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4 Eyes Academia

Episode 30 · 1 year ago

Voice Actor Appreciation || Episode 30

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Our main topic on this episode looked into how voice actors are perceived and whether they are respected for their work by the mainstream media as well as the general public.

On this episode: @Chrinkster @Estrella_8 @Oluwaponz

Okay, guys, welcome to foris academia. This is podcast episode thirty and I enjoying the punlet by Punley. I guys, and there's still everyone. So you guys been up to thisweek? We been watching, reading, not doing should be doing. Istarted watching because I've been seeing peace. Many people talk about Viking, soI'll start watching that. Okay, I get a little bit of what'sso far, so good, by money, like on season one. Still likeepisode six and I'm still continuing my play for Fiz and Z are dawn. That's really only game playing mainly. Maybe I'll play for you for inthere, but Yah, I'm still playing horizons are a dawn. I've writethought so many hours on that game, but I love fun, the deals. I've done the extra deal C content. Now I'm going back to the maingame. Okay, probably, I'll probably not complaining the next time,sometime next week or thumping for yeah, fantastic game, and then I don'tknow what game I'll go on to next, maybe, but to demons force.Yeah, that's a use. No fuckings. That the kind of obviouslythe Vikings one, because I was recommended to watch vikings after game of friendsended, so I was told. You know, he's just still she's Gore. Still got that bit of that taste for game of friends. So WatchViking. So that's been on my list for such a long time. Soexact to start as well. And in terms of this week, I actuallymade time to sit down and watch some TV, like on Netflix, becauseI haven't been using it as much. So I actually finished the entire firstseries of looping and like two days. Really really good sub obviously because wedo dubbed around here. So so, which is really interesting as quite refreshingto watch such an interesting French drama, for at the French every now andagain they bring out a really good one. So even also quite interesting to watchand as much as not similar to the anime, it was a reallyinteresting adaptation to follow. So I need, if I said, six now.HMM. It's funny how everyone thought looping was going to be linked tothe anime, but they didn't know that loop in the third existed far beyond, way wait before the looping anime ever existed. But yeah, I meanmyself, I've been watching. I mean I call up with Jiujitsu Kaisen.I need to catch up from that. I say that I release even started. I'm on your own lap, Chap. I want to start reading the Manga. Keep saying this. So, yeah, go see. I've beenmeaning to read the Manga as well. I just need to know where Ineed to start in comparison with the anime. I don't want to completely start overagain because I just have have the time. I've been reading book,you know, here again, because after all my Manga APPs and Kapoots,I kind of lost track of where to read anime and we were to readManga. But I happened to me as well. I'm now got another Mangaup. I'm going to look through the up my previous at the final themangaht. Yeah, yeah, and you said that new Manga up, because, yeah, I just I'll searched mangoes. It's a secret. Have to beatthat. Yeah, we'll beat that. I borrow, I'll bring it toyou. I'll let you know in the groups. Yeah, by releases, guys. Yeah, in terms of in terms of gaming, I've beenplaying rainbow six siege, which is really interesting. Today I'm planning on playingsome OTS of OAR traveler, trying to get back into that again, playinga peg's can be hard work and sometimes I think it's that initial we firststart. Yeah, when you first start as long, but then when youget into it, then you get hurt. Yeah, exactly, as always beenme. So, yeah, in terms of news, so what's thefirst bit of news that we've got? I mean one that came about lastweek was Harry Potter Being Delayed Till Two Thousand and twenty two. So wasthat all right? Harry butter, the...

