important place one of music, Leach has so many bangers. M prob like whenever it's you going or human. Have that, dude. That's will piano key will sell in the background. Everyone else. Why? A music? Whenever the man went in a ranker's place, and as far does dog, everyone knows that. When you will all right, when you put it that way and you're able to interview the music particular sees Kiskis speak scenes, I get it. But of all time I have I don't have to ask you to take it back in one that comes close apart from...

Sammish and Plu and cowboy bebop will be. will be probably close, but all you will remember is open. So did it? Did it? Did it? Did it is? Yeah, that's it. Beyond that, what do you remember? We'll put them in spoire. Oh, backs, fat back. No, but some of them is legendary. I'm not. I'm not detracting from Sam Marshin creos music like letting lessen, even after some wight has good music. I'm not detracting from that. But in terms of music that Tom of overall soundtrack, original soundtrack. Dah, we're talking about the way I've a life, as much as I hate very tell the sound and I cut it, cut it, kind of, kind of. I'm even thinking of what yea, and I was hoping you are going to mention it. But Very Tale. The attracks not bad, you know, opening and Endians more, baby girl, these are this cost. I agree to what I still says. That is alone and alone the songs, and they're just opening songs in fairy tale, the only one. I will say it. I have hate. I hate them saying it because I never like to give propsy. This anime is contract cuner. That's it. And then it's yeah, soundtrack, but it's not. It's amazing, but I wouldn't put it as I would have put a bomb peach for me. Yeah, wouldn't know of each is really good there. So it was what in the barrel? I don't know. Black songs music, then, fair at all. And I watch that. I just literally listen to the music. That's I don't watch it. I literally go on Youtube that black openings, back of the ending and I listened to it by Watch anime. Damn, this hit is all at all. We all agree that we all have the same rankings generally of the yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll agree. Okay, we agreed on something cool one a few, but I don't know. Want to know from you guys as well. Like, obviously the Big Three's legendary is very much typical typical animes, obviously on piece of still running of its time. So are they any kind of factors that you guys can think of us to what made it so popular and why they're the only big three that we acknowledge? Kind of show and drop these days. are trying to push this new big three and I'm just not trying to hear it of the original big three works on aspects of those animals individually. Do you think our is what makes them so well like the so memorable? I'm a keep. I think at the time that I they was starting to circulate, those were only three that were like yeah, that's it, that's literally like that, and maybe definitely will be the fourth, if you're going to cry out kind a big free definitely will sit just outside the four, because definitely was also pushed as much as them big three. HMM, like and Gess. We had access to and that's literally the reason why it was so. It's not like there were the only ones are out that wis it's the only one. Probably would have probably been top three on a problem her the former alchemist anime would have probably been one of the big four, even if it was pushed as much, if you will, sir, playing as much as the big three was. But it wasn't. I think it's just because that's what it was on. What's IT for? Four kids and it was actually on TV. So for pocket jetics it was wonder yeah. Also one thing that has not favored Ruta and ship put in. Let me let me not forget that. Actually, if people don't separate the two, because Naruto in itself that basically body of work. Were addition, I'm separating. I'm sorry, I never included then. To me, not to Shuld isn't even big, free knowledge of something else. No, to part one is probably freely. That's them. Is a not a flock or just not really? Yeah, I don't see class NARUTO. NATO shouldn't as just one thing, and it sho and including Shildon in the big three. I would separate it till the yeah, I agree with yes all that. It's hard to separate and that's why Naruto would never taken top spot. I think Naruto top. I'd like stand based in a Ruto. If we're keeping it roll, it's probably better or can rival hundreds hunter remake in terms of just based on mm Poe is amazing. Yeah, like if we're keeping a hundred percent real, I think once you now start saying should puns invol she put under a bit. So driving fifty, like the final end in the fund right in the ROUTO ended decently. Even the...

...final bout were scek in a real good, conclusive fight. That is ending. He said, all right, cool, if that ended hair, I'd be upset, but I know it seems like as if that but, like Fu Park, I would have included shop to them. Yeah, made sense up until then. Beyond that it just became right, let's send people. Don't is yet it became fairy tale, but with new Jutsy, yeah, it is. How much do I love you? Is Going to represent? How much? How far are you going to live? Dog? They killed Kakashi and and in the Manga and they brought them back the next week. Because I was something happens watching before the Njia and yeah, I'm moving drinking. I can myself for you, because like when they say we're going to do, you know, World War, global whatever they want to do, is just. I fair enough, but you're going to meet anyone can come back alive. It's all right, all right, fellas. Right, let's bring the diary back. Let's just show them where. All Right, okay, let's what Jo all this was. It was a ploy. This is what would be to her. It was toby, surprised. We all knew it was totally you. It was him, but I'm sure what I didn't know that. Yes, you did, Ye did. Yeah, I mean, HMM, so like like in the really that wasn't like twists and turns out like Dan, like like if I go back to base and Rudo, the Kimy Morrow fight, rocally drunken fight, I can name fights from the top of my head that were, wow, this is quality, this is great, like like rocky versus Gara might have been the best roots like as Lo, asally keeps seeing on twitter, but is amazing, like it might be one of the best and rout of fights, like lip dare I say of all time? HMM, really, and there's not actually that many shoulders in fight star. That good. Actually, what memorable ones? Pain versus? Yeah, that's it. Yeah, even the what's her face? What's this woman's name? That for Kaguya, the cougier fight was. Okay, the final boss, Bot or your final boss, bout you jus. She gets done by. She gets done in by a bunch of smoky naked men, no packet in it. Should joke company outside. She died from a nosebleed, dog bit. Wrap it up like end it before that. I don't care enough now. That's actually barrassing. I'm still happening and watered it that as soon as I found out and need you got dumb, and by a stick I was at that. I'm not. They of BG. They boy needgie like Niki. Everyone Love Negi and said y US dead in. Why? Why? Because just just for that, just for that mom, I don't know. It was for him, not as character development. That was I don't developed. I don't thank you. It took her to carry baby. That's what it taught her. Because she's useless. Oh No, let's let's not. Because he actually can't write women like he's still trash. He is does not a good female character in Narta. That's that. Snada is the best, by Clipper's ferminimum best, like just that's it. I said, Dan. They said, let's give us that's dor quality. Let's make her strong. All right, fellow, all right, first, see that's extend of that's that's all we needed. As a woman, we need today, feminism for today. Like as a feminist, I am satisfied that she is strong. That is all I needed. I don't care about sacral breaking, breaking stereotypes. Bro Strong. Yeah, and wasn't was a major character. Came shippard and I see her many once seven, seventy two episodes. Tends that truly art. Yeah, basically on the scrolls. Yeah, yeah, one scores Duck, baby girl. Why did you do this to her? Listen, player. Yeah, yeah, he can't. I think our all, the big three, knows her. Has the worst female heart. Asked like yeah, yeah, yeah, but don't forget. or He made it just one crime every open. I was tired, guys. Yeah, one character, one tired. That's one character. A Com just hard because all the other female characters Runi are what's that, rookie? Are you reach? Yeah, you've got. What's the other one? Mate, basically all the the Helot for us. I can't name is, but there's any name. But they're sick, like the female actors in no, I think. If anything, bleach my actually have one of the strongest female character characters in the big three. One piece, I mean one piece like has characters of personality. That's all good. With the man. I feel like yea, this will build a big I don't feel like they're like they're on the...

