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Episode 47 · 11 months ago

What makes a game? || Episode 47

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

We're back with another episode! This time we take a trip down memory road and talk about our general gaming experiences but also talk about what makes a game. That could be what makes it good, bad and memorable!


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@Chrinkster @tudzdotexe @Abi_Mulan

#Games #Nintendo #AnimalCrossing #CallOfDuty

Hello and welcome back to episode forty seven of the fist academia podcast. We're going today by myself to its Abbey. Hello and Chris. Yeah, so I think just to start this episode off, we have some recent news topics to get into. So the first one being news about the intended switch pro so, the new newtend this which which would replace the current models, planful release in September, October. There's no date in this stweet but it says the announcement could be imminent ahead of e three. So e three years due June. Yeah, yeah, so that's like from the corner then. Anyone been considering the switch pro? I'm happy with my switch. I don't know what they're going to add that's going to make me want to buy it, but I wasn't sure the differce would be me. I assumed graphical enhancements, but I'm not sure. I don't care about stuff on that. Yeah, New York, what about you, Chris? Yeah, probably gonna but we've been hearing about switch pro every single year since the switch came out, to be honest. Okay, so you don't think it's coming up, will come out. It's one of those things where if you say enough, you're going to be right. Eventually there's going to have to be some sort of six SESSA and someone's going to try and claim they've been saying it since two thousand and seventeen. A way. Yeah, yeah, I think it will probably just have slightly better battery, probably a new graphics card so the graphics will work a bit better. It might help with some of the newer titles that are looking at bringing out, so breath of the world, to make sure Prim for those games could have a lot more graphical power needed to play, and I don't know if it's problem my help with it, but we'll stay mentually, I think from a basic standpoint is going to be slightly better graphics card and slightly better battery life. Massiparior, you just mentioned much you're praying for and I got really like upset they even knowing that's coming up. But anyway, leaving interested say that now, but I know I banged up, but I know no, just bring out one color that our lie gonna blome down just for that. So it's next piece of news is a tweet from Stephen to Tilo use. You work for Ka Tuck, Ka Tuck. You and it's basically the whole thread is basically some stats and playstation and this particularly tweet that stood out to me says that way more girls and women earned their recent consoles than was the case with the playstation one. So in the actual graphic it says the female proportion among consult ownership ps one it was eighteen percent and with appears four straight psfive, a junk to forty one percent, so nearly half. So yeah, I think the it's like common knowledge that women composed like roughly half of like gamers. But yeah, like they know what if I think it is because we just review were playing the PS one, but now we can afford to buy our own PS fours. That's just say. That's why that's that's a skidder that. I think for re Persson years, like growing up like my cousin's, they were for birthdays and Christmas Day we get consoles, but I wouldn't even know I played as well, because there's just the assumption that, well, we don't need to own one yourself, like it's not a girl's like toy or whatever. If you really want to, you can just fail your cousins. But I think as gaming has gotten more mainstream and I guess as like gaming, as like a space, like a fandom space, is more welcoming to him and like it's not a big deal for women to play games, just just like whatever. I think earlier would have been more a thing, like the whole girl game of thing, but now it's just just the Games. Yeah, so obviously that would increase ownership. But yeah, pots of the man because I mean, I mean, so what the stats says? It's go from the female proportion among console ownership going from eighteen percent to forty one percent. So for one percent of females on a video game console. I feel like it's less to do with gamers and more to do with the fact that consoles are there more of a utility device and they were before. So now it's not just a case of the PSFOUR being used for gaming. You can use it to what youtube videos, speak to friends, watch movies, listen to music, and because...

...of that there's more of a there's a easier justification for people to buy these consoles. Generally, I think the stats amongst females and males are both going to increase, but in terms of Gamers, I'm not sure. I feel like the amount of female gamers they were in the past is probably very understated. I reckon even in the nights and early two thousands there were a lot of female gamers. It's just a type of games and playing weren't really look bad terms, is true. It's true. So you remember when it first became like a talking point, people are saying that, oh, yeah, women make a half of gaming and everyone's like up, but look at the fine print. They all playing kind of a game. Is A game like? That's probably what had been in the past as well when they were looking at games. If we think of all, we're talking about big studio to APLA Games. Yeah, so that excludes like a whole bunch of people, mostly women, but also like a bunch of other people, I'm sure, from the statistics. But I think society as well has been a lot more accepting of girls playing games. Generally. We're in the past. It seems to be very well. I remember when I was growing up guys played games and girls played dose. That's true, but now everyone can do where they like. So it's true. Yeah, I think people who play games casually as well being included in the statistics as almost back up. Yeah, you better conclude us. Yeah, because back in the day I was like girl Gamer, I guess, but even like all my female friends as well, they would play games, but it's just like yeah, immediately extent that someone would consider a thing, but everyone around me played, even my parents played. There's so to me Gamer and like everyone else, it wasn't like a definition of Gamer expanded. So, yeah, now more people are included. Yeah, do you think there should there should be a distinction between people who play games like mobile casual games and people who play you a triple La Tles? I personally didn't because even if you're thinking about like the mist like in the most mainstream sense of the world that Games, I think of that gans an impact that this, I think, the majority of the play base or people playing on the ipads and on their phone. So I think to make that distinction is kind of like problematics on the way. I want to use but it's kind of like it's almost like a barrier, I guess, because like, even though Mario Kark came out on Irus and joid in it and all this other stuff that I was banging out. Yeah, so good. I think we got the distinction it opens up more games, even for people who are like console gamers as well. Like it's just like you can have it on multiple platforms. I think having the distinction there is just it doesn't serve anyone, in my opinion. Yeah, I agree. Then you got your candy crushes and the other like mobile games and angry buds and yeah, but that's great. Yeah, I think it's important to know games or mobile devices have evolved quite astronomically. So mobile game back in you know the N S, you know your snake. Your was a what's the other one with the expect alien one? The spaceship? Oh, yeah, good, was this space ship? It was a spaceship, and that I'm actum so anoid going to do. But this wasn't knock one. That's game slept. What's the game cords theme called, because I remember I forgot what model phone it was. They gave it like a note, not backstory, but they give a bit more like wasn't the face impacts? I think that that's it. There you go, your space impact, because I remember I forgot which model the phone it was. They give a bit more backstory. The bitagnist was called Geneva and stuff, and you just admitted me so much of metroid the radio kind of like trying the direction they wanted to take it into. But yeah, yeah, Games. So I go from those games to, you know, having games that are akin to like dark souls from mys. It's a major difference and I feel that people do struggle to cool, you know, like that bands. To me, that used to be remember that this is a person. No, no, it's a game. It was. Oh, what was the game? What it is, basically, like, what's that? That Nigerian game? What did IGINE game? I know, is the one the playing cards. No, no, it's the one with the holes. They're gonna have to elaborate. and to me, ban,...