Harry Potter game? Yeah, whichfor which console? Oh, I think it's my is multi platform? Yeah, okay, yeah, because multi platform. So I don't know what that means. I don't know if it means that the game in its current stateisn't good or if they want to put so much into it that I releasethis year isn't a viable and then you've also got the case of everyone's lookingat cyberpunk and looking hot, looking at how badly that furned out. Sothis shot, nobody wants to make that the same mistaken promise a date thatthey can't deliver. Yeah, so, which they can't deliver? Some funkersreally made it high profile and or they really brought to the spotlight. HMM. Yeah, ages has it hasn't died down a little bit. Maybe I'mnot in blute. You know what, there is outrage, but I wouldsay that that the was a Wednesday, Tuesday ones if I've got someone usinside, profunk actually. Yeah, so on Tuesday. I think one ofthem, one of the founders, yet under fathers can direct. Yeah,it did a kind of it's almost like a keynote essentially, essentially speaking tothe public, explaining what we're what we're wrong with the cyberpunk release and whatthings were done, how they didn't really believe the game was finished and theymade bad calls. They also US thought they plan to do moving forward forout two thousand and twenty one and beyond, and I think because of that itdid get quite a good response. Even when you look at the likethe lights of this like ratio on the we on the Youtube Video, it'spretty good. It seems that people do have a bit of confidence. Itprobably will get right. Yeah, yeah, I think I'll get right as orbut yeah, yeah, saw that as I did watch eat eat.The management did. So don't blame the developers. Blame it on the managementthemselves. It was their call. EXCEECH or they said they thought the gamewas fine from but I don't know about that. There's a few things ofthe thing. I have an issue because they said they thought the game wasfinally did their test, did q way testing and stuff. But really youshould have known seen from a get going, especially with the base models pierce usedfor next book day. It was no, we need goods because youcan see from the get good of bug and glitches. But yeah, theydid say that. The stuff. Yeah, they said I think the next yearUPATES are coming out the second half of this year, and also thatI was actually seen a new another article today. Funny Enough, was itto day yesterday, and which can of is someone news? Actually, thethereves didn't think the game should shipping. They fought the game. You Shiftin two thousand and twenty two. Hmm Oh, that's a big dest ofyeah, massive games for again. I came out in two thousand and twenty. The really of Shit in two thousand and twenty two. This says quitea bit, man, that some others quite a lot. It's a factthat you said that. How the management was saying that they thought that thegame was fine to reason in two thousand and twenty just shows I think.To me I just kind of get the impression that their standard is work toohigh to accept something that would be fine. You know, would you know onesomething to be excellent, topnotch though issues. I thought they were justwilling to say, well, it's fine, it's okay, how it is.That's just put out there get some money. So, yeah, Ithink it's very much shows that they they're stilas they all aware that it wasjust fine and not the best I could have been exactly for CD pull it. Yeah, it was as bad over as we said for CD project becausethey guys have been held to such a high standard for, you know,be on the right side of the game. Has Been So contumer friendly and yeah, it's like, as I a lot to build back up anyway forthat. But yeah, we'll see. It's gonna Happen. The Games willcome out good when they finally do all the patches and stuff and actually getoff my money finally doing from our start playing the game again. I'm notasking. I'M gonna can't returning now anyway. But yeah, I'm still way herseat. Yeah, this is what is way pass returned they anyway.So I'm still waiting out for when it comes. I think you'll complete anyway. But yeah, we'll see. I'm sure you can because, hey,we've got our General Council here. Chris, legal side. Sure you got somesectary rights? I can find a what back con see the rights.Definitely so for but yeah, there's also been yeah, I mean there's alsobeen news. So exaspt for one thing I did see on the Internet recently. I think there's a couple sources by essentially GTA six, which we haveknown has been in development for quite some time. Apparently there's some new informationthat's apparently late, and allegedly we're finally...

...going to get a female protagonist,okay, as the main character, and still no idea where it's going tobe. But I think it's quite an interesting change to have a female leadcharacter because to my knowledge, you've never been able to use a female characterin a duty a game. M Yeah, no, not in the knee.Yeah, I don't think you have actually the teacher game. That wouldn'tcome duty online because that's just making your own character anyway. But yes,they are wise here detay, and I haven't I can't think of any.Yeah, it would be interesting time to be fair as well. Well,that's about time as well. Where would you like the location for the Jucsixto being at the time? Maybe they should re visit size revisits. Isee, I don't know. Nah, any other are yeah, London,long of the show. Actually, I like to see them do London actually, you know, in stall London. I like to see that as well. And this game Africa, for that could be fun. HMM, Legos, you know what it is. United is with with Africa. I cansee them, because you'd have to really, really understand Africulture a lot of thesesearch but I think it could be good day. Yeah, it could, it could be. It definitely could be. I don't think they will, and that's mostly due to, you know, misconceptions about Africa and eventhough rock style may be aware of like clock, there's plenty of amazing placesin Africa. There's a large infrastructure roads, trains, landmark. The majority ofthe people that are going to go into buy the game or know that. Yeah, true, I could see in Cape Town, you know.Yeah, see, I could see, I could see, I could decadesomewhere in South Africa. I could definitely see happening. Will it happen?Very Unlikely. I think it's going to be somewhere, somewhere a bit moreWestern. So be I think it'd either be the use. It's most likelygoing to be the US, but if it wasn't going to be the US, I think it would probably be the United States. I'm sorry, I'llbe you know, United Kingdom, boring. Who Done it? Okay, town, okay, time will be good to see Cape Town. I canactually see it. HMM. Definitely. And there's also needs on an IndianaJones game, which apparently is not other. Is it want to be coming outthis year? I think it might be coming out later on this year, possibly. I'd even read before, so I know. Yeah, thatstore. Yeah, jrk is going to be sorry. Go for it.No, go on, I wasn't say you're can be sex books exclusive?I don't. I don't think so. Yeah, I don't. I thinkso. But we don't know what the future of the furst the Games holdnow that Microsoft on them. I could definitely see it coming exclusively to gamepass, a free game pass. Yeah, so I could see that being somethingthat would interest a lot of people into buying the nextbox and getting gamepass. How the game will play I'm not sure I can think of likeparallels between, you know, fall out and then playing, you know,like the Indiana Jones film like Temple of Doom, where that there's a lotof kind of dark, gloomy areas, and I'm sure with next gend technologyyou could have a decent storyline, really really massive landscapes to travel across.So, you know, yeah, but, yeah, yeah, and as theydid say as well, about you be soft making a star war anopen world star wars game. Oh, yeah, which pleased. Yeah,which basically signals the end. We thank God for EA's exclusivity for Star WarsGames. Nothing about time, because E A, I don't want to getinto you. But yeah, I'm glad this stop that. Now for othercompanies. I have a go at the game some we'll see what you besaw us to do. Even though you be soft a bit and mess aswell, at least now gives more watchers for other companiess do do any somethingthe star wars license? Yeah, I mean a A. Anybe have hadtheir fashion problems, you know, with paid to win and boxes and allsorts, but I think maybe in the hands of someone else. So beinteresting to see what star wars would be...