...same fighting plane as yeah, you'll see. Your Roochi gets called in and she's slumping. Guys, Soy Hunt, so you fun gets called and she's slumping, does Rangiku. Yeah, that's true. Frank. None of the female characters in one piece, the main characters anyway, and actually hold on. Robbin. Yeah, none more bodying anybody. They just yeah, but that's smart. Robin was gonna be like one of the strongest. I was a parents. The thing is, I Hasha on this point, is that her ten intelligence, yeah, finds her and like stands, makes her stand out as like of our that characters at all. Yeah, I do love the characters. The female practis. They want peace. They're not exactly strong, but they have other strong qualities. Yeah, but yeah, so I'm not. I'm not dissatisfied with the characters in one piece. is just Morita. Is Disgusting that they're supposed to be strong in ours. So they're actually supposed to fight, they're supposed to know how to fight, but they're just all about man. That's it, a thing. All of them just that obsessed with guys and that's it. That's the is and one thing is one thing. Also, I want to show you, guys, that I found this really interesting post on reddit where this individual kind of listed some of the points around what made the big three so popular. So I went to read them out and I'm to find that if you agree with them. So first point is that all big three are published at the same time and had a huge following. That I think we would agree at the time, back in the day, there's a lot of conventions and and I ma forums that. Sometimes I find forums from like two thousand and stuff, and people back then were discussing all that, the different chapter releases and different books and manger that's coming out. So I think at that time they were very popular ways of communicating, like also talking of other fans of the big three about all that, about the developments of the MANGAS. One thing to remember, as well as the big three was in the shouldy show on TV through cable and not online streaming. So one of the points that this user makes is that because they were like on cable TV in terms of like spoils and stuff. It was it had so much popularity that you were able to kind of enjoy it without getting spoilers and stuff where people getting ahead. So that made it, you know, that kind of kept it safe in a way. Kind of thing didn't have streaming. Lastly, they do point out as well, like most shown in the big three kind of follow like the standard footprints. So have the main character. It's offer their trauma. They receive some form of powerful ability that they kind of use, kind of achieve and like reach their dreams and like, throughout the course of the show you watched them get stronger and stronger. So I think back in those days when we were watching him, you know our young ages, that back in the day you kind of enjoyed watching that character growth and development and just to see how the story would be built up. So I've kind of very much agree with those points, but were great to make you kind of you guys, if you guys have any other views around what made them so special. Maybe a groove that first point in terms of public publishing. At the same time, I'd agree with that point. Yeah, I think that's the main one. For me. I think it's the big three because those are many three we kind of watch. I mean we watched dragon balls, but I don't know why we don't consider that the free joy tell I because it as a big three, because when it was brought to us it wasn't marked it as an anime. So like, yeah, that's exactly I'm thinking that poking and such sect, even sailor moon like, which is from yeah, like just same times rangons you. Maybe we just didn't know anime right there was told to us as just as just one more cartoons in it. So as all right, cool, this is a cartoon to me. So when I think about as as part of anime context or a big three kinds, I think in terms of big free I think dragon walls were considered a precursor to the big three and I think that because of that there is now able to become a big free because you're Putt into Dragon Bull Zy, digimon, Pokemon, sailor moon and those first for ways and time. I think I'm so bar our first and experiences. Most people said that like was kind of the one off ones that we watched and we didn't know was anim at the time, but it's now come to like that is animal sort of thing and I think it was really interesting in the fact that I think a lot of the big three animes have influences, are doing, from dragonball that then, because of that, you can't really look that in to that big three category because it's influenced three other new animes that came after it. And Dragon Ball is so old that came out in ages or something. So it's a really old anime and throughout that time other you know Manga mangot authors have have looked at what's come before and said got to take a bit of this, going to take a bit of this, and just this that this is my new work. So I think because we're talking about time periods as all, so people forget about the fact that the big three is called the big three because of the time that it came out and then it is and the fact that most of those shows are so long running, so they didn't the same time Dragon Ball start in the S.