...how this sounds so intrigued and timmy game. This one says Carla. Yeah, I think it's that SLA. Hang on, don't kill me. Oh, okay, I don't remember this game. It was on. It was also of the slightly later luckier not like thirty three thirteen, thirty three ten. Is that a late and Knockia? Yeah, they can return on with yeah, you're dating yourself. What you see? That's that's a lot that. No, I definitely would remember. Why should remember this game? By don't, because it says here it turns a gaming the new knock your thirty three and ten. It's preloaded before games, snake, to Pairs, to space, impact and been to me. Yeah, and so, yeah, I don't know. Remember. Yeah, I think I just avoided it. I just feel like that. That that one where you click random the one on your pc where you click random buttons and it will just explode. What was I caught again? My Super Superior. Yeah, that one trash. Until recently someone uploaded the tick Tock of how to play it and it was easier. It was like a mask game. So, yeah, yes, he's masks. No, wonder, I can do was acts to do it. So Doku, kind of that complex here. Isn't animal, it's not is it isn't at all. But there was no manual before and if there was I never kicks on it. So it just if the game wasn't suffer. You have to maybe these games. I saw the tild you. It did the question Mark Right. I've just in the title keeper bent to me. I remember right now. Yeah, I just I hopped and SKIPP and jumped finger out one fay, some snake please. He like every games like that. Games like chess on mobile devices. They're fine. Do you still considers video games like, for example, monopoly to meet? Any digital game is a video game? Yeah, I have a very broad personal definitionn't video games. I'm really considered it, but I guess so. Yeah, I find it, I kind of a bit more difficult to consider certain titles as video games. Would you call it digital board games essentially, like to me it's very like online poker, online poker, chess, online chess. You're using a digital platform to play these games. But I guess under board definition anything that's played over digital platform becomes a video game. But if you were to someone was to ask for a video game or they wanted to play a video game, you default to certain types of games. You wouldn't give someone chess pro on the WII, you know, I mean honestly, really ends if like the has like the average person, just don't like the average twenty year old if they were to ask for a game for their birthday. If you get the chess one hundred and one on the NI Senda, we you're an evil person. No, but if I know don't know what they if I know what they like and it's chest but you don't know what they like. When you know what they like, I'm spending forty fifty pounds on a game. Games are too expensive. I'll get them. Make it card like Amazon Gift Card. If you need by a game with that Gift Card, that's your business. I'm empty. Pass assumed I liked FEFA. I would be pissed just because I play games. No, like I would rubber if I don't know you. You See, this is the thing. So like if I didn't know, what if you also recommend a game to someone who's never played games before? What game would you recommend? That's the difficult that. It's like son, who's what's give back into reading? What book could you give them? This is too broad, and let's just tell me. No one could. I just got into gaming and every game people have been suggesting to me, I couldn't get into record breath of the world, and that was just by chance. I was just like something I randomly go into. Me See that that's my auld game. Is Game? Yeah, that's my first proper game. Is My first proper game that I actually completed from beginning to the end. The boys high, but the boy sky. That's like a it's like a game as a chiple late title, socially, as a proper video game, ship game. The only when I was younger I had the PSP, and I mean I played on it, but I just played crash crash on it and that's it. I don't really care, like it wasn't. I wasn't into the story of any game, but I ever played up until of the world. Before that I'll just play games that didn't end or games that I don't know, crush band, who head in story, if it even does have a story. I just played a little bowling with the bowling bi little bowling. I didn't care for it, you know.

I just played. Oh, I played need for speed and stuff like that. So I wasn't ever into the story part of the game until breadth of the world. So if you've never gained before, you actually don't know what you like until you try games that you can suggested to someone, until you actually stop playing. Because I wouldn't have ever known that I would be here right now playing breath of the world, so to I never thought I'd play an FPS. Ever, I tried coology when it first came out at the first, I think the first ever coology. I tried it. I hated it so much. Yeah, pre modern warfare mode. It's free. Is that not the same thing? I don't know, is not the same thing? COOLOG existed way before modern warfare. Wow, I don't know that. So modern warfare then, but you've got that Coolo duty one, two, big red one three. Then cooler duty for is actually a modern warfare. Oh, that lot of pus three? Yeah, cool of duty for modelstone. I played then. I don't know that those they were different, but that's the one. I played modern warfare three on p three and I hated it so much and that was I think that was the last time I actually played any kind of game because that put me off gaming so much. I wasn't even a game man. That put me off. So I stopped playing up until I got my switch and then, oay, I played Mario or justly, first could get into it, but then first, at first. No, but at first I can to get into it. Then I played breath of the world, loved it so much that when I went back to Mario I actually enjoyed it and I enjoyed it for what it was and I could play possibly. So it is because it's like if you're not if you have to try things out first, see what you like, and it might not take. It might not take the first or second time. If you keep going, you I believe that, ever, there's a game out there for everyone. That's why I believe I game out there for everyone to enjoy, even if it's kind of crush. It is there is a game out there for you to enjoy. So that's my so yeah, I personally don't think you can suggest a game to someone that's never played a game before, because it just had me thinking about like I'm a going now. I was just saying like because obviously I've been gaming since childhood and like you by proxy, because my cousins are every console. Don't put me anything up. Actually, my dad passed me down his ps one. That's the first comes I own for myself, and I had a game boy color and my cousin it wy anymore because they played basically everything, but they were like there. They were partial to like fighting games and stuff, and I paid it casually with them, but never like if they were around, I wouldn't play fighting game. was just a bonding thing with my cousin's the games I focused on because I was like a proper book worm, like used to just read, listen, like stories and stuff, like they have like toys and stuff. I just like books and stuff. So the Games that, like you, were had to basically read and follow a story, like the story was important. There isn't. The Games are gravitated towards. So like Pokemon, obviously is the voice, acting and stuff from even back then. You have to know how to read. So that Pokemon Zourda was the first year APG. I paid fire and bloom. There's kind of take of stends, not six sense lazing some wood, then take a stands. So there's the kind of games I gravitate towards, and this is the games I still enjoy, and that's this is come from someone who liked played like everything, because just side friends got, my cousins got every like game, every console, but I still found like my niche and I saw one has been plays its childhood. So I think someone who's a eddying adult before they established like hobbies and interest have to know what they're into and other things before we could even think about suggesting a game or dot. Your whisting your money gives you really spending money. But if someone's really into chests and they give a shit about other games, you could buy them chess on the WII and they would feel like chesting on the switch. Probably probably not what you think, because first of all we online is gone. Okay, there's this, there's a chest. Being on the switch says everything really started to bring shouble where onto the switch you see these on license piece of Shit Games. They'll be something. Yeah, I would. I feel like most people who play chess would probably paid chess online ready, maybe just as a bad example then, because it's a bit for free. Yeah, maybe monopolies are better idea. So used to pay monopoly with like their family and stuff. Yeah, but they appreciate monopoly on switch. Yeah, they could do. Yeah, nothing sac because, like, essentially, for me, if someone is interested in chess, then I might give them a tire or that is, you know, mostly based on strategy, maybe simple rules and some sort of strategic game where there's no story line and it's just about trying to outwit your opponent. Hmm, could be simple that puzzle quest or Dr Mario or something among those lines. That's true, because I hate puttle games, but obvious I love pots of MS specially. I Love Puzzle Games. Wasn't even a possibly. It is to me.