...like yeah, but who knows?Nice we'll see when these guys come out, because right now you can never predictwhat you like. I don't say so. That's cool, that's true. But yeah, onto onto the main topic and quick question. Some ofthe versus dubbed. Okay, some of us is dubbed. Yeah, I'mmusic to fair. I used to be always just sub sub, but allowedmore these days. I feel like maybe sometimes I may need dumb because incase I'm looking at the screen, i. e. tell that she here.You know, maybe here is I can understand because, like some causea lot more concentration. You have to see this reader, subtitles of that, and I'm just like sometimes I just made won't do to you know,just easy. Don'tys have as much concentration, right, and as that is.That hold the same for anime and all other mediums of media. Sois that so all of the mediums of medium? For me I'm lazy.I can't make I like sometimes I haven't not as much concentricks. And anotheranother question I'll ask you. Are you someone who has subtitles even when thecharacters are speaking English? Sometimes he'd say yes, I'm post times sometimes.Sometimes, sometimes I'm really conflicted. I'm really conflicted when I'm watching something andpeople speaking in English and I'm still reading some titles, because it's like fairenough. Sometimes, if you're in allowed place or wherever, it can helpkind of guide the conversation. Sometimes, if some people's accents, and theymight, they might mutter certain words, it means that you can't hear whatthey're saying clearly and sometimes can help clarify that. But for the most partit's like you speak the same language. So why am I reading this?I know what they're saying, but who knows? How about your stuff?I think that also comes in handy for people who are you can't hear.So yeah, they might. Yeah, exactly. So I think it's adifferent story altogether if you're hard. But if you aren't and your eye sighthis, fine, it's like why? Yeah, it's it's a bit like why,but I do it sometimes. It's weird. Yeah, I prefer subsI know it can be a lot of work and it is annoying to sometimesthe when you get ready night outbviously you night outs haven't nonexistence for a year, but you know night out, you want to catch up on a bitof narcos, but you can't because you got to read. If your subtitlesjust think it's bad. It's just annoying. But it while it can be alittle of extra work to have to follow and read in English, Ifeel like it's really as a lot more immersive and really I feel like youget more out of it because you can kind of just kind of just seethe hand of the passion and it's did at the delivery of the script andits original language. It's meant to be, and I found that once. SometimesI do give dumb versions a quick listen and within like five minutes onthe Slat I can't do this and I just go back to suds because I'drather listen to it and it's it's in it's original audio language. Yeah,as much works work as it can be. Example like I gave, I rememberwatching money highest. I remember watching money I've in English first. Iwas like yeah, like teen minutes I was like this is not not slappingright now, I went back and changed it and this is a Spanish asat all I get into. So I just watch the same scene. Sofor me makes a big difference watching it stumped watching any foreign language show.So, HMM, anytime I read or sometimes any time I put subtitles,it's, example, if I'm watching something in French, which I understand anyway, but sometimes I just want to just clarify them. Understandings just like tenout of ten. So I'll be like, oh, yes, he said buteven so, sometimes even the subtitles are even correct. Yeah, yeah, anyway, do you got I read it. I'm like, he didn'tsay that, but okay, you do get that. You Yeah, Ithink for me I'll know what if I'm playing a video game, for example, when they have subtitles, I tend to keep him on, and that'susually because I can. I can read a lot faster than they can speak. So it means a lot of the time I can skip through that happento hear the entire audio clips, because sometimes it can be a bit longertime I send them. With Games sometimes, I know everyone's different, but withmyself I want to progress and get into the main parts of the gameexperience as soon as possible and yeah, sometimes sometimes just help. I hopewith did. Some you may have missed something they've said and you can't alwaysgo back so until you've pressed a or...