I think would be really hard to loop that in there and consider it and put it in the big three. Yeah, thinking about time time frames, I think that's what it is and that's why that's why I like make the statement that I don't really think they'll be a big free again, because we're now comparing that apples and orange. is so just speaking. Yeah, yeah, that will animal. Yeah, little fruits, but I obviously different kind of types and I feel like obviously dragon balls, Dragon Ball Z are the precursors to the big three. Now. And then beyond that is that everyone's looked at those three stories and I've they've been opened up to more different animal genres or there's been like well, we can't really that story in itself as a sacred one, so we can't replicate that exactly. So what new story you're going to come like, compare it with, try and do like fl comparison is really difficult. Yeah, the one never been a little big free, but I genuine they can't. One is that people are trying to say with me, three was for it. So my hair Aftania and black level, which is laughable, but fine, it's actually okay. You don't have to repay. You can just enjoy it now. That is done, that ere is over, like one piece of still ongoing. But it's not that. It's just one piece that it's not like we're you just say, oh, we're still enjoying the big three the only thing that comes close to it is the big one, which is attack on time. I didn't know. That's like the last the big one, the big one. There's something about attack. Fine, that's just like I feel like this in between me, like a sack, the new era and the old error. I feel like attack on time. It's one of the last anime that feel we all enjoyed collective, because nowadays everyone just into their own individual staff like not yeah, black my hair's a lot of people just like em and say I look loved the it's just something differences that we don't h I don't know anyone. I just like any of the big three that might not have. We've had. We've all had different favorites, but we all enjoyed the big three together collectively. But nowadays you can't get two people. So if you on the same I'm anymore. But I think attack on times like the only one I love. People can say. Yes, is a very good anime manger, and I love enjoy it. I mean I say, I don't think there's going to be a repe of that ever. And you know what as well, I just got one more point. I don't know which is really good one. Of the reasons I think it will never have another big three is a fact that at the time when the big three were being shown and obviously they were being written, these animes had minimum over one hundred episodes. You will not beginning another. We will not begin yeah, episode. I miss it. I'm yeah, yeah, but I really did that format. I missed that format. You can do that. You'd have a hundred episodes to watch. Now you're getting twelve, how many times a year, and they're just stretching it over like they're long to get them saying so I missed get reason. Yeah, I get it to yeah, I get why. I mean the hunt, the whole of this episode thing. I think it was just what you spend drive back then. I don't think I mean as much as I missed it. I will. I don't have the attentions fun to do a hundred episodes. I disagree, man. Mr I agree that I miss having knowing that this show is going to take me this kal of time to complete, you know, like it's it kind of as as cheeses. It sounds like a journey of you watching something you know. I don't need can anymore. I don't feel like they have the rain to do that. Do you a hundred episodes, no breaks, just ongoing? I don't think I can do it more. Okay, so I think one piece it's in a very weird category that I don't think any other anime CAS's done in terms of like consistently weekly releases with zero breaks and minimum like like that. That's just one thing. That's because the first seven hundred episodes of one piece anime had awful pacing. But that's the first thing. So don't trap replicate that. But I think I do enjoy the fifty seasonal anime like solely. I was a fifty two season anime, I think. Yeah, yeah, I love story to and for my partners as well for alchemists the same, I feel like in that fifty two episodes is enough to etch out a full story or solid art with great character development. Yeah, boking, I hero it does. I think it's twenty four episodes of season. If I'm creel, that's good too. I don't mind that. Yeah, which more than twelve? As long as more than twelve? Yes, I feel like. I feel like I think that. Don't it's doing toward to as you are taking a piss. Yeah, I'm enjoying it because not for showing them, for showing how, for like twelve episodes is enough, like the whole world building. Know that I won't get into it. You can't like the first two episode is ask me in the characters. That's it, like you don't know anything about you yet, but the pace and will be all for Wise I've going to do. Give me top of episodes and you tell me you're going to rush it to a find a boss fight. But in the first three episodes this guy didn't know his own powers, and then six episodes after that he's mast these powers. Dog, I don't want to see that. I'd like to let me know that he's going to get waxed, because animaze, no one ever gets waxed like. I've seen each of it. This up multiple times, and fists up more. I've seen you. If you get...

...fists up moliple times like this, it's mad. But I'm looking at love black over, even in the Manga Prom I don't you. I've seen as to lose once. Are you serious? I've seen that's to lose once. I feel like he's been I feel like I've, like you said, like a half loss where he's had to come back, but it's like is, it's like no Etil. What which was then of ask Pool Aster has that level of ass for that? He will. Will speak to the inner demon, say dog, I need a hundred percent. Now that seems like yeah, sure, so, Damn. I'm sick and tired of that. It was even enjoyable about that. If there's literally no like they're just guarantees always going to win. My so bard shown in for you. I think that's that's doublething. That makes the big three. I think I feel like I'm see steff ask. The question Tis of why is the big three why shown, and only the big three genre? Why is the bigger it only shown? That is the fucking English I was looking for and I think that it's just it's just the way it is. I feel like everyone's first, well most people's first foreign into anime was shown in. Yeah, really, checking out last of life like that, unless you knew about it. Romance just that, unless you knew about it. Get like that. otherage genres you will, unless you know about them, you won't really checking for them. They're like they're done by different developers. They really make into show and jump, which is obviously one of the biggest, biggest media outlets in terms of anime from in Japan, and so I kind of sport overwhelm into the UK, or globally, so to speak. So I feel like once you get a big push out of that and someone's going to tell you every single day, this is, this is what you to watch, this what you to watching. That all right, cool, meybe Sho Chok it out. Then well, damn, it's like Jo, mean it's I could you have his witness? You look out, do it every day and not not like maybe have a conversation, not drive a witness or obs like discredits to those witnesses. But obviously you've got your I won't think about all right, cool, I'm gonna have fromversation now, Joman. So I get it like but obviously like that. Back to your attack on time point, I think attack on titans really different and sense that I wouldn't consider it a shown in either. I think it's in the world of like like a scene in signing. I don't have to say it. That's really good. has a very like a different appealed in terms of I don't think I've ever seen any end of May deal, like on the apocalypse type, the same way. Yeah, you would have like, what's the about? What that is it clussroom, the dead, on the zombies and the nudity. That really one. High School, the High School d EXT The perfect one in that one. Yeah, but then if you're going to shove t ease in my face and say here's the story, but has some breast, I don't want it right. Can Solid. Give me solid story, solid action, solid character development, and I give you a character I can relate to you. I want to see a character be a decade. That's why I love freezer so much. I Love Freezer. He's any races. Hey, hey, he's a business. Think he's a business man, you know, just do it. He's a business. And that's my point, man, just joy planets for Hey, hey, hey, do not see that your problematic fav so freezer our goat. I want to ask you, guys, the question. What would you say to someone he says that the only reason that the big free is popular is because of the nostalgia factor? Like, what would you say to them as well? Okay, yeah, it's at one is a non point, because I like cool. But yeah, the same way some people like different types of music said Oh, yeah, this is a Banger, no, it's not. Yeah, I mean that's a bit. That's your business. It's all subjective. Okay, for enough, but I also, I would say, I disagree, largely because Tommy and anime to this day that has the lunch of you, that one piece can do, that has the unique character signs that bleach Chad and has the song like the very big interweaving. I would one piece has a better but in the weally it does it to a degree and like fling back on characters like, for example, them dragging madder or back into meritake their dimensions back in, basically Jeremy, like explain the stuff that was many. I can rewatch it. I re watch all of them and still enjoy as much as I did the first time. I can watch bleach again, man, bleach, I feature so slowly, not just skip, skip the feelings and you'll be fine. Just and yes, this easily. Now it's a part one I can watch easily, not part, not shipper then and I could. I have really watched one piece, as I know it sounds mad, but I've watched, I've re watched one piece and I still enjoyed them like it's not. It's not just nostalgia. Fright on, that saysn't star just just taking the Piss as really head. It's Hass this then saying it's that. Are you Indun says, the best anime of all time and I cannot wait on, on guard on they finish anime in that whole seat, that whole Manga, people are going to cry devens. They are like, I don't know how they got the best anima. I really don't understand that. Like twent twenty in it good. It was good, but it wasn't. Did Youra do not knows me is that...