The fuck. That's I like everything growing up, literally everything, every single type of good game. I didn't hate a game probably until I was about thirteen or something. Actually know that you s a smell with anime. Honestly, that's me. Hate the enemy, untols a builder, and then I actually started having taste. That's it. Some people in forest can't relate, but that's interesting. Important, though, because obviously I played everything, but I just preferred the story based Games, the RPG's, but not. I'm an adult, like I will use to play like FIFA, and yeah, it's not pretty prevnations like in the gaming away it. Yeah, it is. If used to play those games, if used to play first person shooters. I've been bullied into war zing, but we'll see the knock it they look at yet. But back then everything like ninety seven was my banged out for ninety seven, like even if those one around. I played this. I paid the single player mode. I enjoyed that game so much, but you couldn't pay me to play for you for nowadays. So I don't know what happened last year. I love workout kings. I love GRANTURISMO, like I can't play the game. I've played a lot of fighting games actually when I was dounbern. I don't think I'll get into them anymore. I used to have taken and whist played my cousins and my brother street fire. I used to love need for speed. There was another one who look racing game. That was popular back then, I remember. But yeah, I loved a lot of racing games and and yeah, I couldn't, I don't know if that to get into them at this age. The fighting games. The thing is I feel like maybe just it's probably cap there's just my I think when you're in like the game, like space, you see the bad size to it. I'm just kind of like, how do you casually play a fighting game in this day and age? Everyone's starting to be everyone's playing to be good, competing. Yeah, I don't have time for that. Like the last game I played, for last fighting game I played and I was just like I'm just having fun with this, was third strike. It's just me and my cousin, but I think now I wouldn't buy a street fire because like he's going to play with me. Everyone's so good a quick could just give her good times. Most most games are like that. Now there's our most multiplayer games. It's real. Yeah, I guess it depends on how competitive you're, how competitive you want to be. Some people like to play good just to play, and that's completely fine. I'm very big on competent competition. Yeah, we know, give me it. I literally like, if I know that there's a game that I can computing, I can compete in, it makes me want to play more so I can get better at it and don't put me off. Also got me off says I'm pussy, that I black. You have to break me in. Then you believe? All the games I started playing with because people were like you can't play. I was like no, wait for me, wait, wait, wait, me. Even when I when I see fighter, I've always loved to fight. I played it and obviously when I was special fight to a Supernintendo, I was okay with my cousin. So it's just me and him basically, and it was still really fun. I still really enjoyed it. Well, she's as you get older, others it becomes an online component and stuff. So from sue fighter to all the Arthur Games or the yes games or the tools. Almost all fighting games up until set fighter for, I believe, or sorry, lessen nor suspers, but the two five. Up until she fight a for, I was mediocre, like I was not good, and then once she fight happened, I wasn't that great good. You know I was. I wasn't. But my best for came around and it came out and I had an xorree hundred and sixty and I remember going into college and people be saying, Oh, you get set fire. Oh yeah, if you're so good at's play, and I remember getting beat once. I was like, okay, story, be everyone's ass and that's why I did. But I think as I was paid to fight for, she fight for was it was an interest in time because even on the even on Youtube, they had massive community is. It was always quite friendly. You had the extra excellent adventures with GOUTEX and Micross, so there was always that interesting content. So use, always use, always trying to get really good. You always have competitions to look forward to. Your always learning stuff from the top players that you could use in your own game. And Yeah, I...

...just found it really fun. I think since then, so since you fight for came out, which was in two thousand and seven, I think. I think it's at two thousand and seven. Yeah, so since then I've just I've always been into shoot fight, PSTRY, fire, watching matches and all that, and I've always had the competition aspect. I do play other games just for just to chill from time to time. Usually usually chipple intend entitles you super mario or they see your breath of the wild. But for the most part I do really enjoy the compete and the competition of art really and I love that. The history, though, like your journey, you're the trigger I used. Literally, I told you this all time. It's so funny. I placed you super nice rose melee every single day for about five years. Wow. Yeah, literally, every day after school my friends will come straight to my house and we just play like might only be like a five games of them slush roads, but we're all compete in amongst each other. It was only that for five of us were a secondary school in time. So you know, nobody doesn't work. It is yeah, company. That is the problem. The problem becomes when your competition pool gets bigger. I mean you're starting to compete with guys you don't know and all sorts and there's more at stake in its competitions. And Yeah, how does that not sound stressful? What is really about that? Okay, I think it's a funny when you people trying to get stressful, I ref get stressed out. You See, Dude, come to me about I'm gonna intentially put myself in a situation like if you bully me into or have you know that, insult me and be okay, wait, but other than that, no, that's not a feeling to me at all. But you know, it's a massive contrast between certain types of games, because the thing that's always appealed to me with not just street fighter but war zone love of fighting games, is that every game you go into you don't have any advantages. The only thing you have is your skill. So if you're good, you'll be able to be hang if not, you'll lose, whereas I remember, playing will get them my moes back in the day, where people just accumulate strength and wealth and Blah, Blah Blah to a point where they're just clicking the button and winning fight. So it sounds like a bit ways. Is that? Geez, if I fight the bus and I get my house beat the problem. I'll go back to the dungeon, I grind and grind and then when I'm level eighty I can try to get my life. One thing about games like GLPG's I when I was playing bath of the world, I didn't grind. I didn't like the grinding bit. I just wanted to do everything with the minimum. You saw when I was playing, when I was facing the first divine beast, I had sticks and apples, raw food in my inventory and I was just ready. I was like no, I'm doing it because I don't know what it is about. I mean after I've done it, after be done, is when I went back to the story and actually started doing the sad quest and whatnot. But like, for some reason the whole grinding aspect or some games, I'm decided to take me to the boss straight away, that we've let me do the minimum, the minimum I can do to get to the boss. I'll fight it and once I've completed it, then I'll go back and start like collecting shit and or not. I'm just I'm just not patient to go for everything because it would hold. I was always I was, I'm like you. I was always a person on pokemon who would fight the JIM leaders under prepared and struggle my way through rather than grinding for leveling a pull my pokemon to point where just be one shot in all the pokemon. Yeah, I would hate that. I think I like the tedium of grinding there, because really weird, like you know, if you'd like a let being, it's like me, this is we weird. That like being. I can assembly line and then like this is what your thing, you have to do the next four hours. It's like that. So cute. It's gonna grinding. If I just like grinding level up now, like I see my experience, it's like it's like satisfying for me and I can do it. that OK, I've loved up so much. When I go back to that boss, that Clyde me like these and I see their power, that like I think that's what that's it is for me. Like I completely understand people being like no, I hate grinding because like, yeah, on paper it's a sound fine, but to me it's even for our pgs. You know, I do everything. Even with Statoon, I was playing Betune, like I was banging out spatune. Only just recently that reached...