...x or whatever, what they saidis still on to screen. Say, it does help. Yeah, I'velI'm a really rubbish Gamer and that says I'm not doing a game it anyway. But happened to say a game. I thought the skill, all thetalking, I skips get skid. It's not. Yeah, you know,I'm so bad of that as well, because sometimes I see and then it'slike, hold on, what's happening? Why is he here? Where amI going again? And even with a lot of the games I have,the reason I haven't gone back to them just because I have no idea whatI'm doing anymore, because I didn't read anything and it just gets its skipped. But yeah, don't my subtitles is is a purse a very subjective yeah, right, yeah, I remember. I used to play the POKEMON pokemonyellow pokem on yellow on game boy. They do so much talking. Iwas let me go and just find go back to the shop, do Ihave to do? And the same, similar to what you said, Ijust forget what my task was. I just that's why I feel like Iused to take a lot longer to come to complete games back then, becauseI just wasn't following. I wasn't following the story. That's comb the lastreads. And they too talk a lot. I feel like it's the pokemon daysof bath and day. Yeah, I think with me, my attentionspam was so sure. It's like there's so many times when they started talkingand a completely los interest just on set off a game. I don't knowif I don't Pally, we know. But with an animal crossing, forexample. Oh, I hate if you show your games. Not My typeof game, so I'm not hate on it too much. Sorry. No, no, it's not a lot of improving in a car. I justlike I am. But just reading you guys get so excited when he's Daycame out. I'm like, this is like nintendogs. We just have tolook after your dog and you got a build a world like it's I don'tknow, I'm not that Gama. You know. What I'd say is thatyou have to with animal crossing specially, you have to play it to properlyunderstand it, because I remember my first animal crossing game was wild wild onthe UNINTENDO DS. Before then, the the concept of animal crossings felt abit foreign to me. It's like you're basically just doing real life stuff ina game. How I see it is it is literally that money is basicallya short to play the game. Yeah, I'm not touch touch like once,maybe a month now, if I can be bothered. Yeah, sothat's that's what it's like at first in it. So yeah, it'd beoff putting for a lot of people, but when you actually play it andthere's loads of things you can do and you can create your own you createyour own little island, putting from where you want to design your house,all these kind of things. It because and because of the fact, Ithink one of the main things is because of the fact you don't have toinvest a lot in the game all in one goal. You don't need toplay four, five, six hours a day. You can literally pay thirtyhours, I'm sorry, thirteen minutes a day, maybe four, five daysa week, and still get that same satisfaction that someone who's grinding out playingten hours at ten hours a day, it's only spent ten hours a day, would get. So it's quite fun. It's one of those it's one ofthose games where you kind of have to experience it to understand it.I don't think the pocket camp, the iphone version really did any justice.I know some people think it's similar to that, but that was a lotof like pay to progress where you were and in essence, what you coulddo as pay to skip time. So, like in pocket camp, I knowit takes like a certain amount of hours to build something and then youcould make it cook o if you bought this whatever. But with animal personis very consistent, very fun. Share your world, how people come over, invite people, they can leave gifts and all sorts. So it's quitefun. It's not for everyone. HMM, I mean, I yeah, Imean I bought it. Yeah, I boy, and I've been I'vebarely played it. When I played like ten minutes of it for I check, you'll be horrific. But yeah, this Niggas, still the turn.But yeah, onto the main topic. So well, we on it,not really. We were kind of, kind of. It was kind ofyeah, but essentially looks the way, guys. Yeah, a little segue. Do you guys believe that? Sorry, sorry, sorry, no, Ris. Do you guys believe that voice...