...shol it doesn't have to be the best animey of the year. There were so many good romance animes. That's about okay. You don't like SARS, life, whatever, the other genres. That would just as good. That were out at the time. Demons out that, Ye know, like Dia I I. I enjoyed that. We aren't even my Heracor Dame was their season out. Wherever season that was out, that was better. One of those two seasons a year. I commend my heroes work rate, Bro they did. I love it. I love it, but I don't get how demons say was the best anime that year, like it really wasn't that. It was good. I enjoyed it was a very strong start, but to sales the best anime, I remember so many people of sess. The thing is, though, as much as I didn't care for it to be the first best animal of the year, a lot of people are trying to be antype these something like no, it's trash, like you know, how can people be into this? It wasn't that bad, like you don't have to like it, but it was about at all. There was an amazing as someone that read the mango from the jump, let maybe ten chapters in. I'm telling you, they did really like for me, I love when they went anime adaptations are done to the same level of of the mango's content, I mean like the animals, wishy was she and maybe like you pictured it in a way and the anime has not done it the exact same way you've done it. So you're just disappointed. And I don't know, maybe because, maybe because went to a very, very, very good studio that demon stay was was top tier, because even the movie at they're doing, which they're just going to basically in capsulate our whole arc and to say this is a movie which, I don't know, I'm scared that they might ruin it, but I'm I'm happy. I'm happy that it was animated and was done well. Just in terms of some of the themes and concepts in the big three, I thought might be interesting to kind of go into some detail about that and kind of maybe think about some of the ones that you enjoyed and you dislike. So I'll just give you, guys, some examples. So when you think of Naruto, obviously shown in which is more about, you know, it's more gear towards a younger crowds. So sometimes I always introduce concepts and themes so they're not very much looked into depending on WHO's watching it. But when you think about Naruto, for instance, you do have themes that touches on like politics. It's when you think about that the Schanoby world, and you know, even things about I wouldn't say race, but like families and just like disputes would be one. When you think about bleach, the concept of death and the afterlife is one that's very much you know, incorporate into the whole anime itself and even one piece as well. Like it just talks about like dictatorships, war, the use of bio weapons. There's a lot, even though you might not you might not immediately think of them as like a long time as we're all long term what long time watches? They very easy to identify. So there any of your favorites that you liked from some of the some of the big three, just your key themes that would just run throughout the whole anime that you that you related to, that you enjoyed as part of the overall plot. And because I don't write in a room, I'm kind of limited between looking at one piece and bleach. I don't give it a satisfaction of saying some people in peace related. So I'm about while you think about it, I'll give you one. So with one piece, I really like the whole geopolitical aspect of it. So in the world building in one piece is insane. You have all the different world you know, like that. They're stay in here and they're each island at the store hats go to. There is some form of Geo political issue going on. So that is I I very much pick up on and I enjoy kind of watching developments understand in the back story of each new island location they go to, which very much kind of, you know, sums up the whole, the whole arts. So I like the way o the things in that sense when he he tends to loop that theme in wherever the store hats go. Yeah, I definitely agree that. I also how all the shore hats are pirates, but they're not actually the bad guys. We don't see them as a bad guys, whereas Marine Ford or like the government, but were they seen them as the bad guys. So I don't really know how to put that, but I do enjoy that as well. Fast, Chizz, that's just liberalism. That, as you understand the world around you. Now we're but I mean it doesn't. Will want to send you to open your fucking eyes. Bro It's true. Looking honestly is amazing. Okay, I wouldn't. I never look at one piece. I think right, what's the serious issue? I just worked like I'm a very I'm very surfous. Watch a full of CON cent in it. So it's like whatever, you okay, it's okay, you can be that. Yeah, that's that's when people say are some animals are shit. It's all right, cool, but I know I'm just here for the fight, it seems only so, I mean, I'm gonna take the fights and just go home. So I'm not...