...extract that I find out what how the clothes work, that you can actually change your clothes to increase your you know, like skills? I didn't know. And War Zone, for example, I know you can Max out weapons and get additional things. Someone someone say out for me one time and I started using that same weapon for out all my games I've been playing. So it's like I do, if everything, I just I just if I I just go into the match, I'll go into the quest or whatever story. I'll just play it, play player and when I actually play hundreds of hours of it, then I'll go back and actually start learning about the game proper. But yeah, I flavorite games wrong or on hard mode intentionally. I guess that. You know, you made a good point about war zone, because in war zone, for example, you can make load doubts right. So, no doubt, you level up certain weapons and you can unlock attachments and then you can use them to to, you know, kill other players. Once paid for your load doubt and quit it. It's that way. Is that what that is? You people took what customized. Didn't know what you were talking about, as I did the box with the stuff. Yeah, that's your what it was on cost mys. Yeah, so the load doubt is usually it's one of the most important things to get quickly in the game because you can get you get your perks from it and you get your own weapons from otherwise you're using the floor loop that you find in the boxes and stuff, which is never as good as what you rate. It's never as good. So you always struggle with your I'm dying. Yeah, other things, but the way it's really important. You could, you could do much better with a load out when you do, and then with the perks, for example, Park that you could have ghosts so you're not on the radar, you can have the track, you can have all sorts trucker. So the thing I initially had a problem with with war zone was the fact that in the previous battle Ryl for call of duty blackout, there was no load doubt. Yeah, everything was grounded, everything was ground for. What you do is you find attachments and create your weapon. So you might find an AK forty seven. Then you've got to find a red dot site and they got to find extended mags imaging what you're trying to fight for your life. Yeah, it sounds a lot more toerious, but the thing is it means that there's a lot more skill involved because you have to work with what you find, rather than I probably the better about them and then having the best guns and whatever. Yeah, it's playing the least. I mean, I see you, but like, probably would have done better with that, because I don't have to customize any I've only customized to of my load doubts and I was someone else doing it for me because I didn't understand shit, but because I always preferred the ground new. That's why I play rebuff a lot because, yeah, we both doesn't it doesn't really matter if you get load out as much you I've killed people as they're in their look getting the load out. It's fine, fying just put their load down and then it's a team where. I'm not sorry, but yeah, that's why I rebirth is sick, because I don't have you think. Why don't you prefer a rebirth to the regular wars? I'm sorter games because it pisses me off when you're you spend like ten minutes getting them as much money as possible. You go your load at all, you know you're already and then one team just find you somewhere and then you die. The map is smaller as well, and I still can't get adjusted to like seeing people and free laches. When you first start playing, you could see anyone. Could you see anyone's so hard until they shot me. That's when I saw our people. Away is they're shooting me from. I don't know how you know you that where they're shooting you from, because I really couldn't tell. But we rebuff, the map is smaller, so you can always tell where someone's shooting from. And and then as well, some of the Games you have the rebuff. No, there's the resurgence where you don't get to come back. It's the straight to the be like you die. It's the same as Bout Ray. I bought in the same map, but rebuff you get to keep coming back for a certain period of time. So it's okay. Enjoyable like this. Too much at stake, and plus I pay. I usually pay by myself or would like one other person, so it's not as fun and I never turn my voice chat. So with our reale, I feel like you need to have a full on squad to play and enjoy it. So that's my opinion. Let's give me back next time, because you had me just running around at the head this chicken. I got your regen the battle around. Look, crackheads, I'm like the opposite. I mean I want everything to be at the most difficult it can possibly be. Me, I'm not that edgy, but when I get good I don't mind, and I actually get good, I don't mind up getting good now, for I suppose bring my gun. I feel like there's a there's a great sense of danger when you're playing the normal battle rayal mode. Yeah, that's true, and I quite like that aspect of it, where's it's a lot more do or day with rebirth,...

...when you know you can come back die and doesn't seem such a big deal, whereas that's true in water and it feels like you've really got to try and protect yourself because you can go from being alive to spectate in the game in a minute literally. So you've really got to take care of how you play. You got to be more aware of the weapons you've got, how you move. You can't just do crazy things. The map is bigger. So, example, if you're winning out of a hundred and fifty people, is that a really big deal you is? Yeah, that sets fine. I remember the first time I want a solo game. My heart was literally just being out of my check like it does get. Other people don't realize how how crazy it gets, like the anxactly press for fun, as I have a nightmares. Are you crazy? When I first start playing, I said, haven't that man as about war zone, like you, people want in this for me as well, I was generalous is it would in this game. And then really, people come it's anxiety makes to you feel good. After us, though, I haven't understand enough anxiety. It's not. Trust me, I'm on the same book. But like Guy Anxiety to add nice fying. Trust me, when you actually can be something, the first winning your first few, like getting your first kill, all of these things actually like make you feel really I can't understand that. Well that, for example, when you like wipe a squad and you feel like you're there, your heart is being out of your chest every moment. You're trying to think and control your feelings at the same time. Well, trying to kill a whole team and the whole teams after you and they chasing you relentlessly. It's crazy man's feeling about. Good for you, but it's but it's fun. That I've become a toxic gamer because of it. They're like come, I've really become a toxic I've Beau the game. I'm always shouting down the phone, then the voice chat or discord or whatever, and it's just ways is fun. Like, I'm glad I got into it. I never would have thought this time last night that it over a year ago. If you told me I was playing will zone, I'll bid it school zone. I'll call you a fucking Lieart, like I would never thought I'd be into that. But if I can relate, seeing but right now is now. It reminds me of like how I was when you were like nine, not to do you have it. You you have a good could you have people that can actually play with you? I've play by myself at first. Well, I played one of a person, but mostly I played by myself. So I was, I was, I was, I wanted to drop it so much it and only recently start playing with other people and it's much it's way. It's way beat. The experience of playing the full squad is way better than playing without one or two other people. Know what. It depends on the squad because, for example, like us, I play with it. Not even that. I believe a bunch of guys right well, good at the game, but sometimes it gets toxic. And by toxic, how mean you thought competing with one you want that, where your compete for kills number one, number two. Let's say everyone's dead, never spectating you. There's so much pressure, oh, it's true, so much pressure on you to do the right things. You can't make a singleness, and it looks like how's going to be getting on. See you think, when they get off? When they when they're dead, type where they get off? No, you can't help it, because everyone can watch you and watching your screen back what you're doing. Day did I'm alive, like I get it. I get it. It's not. If it was, like you're in the worst position in the person who's allowed. Oh yeah, I would probably the dead one spectate and in the live one hundred people spectating you. Honestly, everything starts going wrong. YEA, by cancel yourself shooting. It's just me. My friends are calling your body. Exactly. This is why I go for the most want to contract. I just die and die. At least you understand why I died. I've got a group chat, right, and half of the videos in there. I just of other people messing up. Now this is the thing. I wouldn't want to be in that environment of that. Luckily, I play with people that are really cool. So that's me. I'm crying and I've ruined it for everyone. I guess, I guess, I guess when you get into it it can be fun, because I could see myself being in that and that first hating it, but then loving the fact that people pushing you. So I get it, because that's how I got to Spetune. You guys are toxic. Is Fuck to me. When I first started, I was on level one with glicked. We fucking drifting joy cards and you guys bullying me like money. decided to do a...