...actors and no more actors deserve thesame recognition all? Would you say they deserve the same respect for their ability. So we say normal actors. Just to clarify. Don't worry. Yeah, none. So we talked about live actually, like live action TV showsand movies, all the originals. Is that you're talking about? No,no, just generally, if you can compare both, and you can comparegenerally. So, for example, you could compare. I get what youmeans. Of example, if I'm watching desperate housewives, yeah, and I'mgo watching it in France, am I then trying to see due respects thevoice actress of even and Gloria or even ongoria herself? I mean that isthat is one question in itself. Okay, another question is so you could answerthat. Another question itself is voice actors generally and normal actors generally.So it could be you could compare people in blockbuster movies to people in BlockbusterGames and people in Niche Games to people in small TV shows. So wouldyou say that both are just as talented as each other? Do you thinkI probably would? I would probably because of friends. I think voice actually, as to you, it's still happen to do, even though you don'treally show you. I think, Mark Ye, you see facial expressions,etc. With the body language and stuff with when name to the role voiceacts needs, you have to do still do a lot of different voices etc. Problem really seldom role of Lake like animated character. You are as well. You can do you can do a voice acting for the me can soundreally planned, but you know you have to really put that. You stillhave to put a lot of big performance into that in that performance of doingthat character. Just trying to think some of here. Like, for example, Regina Queen, she's quite he's a really a voice actor. Regina King, she didn't do is okay, yeah, she did. Yeah, here yourally lely and she's done a few other thinks. She's done with fewervoice that voice actually roles for other stuff. But yeah, I'm thinking in theBruno see she's done amazing job there, but I think they said they deserveas much as much respect anyway. Even um in black pant for what'shis name? That was claul. What's his name again? Camember his name, but he's done. He's a brilliant voice actor as well. I'm justtrying to may even Google one second. I'm trying to find think what rolesI know he was a voice actor for trying to even look now, butso give you one second. I'm just trying to find this because I needto find what it was. I'm trying to think what voice acting roles hewas in. But no, you have I think the like I said,you do this, that they do deserve recognition. But come back to me. I want to find it. What rolls this guy was in? Okay, yeah, I mean for me it's I think they both deserve as muchrecognition as each other in terms of the the what they need. Do need, is the same sort of appreciation because, yeah, my thing with voice actorsis fair enough. They don't need to pull facial specials off for Harryout. So they do, though, in the studio. I mean,I mean they don't want is that they don't have to. So it's not. It's not something that's required when your voice acting. You don't know.Sorry, I was going to say is what I found out. You don't. What's his name? Is Name is and the circus was chlorine back Panapo, but he's also the way. He was a voice of I think it'sa voice of Gon them, you know, in Lord the Rings. Yeah,what you want? What was Lord of the Rings? He was avoice so he's R, he'sa means these counting. The count model of Golmwas based off of him to begin with. So so he was. That's thatwas more than a voice acting role. That was money. or Caesar aswell. Yeah, yeah, he but your Caesar is what you'll season, the value the apes. So he did CEGI. So was it?Yeah, it wasn't just what I mean. It counts. Definitely what for hisfar of his situation, it was more than they did some face capturing, and that's why you can see Golum has a resemblance. It's I getwhat you mean. I'm just trying to think. He was. Yes,so he was up, as he said, he was season. It's also supremelythe smoking the Star Wars sequels.

You know, just fus week Wakensand last year, though, it smoke. But yeah, he's an amazing thingsactor, even when you got even you've got mark Hammil as well.He's an amazing voice tactor now, but you see the thing with him asact because he's an actor, because these guys are say that these guys areactive to these guys are actors. Yeah, that's the thing. I think alot of them. I think that's the thing as well. I don'tthink that you have really yet. I'm not think a lot of people arejust voice acting. I can't we think of much, but I think alot of my actors and voice actors, but they probably he does get recognitionfor his walls. Yeah, I was just thinking that, as he fellsname, are ones that also accomplished actors as well. So they just didmulti talented amazing. They are very prolific and voice acting the scene, likeI said, mark camel and the memberinds, SSAR, etc. And Regina Kingas well. But then, but then not, as you said.I do agree with Chris saying that they was that deserve mother recognition anyway,because they really do sell the role and making. You do get invested insome of these animated characters as well, a lot due to voice act andas well. So I fully agree with Chris. I agree, I think. I think, for example, I think the start difference between those onesthat you named them some of the other ones one might be referring to isthat, example, Regina King, Mark Camels, they've all made. They'veall made their names through from acting, yeah, movies and previous not frombeing able to go and not from being as what you find is that peoplewho are, you know, predominantly voice actors don't really get that recursion andrecognition even in terms of their names. Yeah, yeah, very, veryI think they are like, for example, when it comes to anime, thereare voice actors where Sus. You hear like well, I had thisvoice the different things. Yeah, and then when you realize, and infor some when you kind of you kind of given like a nest or differentworks that they've been involved and you're like wow, they've voice dis character,this character, this character, then I thought that helps them maybe just becomeknown within their own communities and this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, becauseyou see them from all roles. Like Fusar was, who's Lucy's voice acting? What does he do? Or she is it? Yeah, yes,she isn't age. She yes'. She does have a comment, whatever charactershe does. Does a lot. Yes, always, one does a lot aswell. Even you can go and you can dis it goes into gamingas well. A lot of gaming voice actors as well. M fantastic roles, like quite creates his voice actor back in the in the two thousand andeighteen go the amazing voice actor really sold that new kind of more humble,say humble, more solemn creators in that game. As you said, asI'll say before as a Christal sayings, they does are the recognition as well, because they just, as I keep saying, you really become, youcan really become emotions attached to some of these characters, because the way,yeah, I specially when they change, like when it comes an America,like, Oh, hold on second, you know's not doing the voice thatthey used to be. I'm like you, you notice it? Yeah, Ido understand that. I do understand that voice acts as well, gosay with fame, because obviously they're not visually out there. You're not alwayslooking at, Oh, who paid this voice? Who did this? WhoDone? He did that? When you think of Zoro, you don't thinkthe Zara's voice. That's so. You think of Missari, the anime characterwith the green hair, sore swords. Yeah, the same boof. Youthink about his Straw Hoigh, you think about you sky, you think aboutis is going gun arms. You don't know about who's playing these characters andwhat it takes to play these characters. We know, I mean most ofus have watched voice hactors and action and you know that when they're performing it'salmost like they may as well be performing in live action. German they hadthe same facial expressions. No, because I feel like most of the goodones I've seen, they tend to they tend to when they're performing it's almostlike they are the character, not just putting on a voice. Yeah,I agree, partially because I've seen, for example, I've seen clips floatingaround on the socials of behind the scenes action of the voice actors actually deliveringtheir lines and yeah, cool. I always found it fascinates actually watching them, just actually see the person behind the...