...really looking like when people tell me, are you still being black cloth dog? It's all don't know how I do it, but some of the panels and some of the fights they're a bit cool. Yeah, I mean it's a bit great, but like the I is, I watching, I know there's serious content involved. I watch and I pay attention to the content involved. HMM, but I with one piece I fought like yes, I agree with the kind of whole geopolitical and it's every it's across every single aspect of the show. Like it'll be constant references to the navy, constantly references to what I demand, that control everything, the dragons, and then and then that rout old ones that will wear the black suits are just chilling wherever that places. Oh, CP, the CP nines in them. Yeah, the so I remember the guys. Yeah, what caused the general for her, there was guy. Yeah, the bast basic just dictate who, who becomes war lords and all of that. Oh, I know you're talking about with the names just are yeah, the ones that ever made a joke. Offers actually might even as say another don't say it the side Hut or sad, the card. Yeah, the girls. I. Yeah, that's it. Don't he's was Scots canceled. Good. But yeah, I like that. I think bleach does a tackles life and death as well as friendships. Interestingly, that Chad seems to be a bumbleck and just powful, like he just wants to be part of the crew, but I think he wasn't a valuable member. I think, but not like like chat. Chad is probably like one of the winds characters in their show for me, in the sense is he is. I don't forget he's in it. They don't really explain how he got these devil's arm that it will explain much about it. It's just it revolves like once every Arkans. Okay, he's now doing ill director. It's just a bigger beam. That is shoes every single day. You Never, ye every see him train with it. It's just kind of there. So I mean, like whatever, but I felt like a Pincusian purposes. Yeah, yeah, she's just that. You know, they want to diversity and said let's get at this. You know, Mexican, or I remember. He's ethnicity is very ambiguous because he says yeah, and then he's heritage says another thing. So I'm not sure what he is, but let's say I think it was whole Hawaiian or Mexican. I think that's what was. Mexican. I see ginger banded. How do you get there? Yeah, he's transfer student. Explain that. Yeah, he's remember. Did you ever become friends? I'll apologize. I forgot that. A little detail. That okay. He's a Mexico of Japanese sense. Obviously is raised in Mexico. I think he came over because he's GRANDPA died, his family died. Yeah, and granders, so you can say his dads whatever, something like that. But again, they never explained how he's kind of got the devil's arm. Is kind of appeared one day's all right, cool. Put it rolled it. Yeah, yeah, maybe they did, but it wasn't like a rememorable stories. That all right. That's how I got his arm. We know how. or a human got up powers because she had a whole Jocko or whatever that I think is called, and she managest and powers. But that right, fair enough. He's just there. Like that point you made about and Chad being useless. It just kind of makes you think about how it love of animates. I tend to do this whole group of three thing. So you have obviously each go, or he may chat. And then the retail you have an averts ask and I'm succora. That the group of three. It tends to work. It's like a it's like, yeah, obviously each goes. Obviously that Luke. He's got gang gang. So it's not good, more than free, but in yeah, but I think the generally is are free. If even if you look at attack on die in his arm in what's his face? And MIKASA Aaron. That's the flu the main three. Yeah, but sorry, his name. Don't shower me. I'm sorry. And there's also what there was one useless person, like apparently sucker. I don't like that. Apparently, out of those three, I guess she is the most useless. But yes, this is everyone says she because she's more screen type, as everyone thinks, as everyone says she is. I don't know why she gets so much hate. That's not a well bring character at all. But she's not that bad. But in bleach to stay both used this are he met and Chaddow USTAS was really made. Basically was the only person that could. Yeah, I guess you that she rejects injuries. It doesn't make sense. Actually, did she do it? Wasn't it into time, or she didn't really do it that well, like, like she's like she's is to reject to reality, to how fake that is.

Here's some reality. Know, I rejected like it's good works, but each have a holy chest and that you'll put these, the hair bands out and say yeah, and then she's started crying. I mean he's yeah, the same keyboard music. Nothing in bleach makes put in the background. Wing ever, to what to go, I think, yeah, it was probably just like this one's been crying a little bit too much, you know. So I think I'm going to give her a little bit of a task. Yeah, just so she just so she could be a bit more useful. You know, I'm so white the tears. She gave a tea medic. I'm so dead. Dude, nose first aid. She did first aid, not even exactly. It's not even healing, just first AIDS, last and bandage gone. You're good to fight guys, go and get out of it. Go on. And then who else? It's happen tie and I think meet me cassle down name. I think she's the what was the useless? She's not used as I just feel like she's not the most interesting character. I really think I found her so boring. The same thing with SUCCERLA. She's just always talking about are in this are that like her whole character. It's just based around and that's it. And she's strong. Same sacer. So she's used just to so you're say use as at just she's just there. You know, she's a really strong character. I guess she saved a few people, but if people say suckers, users, then they have to see me, because it uses I'm so sorry that. If anything, stuff was done way more for the story than Mikaus the house. So that's my argument right holding. Wait, sorry, Darling. What did you say? If succras Usus, then meet us in these less, because can kill. Yeah, and everyone could kill in that story, like every if in our too, people would kill, then suffer could kill too. Like she's strong as well, but it's like, you know, micause is just there. She's just a strong character that she's obsessed with Erran. That's it. That she asks nothing to the story. If anything, supper has done more for the story than Mika's house. Joe, I haven't read enough of the man. It can't to this argument. What you're saying that are in is susk and me cast. There is Sucura. Is that say? Yes, so iver. Just the name kind of se saying her honey. Basically, I think she's used us. If people say Suff was US this and I'm saying that me because as useless now. But sacras of the scrub, I mean Mica is a scrub. So yeah, like like she okay, soucle, the top of the scrub pile, or second top of the scrub pile. So second one, I mean the Botha they're both on top. Now she's I mean I mean your in terms of scrubs. Yeah, she's. She's else Scrabbington. She's top by I'll give it. Actually in them. Not say she stopped too, but had my question. Actually, can I remember some topic of the timeline about would stock, you know here, ever surpassed the big three or even reach the Big Three? I was and the question that was actually, the I wanted to focus on was in terms of characters and in terms of big three, to the characters play a big pit like terms of memorability the characters. was that what made them like? was that also eccenter at the big free? And if that's the case, would do you see booking? I hear I ever reach that level types of characters, or as even as a as a anime mangaver. You look over, take her wants. A simple ones are known. No long answer. No, no, it's just not like I don't feel like my heracnomic can surpass the big three. It's just untouchable. When wherever you I don't know how you're measuring this whole spassy thing, this popularity whatever, but like I just can't see it. Like I can't see the characters transcending, you know, a past, that anything like. I can't see any of that happening with my haraph name are as much as it happens with it's happens with, sorry, the Big Three. I can't see it. I agree with you and I think Joe is that. I just think it just comes from a need for people just want to compare things all the time. That's it like you know, just enjoy the show, just enjoyed the anime. It's hard. Obviously we're humans would like to compare things, but you're comparing an anime that came out how many years ago, okay, over ten years ago, decades, with something that's new and current. Of course. Yes, a lot of these new Manga car have taken influence from previous anime Manga that have come before. Yes, there might be some certain aspects of the main characters, the characteristics that can be pulled from that, but I don't think it's gives anyone an immediate green light to go ahead and say, yeah, that's compared to this. Sometimes just near my day and a lot of I think, an...