...four us is one in the game I've never played. Let's go bring this up place, and he still attacks us. I'm like, I've never played this before, which, well, man, you played that his best against me, newbies. Actually, yeah, yeah, that's just so quick. One Up, guys, and you may see sick you want playing harder than when he was an our team. Like yes, he was, and it made me a better player and I did, I did appreciate that. So I can see how stuff like that would piss my first but I can get addicted to shit at that like I would. Instead of leaving the toxic environment, I'll going deeper so that when your mom beats you that this is for your own good, like exact me later. Well, you like me, and you do, and you're dressing like Oh, not a bad fine, oh my God. For days. Actually do miss playing like single player. I Miss, you know what, I missed the age where you just turn on the game and play game by yourself offline, enjoyed the game and then get back to whatever you're doing. I really missed those days. Now it's like achievements, I really that's how it started it. Yeah, yeah, what you know? How many trophies? If you go fucking trophies, I don't you going a line. If you done this, if you done that, you complete this. It's just like I remember playing games like seam hospital, age of Empires, just loads of that, PC games, single pre PC games back in the day, and just having a good time with it and leaving it there. But now it's like, well, how good are you? You don't you're not better than me. Okay, that's such a good point because, like even with like animal crossing, New Horizons and we're crossing. Is that the antifasis to that whole like kind of like philosophy of the getting good at a game. You pick it up, you tend to your plants, you pay off your more gage, you see how to keep animal villages and he off the game and you do something else so you can feel like another game. It's just something quick, like tending to a bond's eye. Cheat a little bit each day and then you see like the progression at yes, yes, still, and they are still anxiety exactly. That's a good point, because they community think about what made playing new harassing so stressful is fucking animal crossing. And the thing is in the in the absence of like actual EC trophies or like achievement handing in the game, you've got like social media, everyone said, sharing pictures of the amazing islands that look like, and you make yours look like shit in comparison. And it's probably you're not playing the same time, playing too meet. where? Where did you get this code for this road pattern from? Send me the concess so I can make my in in the end in duck. I hate that. terriform me was a thing before terror forming. I was so happy, but I wish you could opting, opt out. I was like, Oh, this is amazing. Had A little, you know, I could. When she start terror for me, it's that there's no there's never any possibilities. How many times have I destroyed my island? How many times? How many times a my village has been homeless? How many times, like I I miss I missed without terror forming. I miss going back to just like trying to find what villages you want your island and traveling, Oh my God, the way and crossing got toxic. Yeah, because I would wait so addicted to it. It went from addiction to like, Nope, this is so bad for me. I need to stop saying and need stopped. That was it was too much. I couldn't do it, like I was at every day. I have to go back. What new eyes? I had millions while was it on. I was on the stops, on to stop market, like trading. Fust. This one really turnips. I was like anxiety. Any time a side time traveling, oh my God, that was it, and that was like. That was it. That was it. I was like this is too much, this is too much for me, like I couldn't never again. That was a good point about the being endless possibilities. That leading to stress, because you look at a game like butter the world, which is so expensive, but I think they put enough constraints on it. Whether it's because of the technical constraints, like this is how much they could do with the game in the system, and maybe like specific design choices. HMM, but I think it's they got a good balance between how much expiration you could do and like not putting too much pressure on like just half why you could go with Animal Cross new horizons. It seems like they just dashed out of the window because of Terre. For me, you could literally make your island look like anything you want, because people can make their impatterns. Yeah, and I think it's just too, too much people. They should put some, if they're more constraints on it. I didn't think people would develt burnt out, because that's what happened. People were paying this game for hundreds of hours and then they just stopped abruptly. I' a village, is what ugly they were getting on Kays why did Raymond never visit my...

...fucking island? Well, I wasn't when I gave up this game. That's when Max all me as decided to go. I was so pissed off as I think play this should happened three months ago, please, like animal animal crossing was just toxic. And the worst one is before I came across the cave out, others wore like other fucking you guys play this game like. I wish I could find my tweets about. How the hell can you guys enjoy this kind of game? I'm never buy animal crossing. Such your name with animal crosses, and then the procession and the difference, and look down happened. If wasn't a lot that, I would have never gotten. It looks that happened. I was that I might as well and I go and it was amazing. At first. I can't when I'm cross was good. It was very, very sad. I was addicted and then it just got literally before you're not terrif for me it was the most. Is it the only pocket of peace I had in the first Oh my God, yes, actually, yes, that like it was. That was it. That was those in my lands flat. It made you feel like I was outside. Okay, that's what you call ten minutes. You literally wake up in a Te thirty minutes. I did is I don't know how you could start again, say minutes, and to drop it. Literally. It's literally. I think I first played. When I first played it, I paid it for like a four hours or something like. I couldn't put it down because, just like you keep telling you to do things like okay, I'm doing it, anxiety of what I was gonna have to do, because, I mean, I spent a lot of time on it. Wild world while stuff DS. Yeah, that's been a lot of time on the remember time traveling and doing all that stuff. Oh, I didn't time traveling. Wild as. She's scared of Mr Resee. So they were moved. Mr Ressee, they should have kept him in the game. Maybe you can easing the different. He yelled at you for like twenty real life minutes if you time travel, but for time traveling you're just move away. You're but I did be everyone who reads Mr said you would yell like you in twenty, like Lelife minutes. Yeah, that's scary. took out. That's because Mr Ressetti was scaring younger children. So do you re moved it from the game. But then it's happened to the adults playing. They got burnt out from the day job and they got burnt out animal question minute clock out of work, like Mr Recit MSTER is it? Mr Assadi Not that scary? I'm glad he wasn't in it. It was quite scary, to be honest, because I bang that knee leaf. That was the one right before you her eyes. And so the three D yeah, even now, if I tell my figures, Sho could just go in on my island and still feel like that kind new leave sounds se quality. It was so nice. You could get a little train station by the fact you can. You you can interact with certain item. I'm pres say you know what I talk with this shit about new horizons. If you'd give us risters cafe or the observatory, make a look at the like stars, and I might keep it again. I'm like, yeah, you know, a lot of updates for animal crossing. Most Shit like they were very crap. It's just seasonal shit. Like okay, now that this I time traveled already, I've been in October when it was spring. So now now, what are you gonna give me? Like everything was so big and the fucking ugly Easter Bunny. Oh my God, but trade is the season and I'm crossing so much. It was eggs coming out my bibles. Mate that I was. I was, but how many eggs? Those eggs? And all the furniture was ugly. Every single piece of furniture that came out of that that season was so ugly. The best part of our bunny day where people make complaining on to Earth. That was funny. Funny Day was so bad. It means so with the comic strip about the bunny date, the bunny, the Easter Buddy, about how he's protestingly happy. Then when bunny days over, coach infested studio apartment and just crying, it is instantly doors and everyone preach is like me, feel sorry for this fucking bunny. It's not working. But Bunny Day now he was scary. How he literally looks, really look like a syclage. Do you like when you go up to him and he starts hopping? If you turn your back on him, he starts that looking really sad and dejected. Did you ever know that? No, I didn't know. What have scared me? Whoever's anything this episode, I will send you the clip on Youtube. You go up to the Easter Bunny. He starts something, you know in does his little like rise. I can turn you away from him and will go from him your back turned. He does like a little sign. Looks so sad and deject. He reminds me of that clown from American horror story, that the really scary one was, like you know that clowns in America really scary, like you know it. So he reminds me. He reminds me of he reminds me of that, like maybe they should make clowns bunnies now, like because they're scary the fuck. He was scary as hell. I'm done when him cross. If I they need to get if they give give us Bruceton, will think about it. Yeah, maybe I get my little coffee and sit on the bench in the leaf. That was fun. I can see me getting back on life. They do, bringing a calf O, burrus and whatever. He was base and I think commits to it. It's like...