...characters. Then I found, forexample, particular in Manger, a lot of the voice actors are very old. So not very old, but there are people sign age. So thekind of say that, yeah, I could see these these voice active laylofyin the live action. I don't think that. What? No, isthat what that's I got? That's what you meant? No, no,no, that's what I'm Feren to. I'm just talking would be the effortthat they put into voice acting is can can be almost as much as anormal actors putting into their acting. They may not be able to play thesame role. Obviously, with with if we have a old a middleaged womanplaying, I'm doing the voice of a young man, it's not really goingto work out. No, but a lot of the time, if youdo see the way these for example, a good example is creator, createsin in the God of war. So his voice actor not only does hedo the voice of Creatos, but he's actually the body model for Creatos inthat game. So a lot of the Times he's, you know, movingabout, some a lot most the sea. They did nothing. Yeah, Ithink I remember you. So. Yeah, so they're the voice actorsand they are also the the models that the characters are based off, andthey know that. They know that they can do this because when these charactersare delivering these speeches and delivering these moments, it's very, very expressive in bodylanguage and as a result of that, you're able to do it. We'veseen it in the last of US two. We've seen it in gameslike their stranding. Yeah, had the actor in them from what's his name, walking dead heart and his name he's in that game. Is that heshow I'm just understlack in my lack of knowledge and know and I was sickwalking dad. HMM, was now? I don't watching. Only seen very, very little walking dead myself. Yeah, he's got like anny Google it fromvice myself. Yeah, well, we's that. What's that? Thingis hard. You have to put across everything in Yourman read us. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's in there. Go, he's in the stranding.Yeah, and it's weird because his character model in this strending is himself. So it's not like a new designed character by Kojima's actually Norman readers playinga character in a game. It's weird by works. So it's kind oflike having actors in the game. We've seen it and in black ops wherewe had what's this guy's name, the one from house of cards that gottaken off o Kevin Space, Kevin Spacey. Kevin Spacey played a major role inblack ops three, I believe. So he was playing a character,but as Kevin Space. It's weird. So it's Kevin Space is character modelplaying another character. So saying an actor playing himself who was an actor.He's playing somebody else. But yeah, that that happens. are like someof the years and that like with Keyanu Reeves as well in silent from yeah, yeah, same thing. Ye, same thing as well. Yeah,I think there must be some form of I don't know if it's true,or there must be some kind of voice actual awards somewhere where those people arerecognized with their work. I think it's something that we would hear of.But, as you guys both said, that they really do make that differencein the portrayal of the characters that they're that they're playing in their roles.I remember watching the Disney movie soul over Christmas and I remember the main charactersname. I was just like, Oh, wasn't it? WHO's The pot?It was Jamie Fox, Jimmy Fox, but he's talented anyway. But Iwas just like wow, like telling the scary do all these axes andthings. Just gets back to what you guys raised earlier about how a lotof the movies watch, a lot of the movies do you watch, showa kind of paid by really good actors, but I feel like sometimes it doesn'talways work, like sometimes when those actors or famous people try to dovoice acting roles, it doesn't always translate well. Beyonct oh, yeah,the trader, and I was like Nope, the film by know how I've seenthe film. Voice acting wasn't great. I can't lie. It was asmell, it was no idea. It wasn't great. For me.Even had one and I heard, are you with me? Lions as likenot, this is that? Is this even another number one that was actuallyso someone who's actually a good actor who...