...anime like, as I say, far as academia and anime like one day, I guess and I know another way, like my hero is it's different. I find out it's quite modern as well. Yes, a lot of the plots have been used beforehand. Is Very much geared to you today's audiences. When you watch my hero, you just see how modern it is. Into these my target audience. Now how caw can I wrap around this whole high school set anime to make it appealing to viewers of today, not to say isn't appealing to newer viewers. It's more relatable to us because we grew up with it, but kind of come and say that it's the same, it compares. What if it doesn't compare to anything and it's its own thing? I agree and I think, I think. I think booking her will become, and I generally believe that in its own right, will become his own legendary series. And I'm going to stay. Yeah, I'll say it's now second of August, two thousand and twenty, that book and I her become a legendary anime in its own right. I don't walk. I don't think you will to compare it, and I think to the closest thing you might even want to compare it to you would probably be humdex hunter, but even then you wouldn't really compare it, because I feel like the big three are comparable because they are the trendsetters for many of the things now too. They deal with modern issues and they do it in two typesos in terms of actually societal issues and poo, school based issues, like friendships, dealing of that, and then like the concept of good versus evil. There's Day ark in itself is challenged their concept of good versus evil. Like what really is good versus evil? Like everyone wants to talk about being the best at this, this and that, but is, and I'm really about it, people just want the fame and the glory chat. I mean it's act till people wants to be a youtube bar and wants to make money of that. And that that is. That is the our general the generation. This is aimed at the caprison generation, I call it. You men want thirty second and drinks from one. Everything a face second. So Dad, the same way that Manga, because I only putting out twelve episode an amazed you're not taking the Piss's sending me just it's like a prison series right now. I'm not going to be excited by that. And after wait for three to four arks to come through from that. Yeah, I'm involved. Yeah, power of God was so good. They gave me top episode. I was pissed off. Nice, so pissed off I was. I dog. Where's the rest of the twenty four's? What's the other twelve? But then again, this generation is like everything so fast pays. Like back then, were given three will given three anime and we were enjoying that. We never ask for anything more, like, but now it's like as much as no one. There's a long givity that everyone just like enjoying what's given to them at the time, and then we forget about it and the new season comes out at Oh yeah, okay, cool, and then watch it just it means just so fast pace and we're just consume so many things that one go. But like that's it. How hard is they have any favorites anymore? Wow, laugh is just weak. It Sup but yeah, that's what. That's why I break down anime differently that Joman, not indifferently, in different like in different categories, in terms of what I'm watching it like like some one piece I'm consuming for the full Ting, like when I'm watching certain animes. I'm watching like demon slayer, like the story there even even fact the whole mang go into his end, was not great, like it was. It was a plot that worked well within its confines in it, but there wasn't like those no morals I should take from it. There was no like life kind of arguments and stuff I actually be taken from it. Yeah, we'll just driving. Just let's okay, cool, Great Sword Fighting Animation Stas for look made everyone love the Manga or the animate that much. And like, when you think of that, it is a right cool compared to the old scarf old stuff. It's great animation. So we look at it concurrently as bit shit, but quality stuff. I mean story was great, characters were great. I mean now you're looking at one of three things being great. You'RE gonna have to sacrifice the other to Joh. I mean you're going to ever get a good story and terrible looking characters. We're going to get like a like promise leatherland. Yet she became all lives matter, great concepts out of really work. I said, you know what, guys, I'm here for everybody to survive. You say, all right, cool, I'm no longer involved, John. I mean. But actually, other than fat form, not for my fartner. No, yes, for what's welcome this fromhood. I don't think I've enjoyed and anime or anger for a long time, from beginning to end. It's like about it. It's not ended there. So we don't know how. You know how they're going to conclude things? I have full of formats for our most brotherhood did that so well, like it paper. It ended, and now I was satisfied. I've never, I never usually feel satisfied with the ending of an anime. If it's a shown in or better anime, if it's like show Joe, Romance, whatever, that's fine, but when it comes to like shown them or any of these are...