I'd never going to give us Swallowuigi and slash fathers. So just because you can ask for it, we're not going to do it. What is NTENDO's problem? Like why don't you like this Sun Right? It's sucker. Right that. Why do you hate us? Sorry, but suck, I was. He's like there's he's like them. He's like them, and the club that throwed on is the end of the work is come before. It's all right. Take that. They also paying. Ever again, especially the thing you want to ask me for it. I'll give you this and you'll be happy with it. Right, UPS, Na man, this toxic relationship you guys haven't been something. I love Nintendo. I'm sorry, it's the only like. I don't think the competitive kind of like anxiety. You didn't end it. And this funny, even though I was talking about all, the last fighting game I played and just enjoy just what it was was third strike. That's a lie, because I played like every smash for the game as come out. But it even crossed my mind to increase much mothers in the fighting game category. And I think it is because I never treat it that way. Yeah, so is it, but I never treated it that way. Yeah, just funny. It's it's a combatant. Is this combat? It also feels like a party game in one aspect, because there's so many different elements to it, and then I'm there's a thing going on online like, I guess, fighting game. Elitists, if that's the correct term of saying that you can't include smash mothers with the likes of Teken and street fire Tart. It's a party game, but I didn't know how like facetious people were being. Like where they being for Real, like, N special, this is a party game. There's a variable call a racing game, or by game, in my opinion, well, it's not the I grind to resume, but it's still people falls out by it's you're racing. It's more fun. I wouldn't. I wouldn't play for that. But I played my recod I bang my I played Ma recot on my own, like Oh, yeah, absolutely all the time, like that's why I do. But many fors are or whatever it's called. I'm like calling it the right word. I don't know what you're saying, girl, I don't know. That game is the one that that guy we foll onto. It has like the cereal. Oh, grand grant isn't a GT is. fors are the there's there's loads, there's one that makes forces. When I'm thinking about those of myst games in that kind of like niche, but like a proper basing. N theorism. There's another one, the other one. Your talk about this light different. I huntred name because even with a you need for speed. Grant to his Mani force are even if space this kind of games. I would play them. But having guys ever played simulating games, like train simulators and place I've read shack for that episode. I used to bang out. There was one game actually when I was like I think, yes, seven, maybe, and I think it was on a car. Remember what one was? It was even pers three is appears too, and it was like an airplane simulating game. Not I play and actually helicopter, one of those army helicopters, and I don't know why I was so addicted to this game, because what I was doing, I can't remember. It was even was on a playstation and it was even a pst. What ps two or pis three probably is. Oh, it did beginning the day. I'm not sure, but like it was like yeah, so it just like a helicopter. I think it was a helicopter. It was some kind of vehicle in the air right, and I would just play it for hours. I would just be playing it. I would be lifting the out a plane or or helicopter and then just bring it down. And I don't know how I was so addicted to it, but it was really, really addicting. I don't get why. I have seen other people playing that train simulators and I don't see what the appeal is until you actually stop paying it and it's really addictive, like I don't know what what is monic. There is a messive appeal because, yeah, they make these games. So there was close to the real activity as possible driving. So I remember there was a train simulator when I went to Japan and you literally have to go. It was in the arcade. You Lily have to sit in like a like a train carriage. That sounds so fine. Everything there and it was ace combat. It was. That sounds so fun. They're like like a genuine memory. Actually like a pin fighting game. Usually, oh, I don't know, I didn't play the fighting people just was just flying around in it. Yeah, I was just lying around. I don't remember the combat bit. I don't know. Yeah, it's really fun because I'm playing that as well. It's a really fun game because you feel like you have the sky under your control. You can go anywhere. It reminds me of how I was. I was a big fan of just driving around in GTF. Yes, I never, I never did anything stories, or maybe I did that one or two, but I never ever complete DT. I just race this drive roun. I just drove around. I did a bit where you would like, you where you just...

...obeyed the laws and whatnot, but then other times I'll just be racing, running people over, making sure the piece are chasing me. Yeah, look at I try all like how just recent game to me, like or not long can I out round the police? And then the music as well in the radio. The radio stations bag bad. The MCA came to ruin a but know the DT for me, I know it wasn't a story game to me. It was just it was just how driving round. Ever done a mission in my life in any GID. No, I remember when I was learning to drive. I'm friends like I just pay Guta. Are you joking? Nice to me. If I was the people involved like consulted for the people who do the driving tests. Whatever, I would like just make it like it's a pup vigger game, like you know. The know the what's the test called? One? We do action test. There has a test yeah, you should put like a little dashboard down on the screen. They have this things like why it would be better drivers who game a fight it properly, like I can. Yeah, there's real benefits to like game a fine with this shit. That's necessary. Driving Test Game is that? It then like a driving test similar I buy it, like watch you possible has a test in the first going extime has a test. Your I mean I passed to has a test as the questions, but you can game a fight that as well if you wanted to. I was. Yeah, it's easy, and I think is because I play video games. That that was easy for me, but I got short term memory issues. So I leg from a night out and I had a test and I wasn't going to go. So I went straight from my night out to the test cent to the took a cab from the from where I was to the test center. How do you eating? Okay, because we're old now. We can't do that Shit. Oh yeah, eight. So most just clicking period someone just said I was that was the only bicycle. Just click periodically. He thought. This. Don't get too much your something's something that's a bit bit weird. Just click and then leave that two seconds in between gus crazy. The hazard us to stay easy for me, and I think it's because also used to play video games, like, even though I say I'm a feelthy casual, that you do need some kind of like reaction, that good reaction timing to be good at any game. So I think that's what helped me with that and like even like yeah, that's gave me help to you in other like life off for sure. Like like well, I said, like I used to read a lot, like when I was younger, I shuld speech issues. I couldn't talk, I shouldn't talk, and so I was about six years old, may seven years old, I just had like really like signfican speech issues. I think the speech and language stair past or my mom, like it's common for like bi lingual children. So I was on English and you're about at the same time. For some, like image children of immigrant parents, it just messing is up their ability to talk in any language when they're young. So, but I was I could understand people, I just couldn't speak. It was just like, I think it's just like a psychological like Blockli. I could understand people, I could read, I could write, I just couldn't speak. So for me, playing video games is just an extension of that. All the books I would read, the I could play pokemon plays older that. You have to read to play those games. So for me it was just an extension of that. And I think when I was younger I was like a thing I was really proud of, like I was kind of coasting and all the other subjects. was always really good in English language and literature because my reading the Age was always like advanced for my age because I was just constantly reading, because if I wasn't reading at school, as bringing back at home, and I wasn't doing that, was playing video game. So I was just always reading. So I think in that aspect it helped me a lot and like I could deem your ruined the whole thing, but I'm getting back into my reading for real, but I think it definitely as a kid, it just helped. It helped me in that sense. That's so cool. Yeah, for me, the reading, I love reading, like I would I was obsessed to reading a sort of I did to the point where in my library at school, I love the librarian there. She was like a mom to me at school and I read. I was in a seven and I read all the section I could read up to and then those the elder readers. I think your schooled. I was begging her to let me read it. I was begging, I was up, please let me take that. There's nothing else to read here. So she told me I couldn't take it out by I could read in the library. So every day after school and at lunch time I'll just go into the library and just read that. The adult section of these be held on the elder section of the library, which is Pretty Act. I can't like. That was me. I was reading something I should not have been reading but the library and didn't care. She's just so happy that someone there right just after that, someone who wants to like excited about readings that you could read whenever you want. You gonna find out about it eventually. You can read that, you can read that birth but yeah, but then the thing is it didn't really help with I still hated English as a subject. I didn't like the whole analyze it and a bit. I just liked reading the story for what it was and enjoying it and and I create the stories in my mind and let me escape, because I was a very I was on cloud...