...had a really bad voice acting role. What's his name in the actor that plays try and anister? Oh,yeah, his name, piece are thank Ledge that? PC and Peter Drink. Yeah, it's yeah, so Peter dinklage in he played the I canremember what you call it, but the thing that accompanies you in destiny andhis far poor. Sorry, don't like a grim reaper. I heard you. It's the Passon your companies you wear and destiny the game, the video, yeah, after life, oh no, no, the game destiny reaper.There's like a little flying robot thing. I can remember someone, some peopleknow what it is, but it but he plays that in the firstdestiny game and there was so many complaints because of how disinterested is performance wasthat I think they even put they they changed the the voice or they gaveyou an option to change the voice. That's how bad it was and Iso who we know is a very, very good actor, but when itcame down to a voice, Hepti roll. Maybe it was just this instance,but it didn't turn out as good as you should have. Yeah,and even I remember, I think it was a couple of years ago,maybe early like twenty two thousand and ten, two two thousand and fifteen, Iremember Rihanna playing this voice, acting the role in a kids film andI remember just hearing just to slip up the trailer Carr in the tight ofthe film, and I was like this is just so false like this.What acting is it for Rihanna? And I know that at the time,you know when you're famous, because I'm sure there are loads of different projectsthat famous people like to have a go, try and try, and then,because they whoever they are, the studios. I'm just saying, okay, we'll have you on board, but it just doesn't necessary work. Sohopefully I don't want to hear any more voice acts and orso beyond, becausethat it took away from the it took away from liking a little bit me. Anyway, I don't come across as an actor to me. Yeah,from dream, dream girls. You did well. I haven't seen dream girls. Oh, I've seen a bits of it, but not enough. I'msorry, it's not mark it's not my kind of movie, but I gottawats dream girls. Yeah, I've Seen Rihanna a couple times in movies andshe's shocking. Yeah, it's not good. Jesus, things fancy and music.I'm the bee hive and the Navy don't come for four eyes. Yeah, don't wonder. I love beyonce musically, yea, and NA when she's singing, not acting, she's singing. I'm not designing either. Yeah,I don't know. Involved in that. One of the store and has alook. Definitely. Definitely. Actually, I made it. If I cutmyself out, are you doing video on? Did all yours? Go? Hearit, but yeah, I'll just cuts. Go ahead. No,you are not to say. When we kind of talk about voice actors,I think the type of voice actors are used to kind of full trace sadcharacters can also impact those those who have preferences over subs and dumped m Ithink it plays apart. You can just just the way something kind of soundto an individual person's ear can actually make them decide to say, I don'tlike the way, for example, a lot of people complain about go goKi's voice dress they didn't like it, so I'll give it that. Itd of the year is I can't watch dragon ball. So because the highpitched voice of Gakus acts doesn't make it doesn't make sense to them. Wasit preferred to watch in English? Hmm, I think that plays apart. Yeah, a lot of it boys down to what you used to do,and in the case of Drang Bull Z especially, I I've I've always,always had a preference for the English the English dub all the time, everysingle time. And even when I tried to watch super in Japanese when itfirst came out, it literally put me off the entire TV show. Itput me off the show. Till this day I've not seen it. SoI've not seen any of super because I really yeah, I watched it.Super was funny, so I watched it fine. But yeah, I getwhat you mean, because I figure even then you really recognize with grouper's character. For us it was the just that fun animation dub that the voice actorsare go through. If you do you except to it. They did suchan amazing job. I have my grapes...