...battle animes, I can't. When it ends, I'm just like, okay, all right, it's always ending with the main character marrying someone and I'm having kids and shot Kare. Just let me know. That is how dem with fans list them. Why is it okay? You see, it's just that it's like it's like, okay, we don't all this fighting now, we can just sell down and get married, just like what, like one here, for I want to see people die still if I want. I would love it if they may. Characters the dad they end like just just really me one time, like and then just happy. Why? It is negativity, like why? I just need party, like it's not every day that. That's where I get my I get my happiness fixed from show Jo and romance when I'm watching, okay, maybe not shown in, but like when I watching these, like bat one mays, it's just always just okay, we're fighting, by and by and fighting, fighting, then towards the end it's like a bit of romance. And then I said that's a fairy tales. Well, people are listen. If you still watch their Tel you were on be in it for the ships. There's no way you were in it, forty that you only in it. See you only in the sea, the people that WHO looks up with? Who's your favorite ships, you know, actually come through like that's it turns out towards the end, like does so she get the girl? I mean does does he get the girl? Does she get the Guy? That's what that's how all shown an angry as end at the end. Okay, you spit from right now, honey. I agree with no one's watching nose. Watching Fairytale for character designs. They're not asshole. Now, unless you're there for the fan service, there are many who are there for it and that is a sickening trade. That's their man in I do not leave you and are perverts and I'm sure my whole chest that's human in it. But I was watching fairytale for amazing fight scenes, because they're not, as in very style, for a great story because it's not. That was your fairy style for character development, because there's none. Do I mean for the love? I mean you theref relationships. You look and see what happens. I've got a GV jet. I mean yeah, yes, Bitch, that TV. You know, that's really it, and that's how all show end up. Like we're just said to see the ships. Yeah, but you know what I'm the problem with. But beside, that's not why I intended when I first watched it. Jo. I think that point right. There is a great conclusive argument that the new shown and new modern age anime there's not gonna be a big three ever Fu ever, and if you're really watching stuff now, you're picking from one of three things. Mean and that, and that's it that you have. You're not going to get amazingly long St I mean I can fire forces looking real good from what I'm seeing to far, but then get there's those extreme oounts of fans. That was in that that is that makes it sometimes a bit too so off putting, so hard, like no point intended so hard to watch. That's the wating. I stopped. I dropped it because of that, like it was just too much. It's exactly. But that's it. That's that's where, that's what. Okaydn't moderate animal nless you are a and the innate persct. Then you are looking for an Alco fan service and uplot or Fan Service and character designs or Fan Service, and something goes st I mean you have to do but generally like you're not going to get a lot. Not Going to get like many multi layers and even when pun to accept hunter stopping now when, yeah, our man being ill for a get like yeah, I mean there's not going to be an and I guess, I guess. Let's see how it happens, I. How poking a hero does beyond this first academic year, because I don't know, in my opinion of these, I don't know how it's going to go beyond that. Do you skip and say write this, what happens post schools, or do you just leave as that this is your one and you can fuck off now? Yeah, I'm not really. I'm already too fast about the time. You know, like a lot for us, is the time skips with my record email. I hadn't really care. A huget like has only been what they're still in their first year, but I mean, is what it is like. Well, that's but that's the thing. I and I think that that is another issue. I feel like some people want to come to validate anime. If there's no timescape, it's not valid. It's yeah, that's bullshit, like me. So it created it. Well, for I sat. It's not every day. That is actually everything. Look at very tall they did. That's exactly when I stopped watching. When they're when they're about, it happened. Okay, when attack, it happens. that. What was the point? You just did it for what, like is I dropped it right after that. I was so bad. They did the time skipping. They came out and said down, well, week, let's train. Don't you're going to tell me you're going to train for six, two weeks. I'm not having that time skipping vibes like literally nothing. They did nothing in the certain that time scape. Now for combany you know, drinking up and doing coolids and beats than doing beat selfies, Doug Take it, take it a button called. They did not have a time skip like they told killed,...

...like they were on annually for two years and they came back and everyone else was stronger. But there she said annually is one kids. Those are seven and then he grows up and he's like. I'm like what that's happening? Everyone is strong, but you like that's so embarrassing. It's just it. Yeah, it's not every day that you have to you can do times get well and it does happen to be two years like it is typically. Could be like six months. It could be, you know, like if in my heir of dam yea, I wouldn't mind if I was like if someone suggested you can go from first years like graduation and we kind of fount and I'll be hind it up. Wouldn't bin like that's fine, guys. It's different challenges. I don't know, Joe, I'm a people. I don't know how you're going to continue running that anime for season two, because all this happening season one, e. and to mean second year is going to do it all over again. Yeah, it's just DRI mean. I don't see it for three years, but I think my hero is on three hundred plus chapters and out of me and you're to me for another three hundred chapters. have to deal with this. But in year two, summer, year older, now he's going to become immortal, like deck, who's going to become a molt UN. There's no going to move because driving I don't want to. There's nothing else he can do. Based on worst anime that you can in the manguish, I say that you can do differently one piece. So this is a one piece specific question that we had on that. This that we wanted to cover. So in your opinions, why do you think that one piece has continued to stand the test of time and it's still highly regarded and love because it is? What is ODA doing these to the people? Like what is he getting right that we just love? He's indoctrinating you guys. Capitalism. That's what it is, is capitalism. Don't know? Well then, what absolum? Give me some of that, like I'm sorry, but he's doing bits like amazing stories telling, like that was its key world building, but mainly for the storytelling, like we're there because you want to see what happens at we're going to see, you know, like if they're going to find listen, I'm not resting until we find whom. Piece, like it's just a very simple like it's just from the beginning we knew what the goal was. Yeah, yeah, he's still hasn't achieved it, but we're here to see whether lucy can find one piece. But it's good storytelling. But that's the main reason why I feel like it's going away is one piece is so good and as much as I don't like to agree that on pieces that good. Why? Why is that a case? You ever just when it gets older? No, no, I just I thought one piece fans are as good as ours, are as crackheadish as demon slayer fans. No Way. What you mean we actually had? We actually have, you know, like we're really polite people. Nope, and we have these that we we're not not just saying it. We could justify it anyway of every year, like you know, and and again. See reason I don't want to Contin this is because you just up. Is that that point? I said, all right, cool, fair enough. I just called Abby. Yeah, take that. If you're not a cracked you wouldn't be offended. My dear I'm not cracker, just the insinuation that we are crackheads because we love one peace. I am sorry at the truth hurt. It's because one piece is crack. I don't blame him. One piece. Is that fine, you know, class a crack. Agree with anything that I'd be says on this podcast of crack and crack. I think one pieces to the chest of time is because it generally doesn't falter like I think. I think with the content is part of there. It's given you enough content to go and look back at what you may have missed. Whenever talk about for Shaw Doing, I can't agree. I cannot disagree that on these amazing is the only person that I could use for shadowing with in in terms of Manga Cart I don't think there's many anime Manga car. That's is right. Okay, here we are in episode seventeen. I'm going to give you this snippet, but in episode one thousand, three hundred and two has explained here, and you know it is that animal for for every time here we do, I'll be like would never stop yeast that. What can you do? Because I have enough information. So you think about the time. It said. All right, cool, but I don't know anything. Camels can just leave it. And then he really is up a point. Was Given enough time to die out. If you guys, to forget about any buried in your men and memory with a new characters or seventy two new arts and said, actually, remember, remember that thing I did back then. Here is again and Jeremy, like you know what I key was mentioned, wait, way back, and you know that. Now there's the bit of one washikey first mention, because was it when? Ye, I think when thanks first Dave loofy was that? Was that one mentioned? But or do we go after? That's like I like. Well, and that's another thing for me. I feel like the theories and all the debates keep one piece to life still,...