Nin hundred and twenty four seven. I still lamb, but back then, as in, I was literally living on a different realm, like my mind was always in the clouds, and that the reading bit helped, like to the point where I would read a book halfway through. I wouldn't even finish it. I would just make up the story in my head the rest of the way. And I was just how I was when I was a kid. And then when I got into English and they told me to analyze it, why is this being read? I was like, Oh, you're ruining it for me, like stop, it ruined it and that was it. That's why I couldn't get up. I did not like English subject. That's why I fad mass, because it just didn't ruin reading for me. Yeah, and that's why I can't get into any of the books that was actually like given to us to read as a homework, and I was just like man, you're running it, and that's why I dropped it. As soon as I finished recesses. I never did anything English related after that. I was a Nah, no, I don't like it, but yeah, that was my that was my ink, that was my reading kind of journey when I was a kid. But, Chris, how has gaming affected you your other other than driving? How is it? It's made, the money is made the mad villain it so didn't get good once and you never forgot. Every game. I player must master is with me and gave me in. It's probably affected me so much I couldn't even tell him. portant. Yeah, exactly what aspects of my life it's molded for me? Some of the obvious ones. Do you know? Is it works? It's kind of like a mixture of the lifestyle. So gaming, reading about games, the type of t TV shows I watched, it molded as a result of that. I don't even know. I'm for example, here's a very, very good example. I was playing time spits. To write back. I say times. He as a kid and we spend money player this time and one of the one of the professions was pharmacist. So one of the one of the actual yeah, so one of the actual people you can use my play is called the pharmacist and I remember saying to my cousin, what's the pharmacist and we were like, Hmm, let's go find out what this is. The Google there and we found out what it was. Fast forward about what eight years, we both ended up being pharmacists, and that I'm but your promises now are you telling me ties is to a Korean advisors? Very, it's very, very impossible, because that's cute. Ever heard of the profession? Even that little thing. I remember, and I know this probably happened to you guys too, being young, especially in some of the the narrative heavy games, they say words during speech or during text bubbles that you might see over and over again and then learn the definitions and just because you see these things setting games, you just assume everyone else knows what this means. Yeah, and then you might say a word in passing and people legit. I remember, example. I'm like, it's just not a commonly using it on a mean. I mean it wasn't a video game, but it's related. It was a pokemon right. So there's a card impost oak. I don't know if you guys remember it. S POKEMON card, coots ringing a bell. Yeah, and I could. I did used what Imposti meant by looking at the card. If you see the card, the actual pokemon card, it's like a weird version of Professor Oak. So you kind of deduce. Okay, impostor means like fake, fake, yeah, and so I remember I was like scary, I don't like it. Sorry, like that. Yeah, that's POKEMON card. Why do you look like that? Yeah, I don't know, but you can use what impost the means, right. Yeah, and so I remember using the term impostor out with like some older family friends and they all look I must have been like yeah, yes,...

...three or something. You are seven years old, Christ. So are you? Where did you learn that? What do you do? How do you know that mean? I didn't even remember where and where I'd learned it from. It wasn't till I was older than I really like. Oh, you know, I probably just picked up from here. But there's so many, so many different I know there's a couple examples from super hus borrowers where they say certain things or the announces at certain things. Even the term melee exactly. Even I thought it is just a white people use the like. Huh, the eighteen century, fuck, Melly, come back on. God, it's so funny because people wouldn't even know what that meant. I wouldn't have known. If I did. Duced from what the game was, I knew. I know the initial game was and I sequels called to right. This must mean some sort of skirmish or some sort of fight as a result of that. Even the term skirmish. I'm I'm pretty sure I got skirmished from even either fire emblem or from Alex firely built my vocabulary say much because it's a proper like it's certin like a fantasy medieval sayings, and no one ever was tooking proper English. Right. He learns so much Rokad from that game. No COLLOCALISMS, they slang. Everything is Queens English, because I never I was what I was growing up, especially at primary school. I read, but I didn't read that much, but my vocabulary was very good and I remember one of my teachers being really confused. That's the way I knew these words and it was mostly just from a mixture of playing video games and watching TV. And I just try to pick him up and I'll figure out. All right, they use the word like this. I'm not thinking about as logically as that, but that's what's going through my mind. This word has been used here. I heard this use here before, so it must mean this. Sometimes I'll say the word and I might use it in a wrong context, but then I'd realize I use it wrong context and start using it correctly going forward. Yeah, yeah, other than that, I'd say game and is, like most of us influenced. Star music tastes of hundred percent. That's happened. That, like I'll listen to video game music in the gym or the sight for the majority of the time. And even the type of type of rap I listened to. The Jazz. I've listened to jazz for sure. Yeah, astrum music a hundred percent. Got Into it from from Zelda, final fantasy. Yeah, day, even Mariam our galaxy had like beautiful orchestral soundtrack. Yeah, yeah, I like Jazz. I got love like because, like, I think come from that kind of background, like because we were into jazz. They certain circles they move in or they have like a classical music that ground, like they or they play instruments themselves. I have any of that. Like first time I had jazz music my still in the video game, like even before, not not even like in a movie or anything, because, like, for me mind the sign of Jazz. Before I had things like music by like Maguro. He does the scores. Four percent of games to me jazz or something just like it's not for people from my social class. You know, some people were like middle class, they went to eat in the whatever. Of people can play instruments, but like, I think actually finding out afterwards that, oh, yeah, this is also jazz, but then there's like subgenres of jazz as well as ass a jazz. Like need to beust on those people, like you'll find out the anime like I never found it out. Feel like the ways people found out about music is either from animal or for video games. So I think, yeah, I think that's one good thing about game and becoming more mainstream. Like people recognize it as an art form, or some people do, but at the very eve of the people don't. You can at least have that conversation. But I think like twenty years twenty years ago, you could be open, that discussion will be dismiss but now you can talk about it like other Games aren't. And I feel like, especially in growing up in there ere we grew up in, I mean most of us weren't just listening to orchestra music. It's destiny's child in earlier and introduced us to a brand new avenue and it got to a point where a lot of us are thinking why. I remember, I remember one time thinking why I like this stuff. And this isn't Jay Z it's not pure we so likes, but it's not a sure this is some guy who on the violin, who I can't pronounce his name, playing music that I don't know what it's...

...called and I just know what level it was used in. This is when. This is when Gone Blah. This is the intet music to final of fancy three. This is Zora's domain. JEM mean, this is a and the only way we describe this is that we just say it slaps. And if an actual, if an actual person that that music is their profession, was to hear the way we describe music of like guys are in greats like. It depends, though. It depends that I think it. I think it doesn't matter how you describe the music you listen to. If you enjoy it, enjoy it, but the elitist will hate us. So guy should check out. This is jazz musician. She's one of your words, I believe. I'm cassie. Can know she. She's British and she's like a jazz musician. I forgot what her instrument is, but she actually says that Vigi game music is one of her main inspirations and she's like a problem classically trained musician. Also instrument plays a saxophone. She's like, she's a classically trained she's a jazz musician and she sites with you games as like one of the main inspirations. Yes, she went. What did she go to? Yeah, her group was nominated for the Mercury Prize in two thousand and nineteen. She studied out trinity, the Band Conservative music. Can dance like she's she's legit. And she said, yeah, Video Games are one of the main sources of inspiration because it was music. So I think for sure, like even if, even though we're using layman's terms, like what's the level beneath Layman's dones? That's how we just get I think that soon he's like like on, he's like an actual musician. I think, I think it would make them happy, just like at least you in at least you're getting into it. Like somehow it doesn't how? Yeah, sure, you have a genuine love for the for Jazz, even if I think that's a jazz three. It doesn't matter, of like. You know, what so interesting about that is the fact that, yeah, fair enough, a musician might listen to a song from fun fantasy seven and they can name all the instruments, they can, you know, play it by own. They can do all of this, but they won't necessarily understand why the music sounds like this. We can relate the song to the situation in the video game. Yeah, we. I started Cassyn issue because she's actually like a Gamer as well. Yeah, yeah, like, wait, hang, but I think, yeah, it's been so yeah, people who just simply listen to this kind of music, and not necessarily video game music, they might not understand the nuances. They might not understand. Okay, madness play. They don't understand why this is a sad song, because a lot of the music and Video Games is written for specific scenarios or specific stage. Is the the what's the Mario under the star on the ground level in a very sisy four underground, on the ground, underwater, under what? Yeah, the one with the ear in the boat. Yeah, the bay, something, Bay. So, yeah, that one. So even the music and that you can tell it's really mellow. It's very aquatic. They may be able to try and determine some small aspects of it. We understand why the music is being created and under saying exactly why it sounds away it does. Yeah, especially like this is the final about all the game, like you know what the emotions attached to that? Yes, but it could be like, objectively, a good piece of music. But when you play the game, you know what that song does. Like you go on, you chie some one who doesn't play the game figure why is this piece of music got twelve million views? But because everyone in the commentation. Oh my God, I died to all times. If why I beat him. I remember playing this in my yeah, and it's just, yeah, it's just the emotions attached to it. For sure. That as an actual music. We look at, we look after the music. We like video games. Yeah, look, look how long the melodies in the street fighter to game have been going on for. It's a true like Gall Stein was mean to death, but objectively that's a good piece of musick. Yeah, and it's still the same song today. They all have the same that's how timeless these songs were. M Chinlie still has the same theme, and Bison, they all do, all the ones from the street fire to see and they will have the same theme in the next one, this updated. They might be elements to the music now because of technology, but they will fundamentally sound exact same. They have the same melodies. So when I was playing the final boss battle Againstcannon, death of the world, I was just thinking like, when you hit the main theme, play with the Melody for the main theme coming, yeah, the piece of music, and just tink back to playing the very first I those old under their so I was like look, how, where are you going? Like, it's the same melody, but just look how much they've just been built on each generation of games. I think that's really go I saw a three actually saying how they love when the final boss team is the same as a remix version of the initial same of the game. Yeah, yeah, that's such a good touch. It just made it seem like we've just come...