...with Dragon Ball Z as a whole, but the whole voice thing and the slow start to the story just kindof sewing me off completely to point where I thought, yeah, you knowwhat, something that's right enough. Now get what you mean. I tried, I'm I don't like I've tried, but I think used because I dida go watching dragon war in English in the first place. So the firsttime I'll we heard it I was in my teens and I was like,what is this like? English? I like, I don't know who,I think it's comes. His name Krillian in it, I think, wherehe calls go gus, like go cool, and I was like yeah, itjust makes me just shrivel up. And I was like yeah, inJapanese, like right, no, no, no, no, it's just hereanother way. Even I'm the only dumb character that I don't mind.And draggon Boll is with Jesus, that's an I can tolerate. I couldtolerate it. The others it's just so awesome. Piccolo and the jets,I can I can deal with the others, but they even talk that offended thesame actor. Oh yeah, that makes sense, so I can.Yeah, isn't so bad. For Fair enough, I did love puff googas. Woe at to us. Cool, I was fine find not even hewas even with the courier's voice acting as smash propis. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, cool guys. I thought it's just the Americans that sometimes I'mlike carrying away in a d thing. You know, let me even saydon't for people voice. That the something. Even these fun voice actor the frindubs, actually a made. Some of them are actually made a voice acts. Even look at, for example, Dragon Wall Bridge, team four staff. They did they actually, if they're quite actually great voice act to thewar, actually, I think even for them. So you about team fullstart. I watched a lot of a bridge back in the day. Butthe thing is, especially with the American voices in Anime, is it feelslike it's really hard to put across seriousness. They just don't Sunday get that whenthis comedy, it works, works for comedy. But yeah, sodon't I agree about them. I dubbed Comedy can work very, very wellif you adapt the jokes. Well, obviously, for the most part youwant Japanese. You want a Japanese voice because it just kind of flows yeah, now, Christ, that's what on, because I know what yea. Butyeah, he gets to come on. You Guy used to come on thecollegion, right. Yeah, Oh, yeah, yea, and Nickelodeon,one of the yeah, and just like that, Chris is, shegot that spot on, like it. Just can't take it seriously, likeever. Ready see dramatic seems. Are Ego or you can hear is Yugi. Oh it's like this. It's I'm not meant to be laughing right now. Is that really serious? And you go over to the Japanese on you'relike, Oh's actually quite deep. You know, you get them says.It's just the tone away come across. It can come across is so different. Yeah, it's the way. It's the way anime is interpreted by alot of American voice actors. I think it's getting better. That's time isprogressing. As animals getting bigger in the West. is going to be better. If you watch, if you watch the older the older dubs, they'reliterally just getting any something, any to just come here. You want avoice acting Gig, I give you fifty quid. That's what it feels like, because it was so bad. I've seen some old old doves and theyare horrendous to a point where you think, why have they got this person dead? Fifty number those, those are visibly was that video game, andI think it was puzzle quest, where the guy who was in charge ofdoing the was change, of changing all the voices and all the translations fromJapanese to English, got his son and daughter to voice some of the charactersin the game and it is some of the worst voice, I say,you'll ever hear. It is so bad. Like you, I think all threeof US could legitimately do a better job, if that bad for ourselves. Yeah, and just last would ask you guys think that if British isif more British voices we use in voice acting, if it will be receivedas well as the American ones? I honestly think from what I've seen,British voices work a lot better at conveying certain emotions. So I find thatcomedy is a bit different. I think that American voices are generally a bitbetter doing comedy, whereas British voices are a bit more serious. And whenit comes to satire and like cool jokes, I think the British voice works well, but in terms of general fun...

...and General Lass, and especially forthat team demographic anime usually appeals to. The American voice is a little bitbetter for that. I so just imagine dragon ball with English voices and seeif it will. Guy Very serious. Jungle Z isn't serious enough to warrantlet me but geus voice is Kinda British and he's the friezes. One Freezercould work with a British accent. I think so when you look at that, because I think they change's voice. That against yeah, he did someof it. More you listen to the G as accent freezes accent. Thoseare two of the most serious characters in the TV show and I don't thinkthere's a coincidence that they both have British same. Oh yeah, yes,tilt way I talked about adds. Is I actually British sounding? Are theysounding? Yeah, always been a British sounding and so we shot and freesays they freezers. They did change. It wasn't his first back in thetwo fathers and they change the voice ups and then it is so is abit more because you can see it from like the jungle, super movies etc. You know the rest of his savants. The rest are like very Americanized Americanvoices. So, yeah, from what I remember anyway, I haven'tseen much of the super again, but should we can wrap it up thissuper I don't know if you, I mean, give it a chance here. It is not anything it it is for. Is this all right?For? It is to be fair. You know, she jngles. Justfinally, just watch it to laugh at him. Just beams, go burthat's right. Yeah, thanks, thanks for listening and guys, for anotherepisode of for is academia. So once again, buy from the cost.Remember to follow us on twitter, Youtube, twitch, allsoch hours. Now we'reon club how we gonna BE? Oh yes, we're on clubhouse now, so we may well run discussions about different topics, anything you want totalk about. This set us up. We've got our disco channel as well. We can come and discuss all things game and anime. But yeah,thanks for tuning in, and you got me myself follow up ONS pony throRiguez. You have crank star as well. I want to give him your socials. Follow me on everything, as crank star the loveliest still as well, feel free to you follow me on everything my most straight I will bethere, thanks to listening guys, and until until next time, take iteasy.

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