...like one piece have the best, I feel like, the best series of all anime, like I can't. That is in one piece series, like the videos and like all the breakdowns at people do for every chapter. Even I don't watch reaction videos, but I love watching one post so good. They're so amazing and it's just like that. Like I feel like it is another thing that keeps one piece like a live still. All the discussions that we can have, all the debates, all the theories wi other are amazing. So lastly, call the end this wonderful podcast episode, what you work for as Ikademia. I know we we touched on this briefly earlier about how you know the big three can never be replicated. is in it. It's the the older big three. Obviously one piece, bleach and Nearuto is the only big three. But in recent years, I'm not sure if he has have noticed, but there has been talk of shown and jump trying to push for a new big free and obviously not here for it because we know who the original bif we are. But they're trying to push it. So Demon slay, obviously we mentioned, has kind of been a contender, along with my hero Academi on black clover, as potentially being like a new modern big three. So what do you guys think of? Like what showing in jobs doing, and is it down to money? Is it dant marketing? What did it? What are they trying to sell us, because I just think it's just everything comes back down to money. So it's like a market. You think three they might be. I don't know what will come from that, but they will produce new big free potential content and that's where I think it's stunts from all because it ordered to just come back down to them just wanted just for the whole comparison thing again and just wanting us to have something new in this eraror just as we did in the early two thousand to two thousand and ten. I think it's the former because down to money or it's a Fo't. they're gonna flop, like there's no way. They're better off just creating something else that I don't know. It doesn't have to be a big anything to just be all of these marks to different groups. So I doesn't have we're not all going to enjoy demons there. We're not all going to enjoy or see O one that I don't know, my hero that's over my hair. That I mean like that. Some of them are going to be more popular than others, but it's like even demons layer the popularity. Again, I really don't understand how or why, but I mean there were so many people that enjoyed it and that was if. That was without comparing it to one piece or NATO or bleach. So they should just leave it like. They shouldn't have to push this whole big three. Just let them live, you know, let them stand on their own because they're doing well. I think it's yeah, I agree with that. Thins the latter. I think there's legit just a money push. I think in this current generation, like I said, kept some generation. There's never going to be a big three again. There's never gonna be anything that can replicate that, and I don't let you even be a like and a way to try and replicate I don't think anything would ever come to the what job. The day with any we can get a big three is if you just released actual long lasting anime. And yet I agree like as long as one pieces still going. And the talk about the span. I don't know many mangers that I've shown in Mangas that I've spanned years, like if like decades, even decades. Yeah, decades, even jamming. Like the average shown an anime or mang going spans currently three years. Macks that. Three years. You're probably going to get hundred, two hundred episodes Max and it before you know it on to next thing. Yeah, it's that simple, like, and I think with that in mind, it just makes a little bit more. Now we're gonna have a big free every three years. Is that we are trying to do? Like as just dead, you know, like it's like it's not going to be possible, we're not gonna like the Big Three will remain the big free and then just everything that's come after that is with you, like once you start saying we need a new big three, that I'm going to have a weird loop of big threes every Xis at the moment, because and it will no longer be a big three. Or just be like, Oh, here's the top yeah, exactly, we can have top three is. That's fine. I'm talking would be objective, but big threees me to make a big thing. You need to, I have a limit the releases of staff, or make it amazing, because if we'll do a big free, his big freezier, but they might be the best anime of all time. That's that's that last just put that out like big free doesn't need their top ten. animaze, gentleman, they just big narriety. Notoriety around them was mad. They were so on theme, because we're Doo what big free. Everyone puts form out, alchemist brotherhood in the top five. Yeah, exactly, they do top five, and minimum is top three. Trying me,...

I mean Maxim's top three. Should I say so? If we're talking about big free, and then everyone's seem out those only one, two and three in everyone's list. Are you're going to can be silly. Mistaken me. Yeah, because deaf not is also mentioned as people's top anime. Looking at and a big hi Q. that's the sports anime. Jiming, MMM, don't mean I there's it's going to be a generally it's going to be impossible for showing to even possible. Mean see it. They shouldn't. They shouldn't try it like. I mean, you over, have discussions as much as they want, but it's just not going to happen. It's just that's it. That's not going to happen. And and and the hardest part is that even with the current like proper shown animal out out falking a hero, nothing is even looking remotely good. Like, gentleman, there's loads of anime that I've come and gone that people are forgotten. That's the problem that there's not going to be a big three that would be like globally recognized. Thanks so much again for tuning in. We hope that you've enjoy this entire discussion on the big three. The only big three that is acknowledge. Any other big three is just yes, it's got the best. Obviously. Anyone also tries to say there's another big free is that version. A blow is like studio designs to get to connect with us on our social so at for as academy on Twitter. Last all your thoughts on what's been discussed. You agree, would disagree with some of those points. Is anyone stretching or some of their issues? Just let us know what you think on all things about the big three. Let's know which one's your favorite, and just any any sports. I've been discussed on tast episode. Let us know on our socials before we go, let's let the people know where they can find us. So I'll be you can go first. I'll be on scoring Ulan on twitter and you prime the prime toes and on twitch the prime toes. I'll beyond the score Momo on twitch. Yet follow these guys on twitch and you can find me at shut up eight underscore on twitter and, as I say, it's again connected us on the socials. Say Yeah, look out for next episode. Thanks for listening.

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