...back to the beginning, especially if, yeah, it's just even the sky was sort of thing. That means only another buy backwards. Absolutely, if you if you go on Youtube and ty can scarees sorting backwards probably got like level loads of use, millions and millions of views just listening to the same back yeah, what? Yeah, it's just so good, but because it's just like it's like it's like we know you didn't, it doesn't give a shit. Right URP, you watter. I use the last one that cared, but he look like details, like maybe they care. It's a corporation, but they memories sky. It's told the backwards. It's probably it's crazy. Oh, it's a slightly different point. But talk about how we like the get the music. Need something to us because we pull the Games. Like you listen to the ire to die rap. It wrote Iritid a dorm wrap from persona three. It's like this. This this music. It sounds like maybe a Japanese person who's never had a conversation with a need of English by English speaker, so just king came up of their own idea of what English sounds like. That's what the rap that's what the rap sounds like for this. But it's slaps so hard and has no right to you because it's just nonsense. was like that. It's sluts. I don't know anything. Even know. I just point where it's because I love to send a percent of three as a game off. It's just like, subjectively, this is a good piece of music, so I think that kind of that kind of like sums up that kind of argument, like, Oh, yeah, the emotions really carry the song. But yeah, listen to the ire told. I don't rap over kkake slide. His kick take side objectively, is very good as usition of our generation's very that's a different podcast episode. Like for people to mix. People have remix crikkake a s I the songs with ice cu this dog, with what's that one from? That's on the song, with Kimbra? Yeah, just somebody that I used to know. They makes it with that guy. Yeah, this is is. He's a genius. I the do you design against either? But yeah, we could probably have like a whole nother episode about the Games and music how he ended up here. But yeah, even I we even leave the second. The last of these was the fuck crisis. He's pay is by. Are you just asking, Chris? Are you gonna buy it? Probably making to take out the packaging and play it. Ohill ran, okay, but yeah, Oh my God. So mixed the fresh princes team with the ware to Di Dom wrap. This is what I mean about Er Games music guys. There's something about them that's just like they standard test of time. You called Games. But yeah, it's a fun vibes episode. Yeah, this has been a great fries episode. I love how Peopore. Back when we first met I'd be like, Oh, yeah, the topic is alway. First we started their podcast. Oh Yeah, this topic is gaming. Iby was like peace out, y'all, enjoy. But now, like a put the stat this was my heart. Guys talking about gaming as children. Like I'm just Oh, wish, because my dad boss every type of fun. So all I would be had the PSFON the PST PSTRO. We had game boys, we had nintendo Ds, we had xbox, we had we we had all of it. We just didn't play it. Well, I didn't. My little brotherm might have played it a few times, but it was if it wasn't fee for he wasn't playing it. Just wish I could go back to myself as a child. If you like, Bitch play, I'll play. Allergy played. You know, remember those are those Shitty two hundred and fifty five and one brick handhelds. You must have seen them. They had like sixty five different versions of Tetris, all these weird cuboid related games. Hung Hu device is called. Do you know actually that kind of reminds you of the I ne've actually earned any es, but I think I was in a I was it's shopping center in my area. There's not even the same anymore. I was in my sis still been in primary school. I went on my uncle and he is kind of like very influence on Games, or him and my cousin really like my old uncle was a family friend. But it was like the o plug and play controllers were and in the control they had like a hundred games on it. Yeah, it was actually a hundred games because when you go through the pages it's just like a different level of Super Myers or different games as a scam. But back then about it. I those twenty pounds, which I didn't. I just for inflation how how much that was. Probably got robbed, but that's how I played Super Mare for the best time. That the original. My brothers the best time as I paid the first letting MOZOUDA. It's our paid bubble bubble was that one gallagher. That's how I played that game through the like plug and play controller. So it's like afters that I actually paid a career time first and then I paid the first lettons older afterwards. Yeah, yeah, remember everything outcological order, like...

...one of my favorite games, a thinite game of all time, is earth bound. I paid mother three first emulated on my phone when I was a second year score. Then I paid mother tea right before I met off to Uni and actually has still have played a fan zero in sonic, Sony Ericson Emily. Pick my emerald as well. I'm Crena Tugger, but I played maybe like a few minutes of Crenatug as a kid. I paid properly during a levels, but down my friend as well. He's that fishing on my awful. I wish you boy now sweat all for God. That's how I played the ASERTAINY trilogy first time. Yeah, I might buy switch. It's on my phone, actually, some one I phone. You can play an on your phone. You can play a steny your phone. You pay great tricks pays. Trick has been on my less for years. You could play gay stripping your friend down my Corna suggar right now. That's the question. Well, like playing games with fun, you could just literally being bad and just that's why my switch has been their lifeline. My pass for is so dusty. There's also Anne. It wasn't even a piece. For Ten pounds I'll have the mobile games. Having a bubble the message, Eric, I'm looking for I can buy the I play on my buy it for my console, but my friend ten powerful phone games. Taking a Michael it. Could you know? I mean I hope I'm that which one day, but the principle of it risk, we let you. But yeah, this has been a fantastic episode. Guys really loves hearing about your childhood like gaming stories. It was like nerdy childhood stuff, like doesn't nuts, like, Huh, you guys don't louds. Sorry, it is. I love that you're spending time in a zoo call with nerds. Yeah, you could be do something else on the Sunday. You're talking to her. A great episode. Let us know, like, let us know if you've meete to this this one episode. First of all, thank you, but I'll sue. Let us day. I was until our last during the comments and Youtube. If you're watching on Youtube, what is your definition of gaming? Would you consider candy question and these like strictly Mobile Games as gaming? Gee, would you consider like a digital version of monopoly or chess is gaming or not? And your reasons why just if not the conversation. I think we'll have like kind of similar opinions on this, but still like distinct opinions, so be nice to know what other people think. Well for his academia and everything. We're out on tick tock for us and take took at number four, is academia. Will see you next week another episode. You'll catch you on twitch during the week and yeah, I see you next time.

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